political myths

SmokeyDan

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over where?

where has obama put boots on the ground, and how many?
You and I both know he has special forces deployed in Iraq. You admitted it.

He said he was sending advisors for their military.

We both know they're there.

Don't play dumb.
 

Rob Roy

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The myth of politics is that if enough people vote for something inherently wrong, the majority vote can magically make it right.
 

UncleBuck

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You responded to a quote someone provided from Obama's reference to our campaign against ISIS.

You don't want to play this game dipshit.

There are plenty of sources talking about combat pay for our guys over there.
when did harrekin, who i was responding to, mention ISIS?

you are chock full of shit, bignbushy.
 

desert dude

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too stupid to understand what a feedback cycle is, are ya?

CO2 and temperature go hand in hand. when one goes up, so does the other.

so when CO2 levels rise, it causes temperatures to rise, which further causes CO2 levels to rise.

i understand that you are insufferably stupid and have called the conclusion of 34 national science academies a "hoax" without any evidence or proof whatsoever, but the rest of us are not as dumb and hyper-partisan as you.

please refrain from dumbing down this board further. thank you.
Except that here, in the real world, that hasn't happened. CO2 levels have risen and temperature has stalled for at least 17 years. Until the hypothesis explains that, and the computer models are fixed to reflect a better understanding of what is really happening and produce accurate predictions, skepticism is in order.

The earth is more complicated than an Erlenmeyer flask.
 

overgrowem

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Except that here, in the real world, that hasn't happened. CO2 levels have risen and temperature has stalled for at least 17 years. Until the hypothesis explains that, and the computer models are fixed to reflect a better understanding of what is really happening and produce accurate predictions, skepticism is in order.

The earth is more complicated than an Erlenmeyer flask.
Don't think temps have stalled. believe this is hottest summer on record. Would like to see a documented source on stalled temps.
 

SmokeyDan

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when did harrekin, who i was responding to, mention ISIS?

you are chock full of shit, bignbushy.
The only relevant place where any controversy exists about boots on the ground is in Syria and Iraq with respect to ISIS.

You're the stupid one for saying obama kept his no boots promise by only sending spec forces andadvisors.
 

SmokeyDan

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Locally, I know this summer that just ended was not all that hot. I mean, we had some hot days, it's summer. I don't recall anything over the mid 90s.

Used to break 100 frequently.
 

Padawanbater2

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Don't think temps have stalled. believe this is hottest summer on record. Would like to see a documented source on stalled temps.
You're right, DD is being purposefully dishonest. 2000-2010 was the hottest decade on record, with '09 being the hottest year recorded since measurements began

Source;


http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/climatechange/last-decade-confirmed-as-the-w/14913958
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/jan/HQ_10-017_Warmest_temps.html
 

UncleBuck

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Locally, I know this summer that just ended was not all that hot. I mean, we had some hot days, it's summer. I don't recall anything over the mid 90s.

Used to break 100 frequently.
nice personal anecdote.

there is life outside of knoxville, tn, bignbushy. one day you'll discover it.
 

desert dude

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That you progs are unaware of the warming hiatus, and the discrepancy between the predicted corrolation between increased CO2 and global warming that has not panned out does not reflect poorly upon me.

The internet has been awash in this info for years. You are all free to practice your religion, however, this is America.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/09/130925-global-warming-pause-climate-change-science-ipcc/

Although climate models have been predicting increasing average global temperatures over the next century or so, the past decade has not shown as much warming as most scientists had expected. The year 2012 was no warmer than 2002. The IPCC draft report acknowledges a "global warming hiatus," according to media reports.


http://business.financialpost.com/2014/06/16/the-global-warming-hiatus/

While the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) still uses the iconic word “unequivocal” to describe warming of the climate system over the past century, a new word has slipped into its lexicon: the “hiatus.” They have begun referring, with a bit of hesitant throat-clearing, to “the warming hiatus since 1998.”

Both satellites and surface records show that sometime around 2000, temperature data ceased its upward path and leveled off. Over the past 100 years there is a statistically significant upward trend in the data amounting to about 0.7 oC per century. If one looks only at the past 15 years though, there is no trend.

It will by 2017 be impossible to reconcile climate models with reality

A leveling-off period is not, on its own, the least bit remarkable. What makes it remarkable is that it coincides with 20 years of rapidly rising atmospheric greenhouse gas levels. Since 1990, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have risen 13%, from 354 parts per million (ppm) to just under 400 ppm. According to the IPCC, estimated “radiative forcing” of greenhouse gases (the term it uses to describe the expected heating effect) increased by 43% after 2005. Climate models all predicted that this should have led to warming of the lower troposphere and surface. Instead, temperatures flatlined and even started declining. This is the important point about the pause in warming. Indeed, the word that ought to have entered the IPCC lexicon is not “hiatus” but “discrepancy.”
 

SmokeyDan

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nice personal anecdote.

there is life outside of knoxville, tn, bignbushy. one day you'll discover it.
You don't think I was trying to pass that off as a global measure do you?

Considering I started off my sentence with "locally. "
 
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