Police Brutality At Cereal City Compassion Club

CountGlochula said:

i really feel sorry for your condition and that's awesome that you have found the right strain to help control your condition, and i do believe that people with condition's such as yours deserve's a good price.but i do not believe it should only be used for medicinal.over 22 million american's smoke weed.

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I think it should be legalized too. My concern is that voting in Medical mj is a step in a positive direction, and that people abusing the intent of the medical law are simply jeopardizing the positive step we've been given.

Medical laws and "legalized" are two different things. There have always been illegal growers seeking profit..always will be. It just irks me that they try to use medical laws to justify what they do.

Responsible and respectful use of the medical law would help the legalize cause. Had dispensaries opened in clean store fronts, no marijuana leaves for a sign, respectable looking people running the operation, dispensing mj that's been tested and labeled for chemical composition, sorted by type of condition the different strains are usable for..etc,etc, etc....The state authorities. and feds would be much more likely to think " wow, this is actually a reasonable attempt to be legit".

Had "care givers" used reasonable plant counts (not maximum) and sought reasonable profits from their efforts, not maximum cash flow...the State might be far less worried about cracking down.

I have no problem if you wish to grow illegally (Hell, I did, starting in the 60's) just don't claim the efforts are for "medicinal" reasons. I also don't care if some one gets a card for less than "chronic and debilitating" conditions...just be responsible in your use, and don't flaunt it.

My rant is directed at people posting in the "medical" forums..with less than medical intentions.
Post in General, Advanced Growing, organics...lots of places. But don't blur medicinal with recreational use...

no they won't are you kidding me?NEW'S FLASH MARIJUANA HAS BEEN IN THE HAND'S OF MAN FOR THOUSAND'S OF YEAR'S. they have known that it is not harmful, they do not care it's all about regulation.they make way more money scaring tax payer's into forking over billions of dollars into feeding "the justice system" than they would see from taxation of a plant that's almost impossible to control.IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTROL.

every report that has been done on marijuana which there has been A LOT besides one (the heath tulane study) has said that in it's natural form it's the safest medecine or recreational drug available to man and do they care fuck no.

stumpjumper said:

As do I Bob. I don't know how old you are but I've been a connoisseur for over 20 years. I know the difference between swag and high end and I wouldn't waste my time buying or growing swag. Nobody ever complains about what I have to smoke either.

Your "high end sativa" is a indica dominant phenotype of a fucking hybrid. Who do you think you're bullshitting? lol

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20 years? You're a young one..

I don't actually grow Jack Herer (which is far more sativa dominate than you think) i used it as an example of a strain who's name most people would recognize. It has won ton of awards, it is tricky to grow to award winning standards, and like any true connoisseur grow..dosen't get sampled by many people when grown to top quality. Getting high end genetic seed, and growing that seed to maximum potential..are far different things. That's the real point. And that doesn't happen under average light average care conditions.


The strain I actually grow is a land race sativa. The original seeds acme from Thai sticks in the 60's....It's been "clone only" for years now, passing back and forth between a few old time growers.. It's long lanky, low yielding (unless ya veg it up a year) and the real deal. Takes 12 weeks to flower too..(you did see I mentioned earlier that they get 4 weeks of 13/11 before heading to my "over lit" flower room)
If you saw the bud you'd probably laugh too. Hardly any calyx swelling,(original seeds were TINY, and the false seed pods follow suit) long wispy hairy looking things. No big "nuggets' either..buds don't run together much. You'd call them fluffy..or "lacking density".

Some one that knows what they are looking at would say 'my,my,my..what do we have here"...

So add wispy and no density to your list of criticisms please...Because that all you wish to see...

why is there so much bashing and hatin here,we green lover's are peaceful so why don't we take a hit of our fine med's and veg.

so much jealousy,jealous of yield's,equipment,profit's and everything else inbetween.next thing were gonna be postin pics of our wives titties.

CountGlochula said:

so much jealousy,jealous of yield's,equipment,profit's and everything else inbetween.next thing were gonna be postin pics of ours wives titties.

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Got rid of the wife...best decision I ever made. Made growing look cheap..and worth every penny..

nice,i choked on my bong.

i got a head rush laughing.

Bob have you never smoked a real sativa? Jack herer is a bastard strain, a real 'pure' sat lifts you to a different place. Try spending time with a Thai hill tribe, smoke their pure unadulterated landrace and you will fucking need their opium to bring you down. Thats no shit. Jack's a good smoke, however it's nowere a real sat.

puffntuff said:

Bob have you never smoked a real sativa? Jack herer is a bastard strain, a real 'pure' sat lifts you to a different place. Try spending time with a Thai hill tribe, smoke their pure unadulterated landrace and you will fucking need their opium to bring you down. Thats no shit. Jack's a good smoke, however it's nowere a real sat.

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I understand that..look back a few posts. I used jack as an example simply because people recognize the name, and know it's won awards. I grow a Thai strain...

CountGlochula said:

so much jealousy,jealous of yield's,equipment,profit's and everything else inbetween.next thing were gonna be postin pics of our wives titties.

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Count.. I am not jealous. Far from it. I was originally trying to help Bob reduce his cost and yield more than 2oz a plant. Sorry Bob I thought you said that you were trying to isolate the #4 JH.. I see now you used it as an example. I'm just going to go back to my swag and I will not offer help to anyone anymore. I guess everyone has it all figured out.

I have nothing to be jealous about. I have all I need/want well I suppose there's always more toys to get but I'm not anxious over anything.

As far as my wife's titties, she's not shy...

Police Brutality At Cereal City Compassion Club

police are just some indivualds with distributional brains following orders for s paycheck.
dont get me wrong there is stupidity in the world. the point its that this percentage of stupidly don't have to do this.

I suppose even a place with such a delicious and sacred name as CEREAL CITY isn't safe from terrorist government activity. Why does RIU keep deleting my posts?

stumpjumper said:

Count.. I am not jealous. Far from it. I was originally trying to help Bob reduce his cost and yield more than 2oz a plant. Sorry Bob I thought you said that you were trying to isolate the #4 JH.. I see now you used it as an example. I'm just going to go back to my swag and I will not offer help to anyone anymore. I guess everyone has it all figured out.

I have nothing to be jealous about. I have all I need/want well I suppose there's always more toys to get but I'm not anxious over anything.

As far as my wife's titties, she's not shy...

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LMFAO my wife said the same thing

ChronicObsession said:

I suppose even a place with such a delicious and sacred name as CEREAL CITY isn't safe from terrorist government activity. Why does RIU keep deleting my posts?

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I haven't deleted any of your posts. I can assure you that we do not delete posts without a good reason though. However it is common courtesy for a mod to PM someone if they do delete someones post giving then an explanation unless it is just blatant spam.

hi mod sj. I checked back and you are right. The ONE thing that got deleted was my post on a thread called "a thread for people that like cats"or something. Maybe that whole thread got deleted. I like RIU a lot though, maybe it was the poster's fault of that thread that got the whole thing deleted. Peace

stumpjumper said:

I haven't deleted any of your posts. I can assure you that we do not delete posts without a good reason though. However it is common courtesy for a mod to PM someone if they do delete someones post giving then an explanation unless it is just blatant spam.

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2000w is overkill on 6 plants unless your growing trees. If your growing trees with vert bulbs your getting way more than 2oz a plant. But anyways that's not important. To all growers legal or not fly under the radar making waves gets your boat sunk.

puffntuff said:

2000w is overkill on 6 plants unless your growing trees. If your growing trees with vert bulbs your getting way more than 2oz a plant. But anyways that's not important. To all growers legal or not fly under the radar making waves gets your boat sunk.

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2000 watts includes veg room. Flower is 1800 watts.

The number of Plants is irrelevant to lighting wattage. Area covered is the key. My area "under the lights" is 24 sq ft. 1800 watts is 75 watts per sq ft. On the high side, if it were all HPS.

I run 2, 600 watt hps, I also run 6, 100 watt leds. The Leds are added for blue spectrum. (they have 50% red, but the blue is the key) Hps is very weak in blue spectrum. Blue spectrum is needed for leaf development. (that's why most people use blue spectrum in veg) As flowering gets going strong, Have you noticed the increase in sugar leaf production? The blue spectrum aids in the development of these sugar leaves. This is important, as later in flowering, as the fan leaves fade, the sugar leaves take over much of the photosynthesis. The fan leaves have now become the gas tank..and the sugar leaves the engine.

This is important in allowing the plant to have enough photosynthesis power towards the end of flowering to drive the production of terpines, flavanoids and oils. These elements are what maximize the finished products flavor, smell and taste.

Uvb lighting (I have 156 watts) have no photosynthetic value, however they encourage the plant to develop a heavier trichlome production. Thrichlomes are the source of thc/thcv. The main difference in true sativa's is that they are equitorial strains, and have much higher uvb in their natural growing environment. To deprive a sativa of added uvb, is simply wasting genetic potential.

Lastly, added light helps the plant ripen more evenly. This is important in a true sativa. The "amber trichlome" test for ripeness is really directed for Indicas. Ambering of trichlomes is caused by thc degrading into cbd. Cbd causes the "couch lock, or "stoned" effect in cannabis. Just the opposite of what you are looking for in a sativa. Sativa's should be harvested "partly cloudy"..not ambering at all.

So yes..you could get a Sativa to flower under much less light..and you'd get a decent product....but you'd be far short of maximum potential.

Hope the science helps explain my madness..

I understand hps. Why not got with cmh? You'll get both spectrums.