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ChesusRice

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Johnny Retro said:
Is raising the debt ceiling unpatriotic??
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It usually is after the 6th or 7th time you ask for it Like George Bush did


"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a Sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. ...Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and Grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."
SENATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, MARCH 2006
 
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ChesusRice

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Johnny Retro said:
Obama told me it was unpatriotic..so I voted for him. Then he went behind my back and did it. :( And I thought this thread was about Obama, not bush?

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"The problem is that the way Bush has done it in the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion from the first 42 presidents. No. 43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome. So we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back. $30,000 for every man woman and child. That's irresponsible, that's unpatriotic," he said.

That was the 6th time Bush asked for a debt celing increase
 
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Johnny Retro said:
Obama told me it was unpatriotic..so I voted for him. Then he went behind my back and did it. :( And I thought this thread was about Obama, not bush?

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are you sure he didn't have some kind of objection to putting two unnecessary wars of choice on the national credit card?
 
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ChesusRice

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Johnny Retro said:
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Johnny Retro said:
Obama told me it was unpatriotic..so I voted for him. Then he went behind my back and did it. :( And I thought this thread was about Obama, not bush?

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"The problem is that the way Bush has done it in the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion from the first 42 presidents. No. 43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome. So we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back. $30,000 for every man woman and child. That's irresponsible, that's unpatriotic," he said.

That was the 6th time Bush asked for a debt celing increase
 
Johnny Retro

Johnny Retro

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ChesusRice said:
"The problem is that the way Bush has done it in the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion from the first 42 presidents. No. 43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome. So we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back. $30,000 for every man woman and child. That's irresponsible, that's unpatriotic," he said.

That was the 6th time Bush asked for a debt celing increase
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UncleBuck

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have i mentioned yet that obama has lowered the deficit?

in other words, no matter how bad that number under his name is, it would have been even worse if we put one of the "fiscally conservative" (LOL!) republicans in there.

to reiterate, obama has lowered the deficit.
 
canndo

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ChesusRice said:
Tax evasion
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Um.... ok, was the place shut down due to tax evasion? How about harborside? Tax evasion as well? It paid all of it's local taxes. I'll grant you G3 was tax evasion but there were other considerations as well. I can't see why the feds would take it upon themselves to enforce local law when they do not do such things in other situations, just pot.


Wait just a minute. I can't call it tax evasion if a normaly operating business is forbidden to deduct standard business expenses and then called to task when they are not allowed to operate like any other business.

When the IRS targets a single industry and then gets heavy on the participants when they try to operate in the same fashion as every other business - there isn't much difference between that and a standard drug bust. Beyond even that, since when has the DEA become the enforcement arm of the IRS?
 
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canndo

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Johnny Retro said:
Is raising the debt ceiling unpatriotic??
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Is paying the bills you have racked up patriotic? At the very least it is responsible. Don't want to raise the debt ceiling? don't spend the money in the first place. You don't get to be a Republican, buy everything you want and then when the bill comes due stand on principle and say you aren't going to pay.
 
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