Plant Moisture Stress - Symptoms and Solutions

fat geezy

Member
Starting my second grow. My first grow was in coco soil with BC Nutrients. Turned out to be a pain. BC nutrients have to much K which reacts with coco soil and blocks nitrogen from getting to plants.
On my second grow I will try eb and flow system with a rock-wool media. After my first grow I am still confused what nutrient to use. Schedule of feeding of nutrients is pretty important too. so I was wondering if you guys can post which nutrients worked best for you, and your schedule of feeding, for example when I should start feeding nuts. and at what dosage. Please be as detailed as possible.
Appreciate any help
 

the wiz

Member
Good afternoon. I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend. As mentioned in the title, I am a noob. A noob to growing. And a noob to the forum. So I must apologize ahead of time if I am posting in the wrong thread.

I have witnessed other grows. And I have poked around these forums a bit. I started my grow roughly two weeks ago this Sunday, tomorrow, 1/30/11.

These are autoflowers, Il Divo to be exact by Delicious Seeds. Oh, there is one Low Girl in the mix.

I germ'd the seeds in cotton pads, within 48 hours all were popped. From there I moved them into dixies and put them under a UFO LED light for a 24 hour cycle until they popped through. Once they sprouted through the soil i left them under the UFO 24/day for roughly a week. Once I started to notice they had stopped growing, I prepared on gallon buckets for transplanting.

When I removed the seedlings from the dixies I noticed that the roots had made their way to the bottom of the cup, filling the circumference of the bottom of the cup. **First worry: Did I wait too long to transplant, and is going from dixie to 1 gal too big of a leap?

Since being transplanted, I've had the ladies on a 18/6 cycle under a 400W HPS (My MH died on me :( **Should I put the MH back in once I replace it?) And I would say the light is now 2ft above the plants, as of yesterday. I had it much closer (1ft. away), but I was afraid I was forcing too much light on them.

So this is where I am stumped. I am using 2 soil mixes. One is unknown. The other is by Aurora. It is their ROOTS brand, and the type is Greenfields: Coars Peat, Coco Fiber, Compost, Perlite, Pumice, Worm Castings...and a whole bunch of different meals. Im assuming the 'meals' are for extended food release??? The Greefields felt very light and airy. The 'unknown' was equally as light, though did feel more dense.

So the plants are transplanted. And I give them some H20, simple distilled H20 brought to the same temp. as the atmosphere that the plants are in. The 3 buckets of the 'unknown' I notice absorb all of the water. No drainage at all. The Greenfields, absorbed what was needed, and the excess drained off.

Since the transplant, the 3 buckets of Greenfields have shown growth. The 3 buckets of the 'unkown' show, if any, very very little growth. And it has been a few days. This is were I get worried. Obviously the unknown is not working well, but I do not know why. And I understand that it will hard to determine, given that I don't know it's mixture. (btw, a friend who works at a local greenhouse mixed this for me).

**The plants leaves are curling up a bit. Is it too much H20. Or is it too much light? If I transplant the plants out of the unknown, and into Greenfields....do you think I'll be safe. Or should I let this experiment run it's course?

To all that read through this, thank you for your time. It is, without a doubt, greatly appreciated. And if I did post in the wrong thread, please notify myself and move it accordingly. I am not sure if I am dealing with soil issues, H20 issues, or both. I have attached photos. They are of pre-transpant, and post-transplant (today).

If any clarification needs to be made, just let me know. I will give all the info and pics that I can in order to ensure the best achievable grow. Thank you again. Best of luck to all of you dedicating your time to these wonderful plants.

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The Wiz
 

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the wiz

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pictures 4,6, &7 (if viewing from left to right) are the plants I am worried about mostly. They are in the 'unkown' soil. Though picture 5 is in Greenfields, though it is growning, it is curling??? And picture 9, does anyone feel that this has mutated? The plant in picture 9 started with 3 leaves. Is this common? Again, these are all auto-flowers. Picture 4 is Low Girl, the rest are Il Divo.
 

Flicker

Member
What u think of these upwards curled tip of leafs? Yhey are 7-8 days old,one auto ak47xlr2 and auto blueberry,temp are 25 degree ceslsius and 55% humidity. Transplanted yesterday into dry soil and just added little for 45min ago,looks to me the leafs dry out to quick?rdj.jpgsdtg.jpgdfkg.jpgzdfh.jpgdgb.jpgcfyl.jpg
 

lbezphil2005

Well-Known Member
Hey wiz, it could be ph in the soil is off, probably need to check your ph on the unknown soil, make sure it's 6.2 to 6.5, very important!!
 

gelv

Member
my plants have purple stems and there verry young seeds runing the lights 24 hours 600w hps and 250w mh but day time temps 70f and as the night comes it was 48.9f can some one help
 

Alganj

Active Member
gelv,

I had the same issue and I put the 15$ el cheapo heater in there and bought this thermostat
http://cgi.ebay.com/Suncourt-DS100-DuctStat-Plug-In-Thermostat_W0QQitemZ380304603307QQcategoryZ42911QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D230565929242%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6741788237476254304

That solved all my problems and it only cost about 40$ total.

I think they have heaters that have a thermostat build into them for around 40$ as well. I just liked the thermostat I posted because I knew I could use it later for my exhaust fans also.

Alganj
 

lbezphil2005

Well-Known Member
gelv,

I had the same issue and I put the 15$ el cheapo heater in there and bought this thermostat
http://cgi.ebay.com/Suncourt-DS100-DuctStat-Plug-In-Thermostat_W0QQitemZ380304603307QQcategoryZ42911QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D230565929242%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6741788237476254304

That solved all my problems and it only cost about 40$ total.

I think they have heaters that have a thermostat build into them for around 40$ as well. I just liked the thermostat I posted because I knew I could use it later for my exhaust fans also.

Alganj
Be careful how big a heater you plug into that thermostat - has a 5 amp limitation, so stay away from anything over say, 500 watts.
 

Alganj

Active Member
Good point Lbez

Alot of heaters are more than 5 amps I believe.

With that said, I would just get a heater with a thermostat build into it.

Once winter is over, you might not need as much heat
 

fairladyz

Member
Do you guys know what this girl is going through? a fan leaf on top is burnt from the middle out
and alot of the leaves are looking old and wrinkly.. this is a blue dream strain. the leaves look like its shrivelingor somesort`View attachment 1419003
alot of the leaves are looking bumpy, and not flat.
my other rom also has spots of yellow..
 

kidgraphix

Active Member
Well its time to ask some questions UB i have three plant going 2 G-13 Blueberry Gum and 1 Tangerine Dream from Barney's Farm i seem to have about a 45-50% success rate with seed germination using the old fashioned just plant it in the ground (actually i use a peat pellet in a jiffy pot filled in with miracle gro nutrient added soil) method not into soaking seeds which brings up question 1 how can i improve my germination success rate? and the next question is to do mainly with my 1 BBG that i decided to use for learning and experimentation in the area of topping and LST. as you can see from the pics i will post i am not doing very well other than i havent killed her yet!!!? so if you can take a peek at my journal (link attached to signature) and offer some welcome pointers and advice Thanks in advance greatly appreciated. KID
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Pippy108

Active Member
I wouldn't even glance at the food/growing medium section when I shopped for my light. Lot's of pretty labels with kitschy names. I'm indoors for the first time with 2 different strains, and learned quick that my sativa dominant wasn't on the same program as the indica, but not quick enough. I made 2 rookie mistakes, but knew from being a regl'r flower/shrub gardener that I'd need N throughout. You've gotta learn how to grow something before you invest. Grow a tomato plant. Get outside this summer and make it a point to grow a tomato plant in a pot. Learn the basics AND eat homegrown tomatoes.
My question for UB is about tomato blight. I want to plant (1) in a spot outdoors this spring where I grew tomato 2 years ago, which was hit with that nasty blight 2 summers ago here in the east. I know it's an airbourne disease, but is it lurking in my soil? I can't find any info related to this so I figure I'd pose it to you. Wrong thread, I know.
 

TahoeGrown

Member
ub hey i was checkin out your link and your plants rate of growth blew my mind. my plants are three weeks old from seeds now and they look slightly smaller then your seedlings at week two how do you get them to grow so fast? what is your lighting set up? what nute set up are do you go wiith?I have been looking for someone who really has there stuff dialed in on here to get general advice growing advice from. your whole grow looks more progressive and productive then any other garden ive seen on here or any indoor grow i have seen myself. what are your secrets to keeping your plants so healthy and robust. if you would like to help kinda mentor me through my second grow it would be much appreciated. Any advice that helps you grow such amazing plants i could use.
thank you
TG
 

arsen451

Active Member
Hey guys, wondering if anyone can help me understand whats going on with my plants. Plants have always been dark in color but recently have been coming out light lime green and drooping, mostly on the newer leaves. Ive got one mother plant and a few 2 week old plants that are all showing the same symptoms. Using Atami B'cuzz coco mixed with perlite, R/O water, nutes are 200 ppm Cal/Mag, Canna coco A and B, Cannazyme, and Super Thrive. Total ppm 600-700, PH 5.8. Watering til a good amount drains every 2 days. Under 1000w MH about 2 ft. above plants. Room Temp 70-80 degrees, Humidity 40-60%. Here are some pics.

 
Hey everyone, im finding it really difficult to diagnose what is wrong with my little girls the leaves are curling, and im not sure if it is because of lack of moisture of overwatering or heat or light. im sooo confused. Ive just uploaded some pics to my grow journal whcih is the thread in my signature. i will +rep anyone who can help even the tiniest bit. Thanks guys
 
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