MerryJizzRain
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Also that last pic looks like the light is angled sideways instead of top down. Is that the case, if so why?
Plant growing VERY slowly
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bradburry
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then your fucked until you get a small humidifier £15 ebay
bradburry
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you live on a farm
Kush Knight
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Liar.
Did not make to flower-.5 gram is not even close to fine results in my book.
With those lights you can get a few more nodes at best.
The reason you haven't even got the most out of this setup is because you put the cfl's too far away....
Take the hoods (read heaters) off, and put the cfl's both directly above the plant about 2 inches away.
VERY IMPORTANT: Put a mini fan on the plant to cool the temps. You need temps to be under 80F. That may mean 3 usb cpu fans....
If you want the plant to finish, (it'll have 1/8-1/2 oz),
buy at the very least
5 more 20w ACTUAL WATTAGE cfl (3 2700k, 2 5400-6500k) + hoods+fan,
or
2 40w ACTUAL WATTAGE cfl (2700k) and 2 more 20w (5400k) + hoods+fan.
The hoods are useful once the plant is developed. Consider a white trashbag and pvc ghetto grow tent.
If you buy these and restart that plant, flip to 12/12 about 4 weeks after recovery, topping twice and lollipopping the side branches.
If you don't buy these, your only chance is the sun.
If you don't up the light, that new pot is way too big.
And how's it supposed to expand if you're starving it.
Cotyledons wasted, soil flushed, light deprivation.
Its hungry now, even though it shouldn't be at that size.
5 weeks.......... Thats dedication, or ignorance.
You can grow without exact temp control or rh control, but that could mean the difference between ounces and pounds.
Can't tell if this is a troll post.
bradburry
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me either
CoveredSociety
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this is not a troll post guys i swear. Im just trying to get yer back up and running ya know. Another post said lower the lights to about 2 inches away from the plant? But when i put my finger that far away it feels warm... not hot, just warm... Almost too warm for the plant. I dont have a fan, so idk how to keep it cool??? And to take the round things off my lamps? that surround the light bulb?
bradburry
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a fan
Kush Knight
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If you can't get the minimal stuff, put the plants down. You need a fan.
You may need to buy new sockets/fixtures.
You can't use those heat hoods on a seedling. They suck in general because they add heat. And with no fan.....
Its plain to see you haven't spent more than a half hour doing real research. Go crack a botany book and don't come back till the spine is well worn.
Afterthought: If you move the whole setup outside into some 55F days, you'll be back in business and probably thriving compared to now. Thats the only time I can imagine heat hoods helping.
And if you live on a farm, wth? I would think even livestock only farms would care for the grazing land... Either theres good nute rich soil, or theirs industrial nutes somewhere on that property.
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CoveredSociety
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I live on the biggest grass based farm in new zealand. We have things such as Urea, pro jib on the farm but i got told urea is bad for weed? what about pro jib?
i <3 ganja
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u live in a farm and u grow indoors?????....why let all that sun go to waste?
Kush Knight
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Its a poor quality fert and will likely burn leaves on small pot plants. But its better than nothing. I dont know about your fert, but a 1/6 dose of just about anything will help right now.
But again, moar light!
But again, moar light!
CoveredSociety
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The problem here is its one of the wettest places on earth. Even during summer we can get up 250ml of rain a day. It rains a lot! some days are quite nice and sunny which i do put it outside sometimes when the weather is good. But iv been told on a previous post that mixing indoor light with the sun can have negative effects? personally i thought the sun every now and again would do it some good
i <3 ganja
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damn,i hate too much humidity..yeah i think theese conditions would destroy yr plants.no,it doesnt affect it since you keep the time schedule!!
GrowHydro2193
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You suck at growing...do some research
CoveredSociety
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Haha yeah well guys ... Look at the pic. Its growing fine... Just cause i dont have a grow box and 20+ cfls or a MH or anything like that... Imho natural is better. obviously... if yous have ever smoked any decent outdoor bud youd know outdoors rocks over indoors. And tastes better cause its not getting all that artificial nutes. Its growing fine. And will be posting pics as i go on through the grow... Just cause i suck doesnt mean i should kill it.. it had a rough start... hey eminem had a rough start, but now look at him blooming more than anyone... take that similar theory and apply to a plant. is posible
Kush Knight
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1. It is NOT growing fine. For its size, it'd be at day 6-9 if you used just 40w of cfl properly. But its over 35-40 days... You ABSOLUTELY WILL NEED MORE LIGHT. Its 10,000 lumens to flower properly. 7,500 lumens cuts the quality way back. You hardly have 2,000 of inferior spectrum. If you can't listen to other people with much more experience, gtfo rollitup. You need 70-100w of cfl per plant for an 1/8th (the way you grow)- 3/4 oz (the way a good grower grows). That's not going overboard on the light. The plant does have special requirements to flower. If you aim for less than this, dont expect the plant to bud at all. I told you exactly what you need to grow at the minimum. It'll just cost another $25-50 (power included) initial startup cost. Then you can harvest 1/2-1 oz every few months for an additional $15-30 in power. If that oz is only worth ~$90...... You break even on moneysaved:moneyspent first grow. Then every grow after gives you another $50-75 in savings. If you have the say $45, and want to grow, why refuse buying 5 more 23w's?
To be blunt, cfl's are closer to candles than HID's. Something like 15% (number from my ass, fairly accurate) usable light when the HID's throw off 10x as much light with ~85% (nfma,fa) being usable. Minimal PAR (photosynthetically active radiation,) and poor watt/lux efficiency. The light is completely unusable to the plant if 8" away.
2. Indoor is almost always better. Just check the macros. Then ask anyone who can choose between indoor and out on a regular basis. 8/10 would prefer indoor. No foreign pollen, hair, reduced chance of smoking bugs, improved taste, increased trich production. It's getting harder nowadays to even sell quality outdoor to flipper dispensaries.
Outdoor just produces more and is a free source of light. If you can find a spot in direct sunlight, it'll start up (actually grow, not barely survive.) Seedlings can handle high humidity. Same in veg. Just have a fan on them at all times and have a way to protect the plant by week 2 of flower. Also be sure to amend with enough perlite, vermiculite, coco, and/or peat. The excessive drainage will counterbalance the rain.
3. Organic does taste better. But you likely smoke name brand synthetics all the time and probably couldn't tell the difference. The point is you use what you have. It is alive. And starving, literally. Plants do not like waiting 3 weeks for the food they wanted then. If you have a source of food available, use it.
4. That seedling has a high chance of being male as sex is determined around week 3-4. Your conditions are more inclined to a male (high heat, irregular and low light patterns, lack of N, and likely less K than wanted, cotyledons damaged early, defoliation at much to early).
Any grower whose finished a plant would be inclined to put the plant down. Especially if they KNOW conditions won't permit successful flowering.
If I had soil right now, I'd show you that a 23w 2700k + 9w 2700k (~1500-1750 lux) gets a seed to node 4 or 5 in ~1 week with secondary branching starting. Then the plant freezes. Then you add another 23w in veg and you can get 10" tall plant likely to produce 1/8-1/4oz if yet another 25-50w is added in flower.
I could outgrow your plant in 10 days with just 32w of cfl. And keep the 10-16 leaves it'd have.
Just fucking google cfl grows. Start by googling 40w cfl grow. The first vid I saw, obvious stretch, about as far progressed as the seeds that sprouted in the dark under my deck.
The different forums will all say more light.
Heres what a good grower can expect from ~60w of cfl. Leafy and lightweight but stoney. His "Mylar tent" really helped too. Speaking from experience, it was closer to 1/3 oz harvest.
Now be sure to upload a 40w harvest pic to prove me wrong on the amount of wattage necessary. 60w made barely any calyx grow, meaning lots of leaf and stem weight.
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Triplec
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This guy had another post on the same thing. He didn't listen to any advice given. I gave up.
Kush Knight
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I learned 80w cfl per plant minimum within an hour of research on the first day I was interested in growing some pot. Instead of asking the forums for the info I needed, I used google for the first 8-10 months. Anything you could ask is likely asked and answered.
So sick of these threads.
They basically ask why it's growing slow, and try to preemptively argue as to why its not the obvious problem. Poorly. They lie and say they grew one exactly the same way before with no problems. So they must already know what the answer is. Why deny it?
Triplec
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Yep. I spent hours and hours of research learning how to grow. Shit, I still do and I still fuck up here and there. Lol.