Plant count

I have a question about how many plants I am allowed. I have heard conflicting information. I believe I am allowed to have 12 plants in total. Can I have all 12 in flower or am I only allowed 6 veg 6 flower? Do seedlings and clones count as part of the 12? Thanks for any input.

12 any which way you want including clones most just kinda rotate if they have 12 so there is not too many flowers at once since your only allowed 2.5 oz so good luck brother with that one its quite a conundrum

What would make you think seedlings and clones are not plants? Have ya any knowledge of botany?

No but seriously it baffles the shit out of me with the trend of several threads lately concerning legal issues .

Why in the hell would someone come on here and ask for legal advice? weather we are right or wrong your really going to risk a potential felony among a bunch of other things leo can throw at you based on what we have to say in an online forum? I wouldn't and don't.

My opinion would be to get a competent mmj lawyer with a proven record. unfortunately that is the cost associated with growing in this state imo. He may not keep you 100% safe but it would be a lot better than he said she said shit on the internet. This is all just my opinion and no way legal advice.

We debate the law because a courtroom is nothing more than a paid for, costly and dangerous debate hall; just like politics in our Capitals. Cancer will never be cured in a courtroom, but cancer just may never be cured because of a courtroom and it's adversarial debate. You'll find no more answers on a basketball court than you will in a courtroom. Although, I'm all in with Harvard and Yale in the latter ...

I have yet to find a lawyer to date that can explain to me what the possession of 12 plants and/or 2.5 ounces of flower has to do with my lawful medicinal needs or my affirmative criminal defense to maintain an uninterrupted supply of those needs as I see fit.

The problem is the means to the ends within this system (aka procedure). At least on Easter, let's just lose the false reverence for these "officers of the court" and their wealthy and powerful industry.

Happy Easter!

Anything with a root is considered a plant even a plant cut down drying would be a plant, you can have 12 for yourself and 12 per patient up to 5 patients and 72 / 15 oz total

These are all good answers. There are really three things to keep in mind...

1/ You can grow enough for your own medical use and to ensure a continuous supply. This point is put first because it is the trickiest, but the most broad and speaks to the spirit of the law. Pay close attention to points 2 and 3, because if you exceed those, you will have to justify every gram and your medical use.

2/ Under section 4 and based on court rulings- 12 plants are considered presumed continuous supply. If you don't exceed this at any one time (any stage plant), you should be ok on THIS point (continuous supply)

3/ Under section 4 and based on court rulings- 2.5 ounces of usable cannabis is considered presumed medical use.

Now here is where the sticker is- if you have more than 2.5 ounces, AND/OR 12 plants, you are in Section 8 land and have to prove EVERYTHING down to your bonafide relationship with your doctor, every gram of cannabis, and every plant. You also get to hire an attorney, pay for an expert, and devote 18 months of your life and possible freedom to proving your point. You also get to do this if you leave your grow unsecured (read unlocked), transport it incorrectly, get involved with transfers outside your registry associated patients, or violate any other provision of the Act.

Oh yeah, you can be in perfect compliance and run into a LEO with an attitude who can, right or wrong, charge you and leave it to the courts/jury to decide if you were in violation. So the only defense is don't come to the attention of leo for your grow, domestic violence, jay walking, having a taillight out, or even posting too vigorously on Facebook or about news stories on public sites. Keep it quiet.

Dr. Bob

^^^^ As neither of us have passed the bar, but know a lil bit, answer me this: At what point does common law no longer become common

We've both done decades of post graduate research in differing disciplines and have been studying MMMA for nearly a decade now. If with our formal educations we know only enough today to know that we really don't know, what chance does the average patient/caregiver have? That's not Constitutional Rule of Law in the spirit of Common Law. That's being ruled by law in the spirit of economics while exploiting the Constitution ...

It will be legal next year anyways don't even worry about it anymore.. 1 oz and 6 plants without a card anyone 21 and older

ryan, only the legislature bills (currently stalled) allow for 6 plants. milegalize (not on the ballot yet) does 12 plants and abrogate is infinite.

also for OP, grow under your limit. if you are just a patient, only grow 10 plants. that will help if you have a branch or stick in the trash and the cops go sniffing.