Plant Count/Prescription

Hi all, I was wondering on how they decide on how many plants is right for you or your condition.

So basically what condition are you treating and how many grams were you prescribed.

I don't have an MMAR license yet or I would start with mine lol..
 
Wow 127 views and no answers lol, I guess a lot of people are wondering the same thing as me while they wait for their MMAR licenses.
 

Pkkush

Member
The dr will ask you wat you consume in a week ANC he will figure out your plant that way, I told him I went thru an oz in a week so he prescribed me 4g a day and 20 plants. I hope this helps
 

HighLowGrow

Well-Known Member
Anyone wanting to know their plant count based on daily usage and grow type (indoor/outdoor) can use this calculator
This calculator tells me if I smoke 1 gram a day, I need 1 oz a month and it will take 5 plants.

I grow 4 plants at a time with a 400. So every 3 months I can produce about 5 ozs dried. This gives me 1.66666667 ozs a month.

If I'm calculating all this right, I am producing .416 oz from each plant per month.

So if I was going by that calculator, 5 plants would yield 2.08 ozs a month indoors.

This is just a basic grow in a nutshell. These numbers can be improved with a bigger light.

I would say that calculator is about 50% off.
 

Pharoah

Active Member
This calculator tells me if I smoke 1 gram a day, I need 1 oz a month and it will take 5 plants.

I grow 4 plants at a time with a 400. So every 3 months I can produce about 5 ozs dried. This gives me 1.66666667 ozs a month.

If I'm calculating all this right, I am producing .416 oz from each plant per month.

So if I was going by that calculator, 5 plants would yield 2.08 ozs a month indoors.

This is just a basic grow in a nutshell. These numbers can be improved with a bigger light.

I would say that calculator is about 50% off.

My daily usage = 18g/day Punch that into the calculator. This is what the calculator will spit out, and is the EXACT same as what my license says as well.

Daily usage = 18g/day
Plant count = 88
Allowed on person at any time = 540g
allowed in storage = 3960g

Trust me, the calculator is bang on.

Edit: In addition, it's clearly suggested they are aware of the extra potential yield per plant, and is the reason they included the "Destroy all excess supply" rule. However, they have to consider that the people who are growing their own medicine, have likely never grown before, and is subject to failures due to bugs, burns, etc.
 

HighLowGrow

Well-Known Member
The calculator may do the math correct. I can make that formula in Excel in about 30 seconds. I was just saying with the 1 gram/day senario, it's telling me I need to grow 5 plants at a time to produce my 1 oz a month? It's a bunch of shit. Fuck, I can grow 5 autos and produce 5 ozs every 8 weeks to be conservative. Now I'm producing 2.5 ozs every month.

I can grow 2 autos and make my 1 oz/mo. Not 5 plants.

All I'm saying is the plant number is way off.

Am I wrong?

I'm not disputing what the calc spits out and what your license says.
 

Pharoah

Active Member
Yes, you are wrong, they don't consider all the techniques that growers use to bump up their yield/quality, this includes, but is not limited to, topping, teas, etc.

The plant count is what it is, and it's based on grams per day usage. That's how HC calculates it. On top of that, you are allowed to have a significant amount in storage. This means if you grow more than your allotted "monthly" amount, you can package and store the remainder and discontinue growing for an amount of time, saving you electricity cost's because your yield was larger than expected.

In addition, they consider plants of all types while planted under plant count. This includes sprouts, mom, clones, and flowering plants. They include any plant after harvest under the Storage Limit, meaning you have a significant amount of weight with each harvest until the cannabis has been dried that is applied to your storage count.

There's several ways of looking at this, and is one of the reasons for the reform put in place for our access to medical cannabis. That and the fact that organized crime has found ways of taking advantage of the sick and injured through the form of designated growing and various other loop holes within the system.

This is NOT to say however, that their plans to reform the system to have certain authorized people to mass produce cannabis and distribute it to those who have the cannabis consent form which was proposed by Omnibus C-10 Crime bill which has passed. I believe that major organized crime units will take advantage of this because they are the only ones with both the resources, and the experience to grow large scale amounts to supply the entirety of the medical cannabis patients across Canada.
 

HighLowGrow

Well-Known Member
Pharoah - You're all right. I went a little off track beating up the calc.

OP asked - Hi all, I was wondering on how they decide on how many plants is right for you or your condition.

If that's the calc they use. That's the calc they use. End of story there.

Is that calc link actually used by the Canadian doctors to calculate plant counts? Honest question.

I just dug up my paperwork -

"This patient may consume 1-2 ozs per week and may grow 20 mature female plants to produce this amount"

I never told the doc how much I consume so I don't know where he came up with these numbers.
 

Pharoah

Active Member
They don't use that calculator per-say, but that calculator was made using the same algorithms used by HC, as for the doctor putting a number of plants, that's not their jurisdiction, they have no say weather or not you can grow, or how many you can grow, that section of the application is completely separate from the authorization to possess, and is nothing more than an "Addon" to the original application.

You apply for your production license at the same time, or after applying for your possession license. The only form that requires a doctors signature is the B forms (B1 or B2 depending on condition). If your doctor tried to set, or limit your plant count, they seriously overstepped their bounds.
 

HighLowGrow

Well-Known Member
I just realized I'm on a "Canadian Patients" thread. Interesting stuff. Thanks for the education.

So you go see the doc and state you have XXX pains and what not. He/she decides if you fit into a B1 or B2 condition. You tell them you use 18g/day and the doc signs either a B1 or B2 form. Then you go apply for a possession license and a production license. Then based on your daily usage, the calculator somewhat comes into the equation and you get your plant count. Then your set?
 

Pharoah

Active Member
I just realized I'm on a "Canadian Patients" thread. Interesting stuff. Thanks for the education.

So you go see the doc and state you have XXX pains and what not. He/she decides if you fit into a B1 or B2 condition. You tell them you use 18g/day and the doc signs either a B1 or B2 form. Then you go apply for a possession license and a production license. Then based on your daily usage, the calculator somewhat comes into the equation and you get your plant count. Then your set?
Something like that yeah. Certain conditions like depression/anxiety and other non visible or "with a doubt" condition will need a specialist's diagnosis, while others that are visible, and "without a doubt" conditions do not.

The doctor fills out the B1/B2 forms, you then fill out all the other ones, send them in along with the B1/B2 forms, HC then calculates your plant count, personal possession amount, and storage amount. If you do not apply for the production, you will receive only a calculation to determine your personal possession amount.

But each application besides the original application to possess is an addon, and is not required. Only Form A and B1/B2 are absolutely required, the rest are optional.
 

painkillerman

Active Member
my doctor wont go above 8 grams day because that line on form most people 1-3 grams day lol he says more than 8 hell look lik a quack or drug pusher wtf but tons opy's are ok i guess least i got 8 also 40 plants max
 
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