Pinning strategies and triggers

I figure it isn't fair to track more crap on the original thread and it is only proper that those with a different experience regarding such things be heard.


But I started the thread so I'll go first.

The organism in question has several stages but in the end, the primary purpose of the mushroom is, as all creatures, to reproduce amd reproduce in a way that guarantees viability in genetics, I.e. Varying combinations that will help ensure adaptation of the species, and fresh approaches to environmental conditions.

So in this case the mushroom seeks to present spores, tiny packages of material that, when encountering the right conditions, will perpetuate the species. It seeks to present these spores to a situation that will best benefit propagation.

The fruit lends itself to that purpose, it rises above the ground and, when "ripe" and not beforehand, ejects spores with incredible force into the atmosphere.

What causes this process to begin when it does? Triggers and inhibitors. We seek to understand triggers and such because we want to induce fruiting amd induce it in a uniform and predictable way.


So let's talk about that.

In order to make things simple, let's attribute thought and awareness to the organism. Some actually believe due to the two way communication and connectedness of individual hyphae, that this "thought" may actually happen but that is another discussion.


Two compatible spores germinate on a suitable substrate in nature. At least one hyphae from each spore finds the other and (in the case of this organism), they make a clamp connection and grow vigorously together. Now the mycelium grows best in a moist and dim environment. Most often, if the material that supports and feeds the organism is overly exposed to sunlight, wind and evaporation, the material will dry out and the mycelium will suffer, either going into a dormant state or dying.

The mycelium will tend to use its viability in order to incorporate all the nutrient rich material it can. Seasons and environment play a role. The organism may have a limited amount of time before it freezes, dries or drowns. So it is a sort of race. Can it fully engulf (even if it has yet to draw all available nutrient from that material) before other environmental factors halt growth?

To repeat, it is in some way sheltered from wind, rain and sunlight.

Once it has reached the extent of readily available nutrients, the first trigger sets up



No.more food. Now it must initiate a system whereby it can perpetuate itself by sending spores into the world in the hope that a spore or two lites upon more food in another advantageous place.

Now, how does the mushroom know, having grown in a likely dark place, which way is up? Which way will allow it's fruit to rise into the air?


Light is the best way, in fact you will see fruit actually bend toward available light.

A trigger.

Next, most of these moist, sheltered places tend to hold the co2 that the organism itself generates in profusion. So, the places most aerated with the least amount of this metabolic waste will be most likely to bear fruit

Low co2 is a trigger.

I said that seasons come into play. If the mushroom encounters low temperatures, it is likely, from the sentient mushrooms point of view that "winter is comimg" and the demise of the organism is immanent.

Cold is a trigger. Before our friends jump in here, the organism we speak of is a tropical species and so, contrary to other moderate climate mushrooms, temperature variations of this sort are not very influential. It could, however, be argues that because evaporation has a cooling effect, the process of misting and fresh air might mean that cooling, rather than evaporation is the operative function.


I personally doubt that.

But when used in concert with all the others, it can have a profound effect and a can also be used to retard the other triggers.

So far, there is little direct influence of evaporation which, in itself, is quite variable and indicates little of the environment to the organism.

new folk Need not be overly concerned about any of this.

Limited nutrition is unimportant save to understand that the casing layer must have only a small amount of nutritional value. Any more and there is no trigger, in fact all a rich casing will do is signal to the mushroom that it has discovered a new source of food and need not send up its emergency survival system.

Light is unimportant other than to use as a directional system, which way is up. Only a tiny amount of light is needed as a trigger and any inspection of the grow will be enough light to trigger.

Fresh air exchange will keep co2 levels to near ambient.

So, barring comment from others, we will talk about orchestration next

swim grows mushrooms, I will show this to her.

this is very helpful. thank U

You say the fruit will present spores when the conditions are right and eject spores when it is ripe. Are you saying it pins when conditions are right and releases spores when ripe?

Is there a trigger for the release of spores or does it release spores based on age/size of the fruit? What I'm wondering is if you can trick it into pinning, then growing to a massive size before it breaks the veil and releases spores.

farmasensist said:

You say the fruit will present spores when the conditions are right and eject spores when it is ripe. Are you saying it pins when conditions are right and releases spores when ripe?

Is there a trigger for the release of spores or does it release spores based on age/size of the fruit? What I'm wondering is if you can trick it into pinning, then growing to a massive size before it breaks the veil and releases spores.

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I know of no way to inhibit the release of spores. A short time after the veil breaks, spores are ejected. You can slow everything down by cooling ambient temperatures but to knowledge you can't extend fruiting time in order to get bigger fruit.

It will present fruit.

BlessedBeyond said:

swim grows mushrooms, I will show this to her.

this is very helpful. thank U

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I've gotten advice from swim. this household likes swim