Pineapple Express G13 Lab's Seed to Harvest

hey scotty! im scotty from scotland too :D got a few questions if you wouldent mind bud, i wont hit you with too many but ill probably pester you a little later :P

1. the dayton blower you use, is it quiet and is it ok for grow tents too? i hear read they are strong and vaccum shut cabinet doors, dont want to buy a 465 cfm if its going to suck up my tent and spit it out the window xD

2.would you recomend using a cmh from seed to harvest or would you advise using cfl's during veg and then switching? (on a thread on here named Things To Know About Lighting it says MH lamps will make fluffy light buds if you use them from seed to harvest but it dosent mention cmh)

3. Whats ur take on LED? :D

edit- i know the dayton blower will be blowing out the hot hair just fine but do i need to assist air intake or would i get enough fresh air from just havint a vent right by the window(concealed of corse =D)

thx in advance, ur epic
 

SCOTTYBALLS

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hey scotty! im scotty from scotland too :D got a few questions if you wouldent mind bud, i wont hit you with too many but ill probably pester you a little later :P

1. the dayton blower you use, is it quiet and is it ok for grow tents too? i hear read they are strong and vaccum shut cabinet doors, dont want to buy a 465 cfm if its going to suck up my tent and spit it out the window xD

2.would you recomend using a cmh from seed to harvest or would you advise using cfl's during veg and then switching? (on a thread on here named Things To Know About Lighting it says MH lamps will make fluffy light buds if you use them from seed to harvest but it dosent mention cmh)

3. Whats ur take on LED? :D

edit- i know the dayton blower will be blowing out the hot hair just fine but do i need to assist air intake or would i get enough fresh air from just havint a vent right by the window(concealed of corse =D)

thx in advance, ur epic
No blowers are not going to implode your tent ;)

CMH from seed to harvest YES!!

LED's No not yet still a ways off but could be a good alternative in the future...

As far as your intake and exhaust it depends on how your setup is.. for a tent I would say no need but it would not hurt either just increase your CFM..
 
cool thx for the answers, i had no idea you could get 15 oz from 1 plant but im not that hopefull lol i just want good bud, 5 oz would put the biggest smile on my face and hopefully ill achieve that copying you !
 

mr2shim

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Yea 15 oz for 1 plant is a nice dream. That would be over 1 gram per watt. I hope to get at least 10 from mine.
 
hey scotty, got another question for ya. im sure the stone from PE is great but i like to get knocked the fuck out when i smoke so even tho this will be my first grow do you think it would be too ambitious to go for a strain with really high thc that is not recomended by seed banks for first timers? i know indica is suited for indoor grows more but as a first time grow would it be daft to go for a sativa? bearing in mind ill be using the same methods as you almost to a T if i can.
also if you dont mind, where do get youre equipment?

thx in advance!
 

AWnox

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Hey SCOTTYBALLS, don't know if you around this thread anymore but I really wanted to know about how you got a handle on those ph levels during the first weeks. It seems that even if you add ph'ed water to lower your ph it still rises. How would you be able to adjust your ph if you didn't have to top with water? Can you just put a couple of drops in the reservoir to adjust or does it have to be water from the top? I didn't rinse the pebbles with ph water before starting the WF and the seems to rise on it's own for some reason. Any info you can provide on this would be appreciated my friend. Thanks for your time.
 

SCOTTYBALLS

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Sounds like hard water.. High calcium levels make Ph hard to lower.. You need a ro system or better water source..
 
Mine does the exact same thing awnox. I have a soil system but some aluminum sulfate seems to keep it pretty stable. I have to add it about every 10 days or two waterings but the ph stays down and the plants stay happy. We have hard water too.
 

TheOrganic

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Here's my PE lil over 3weeks in flowering. 1000w to 750w. Organic soil FFOF/LW 2 to 1. With Humboldt organic line. Vegged for bout a month under T5. She is 2.5 feet tall, kinda stretched like a big dog when flipped but slowed down now and is gonna pack on weight the way she is going.

edit. sorry photo number 2 is a diff strain so ignore that. my bad.
 

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SCOTTYBALLS

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I use distilled baby water. PH is about 7 and ppm around 70 or so...

Ok good then your fine the first few weeks ph dose not matter as the plant is not really using nutrients anyway.. really you should not have to add any for the first 2 weeks.. when you start adding more nutrients you will have more ph buffers if you using distilled water then you have nothing to worry about the nova will buffer your water so dont even sweat it.
 

AWnox

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Ok good then your fine the first few weeks ph dose not matter as the plant is not really using nutrients anyway.. really you should not have to add any for the first 2 weeks.. when you start adding more nutrients you will have more ph buffers if you using distilled water then you have nothing to worry about the nova will buffer your water so dont even sweat it.
Thanks for the clarification. It almost seems to easy for the first 2 weeks. :) The real challenge starts afterwards I imagine. It's good though to know I don't have to worry about one less thing for the first 2 weeks. Thanks again.
 

snap1234

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Hi Scotty, I was wondering if the CMH bulb you used for the PE grow has its own ballast, or is the CMH bulb interchangeable with an HPS/MH setup. say if I was using a Lumatek 600w digital ballast, would I be able to use a CMH bulb instead of an HPS bulb or would I have to get a ballast specific to the CMH bulb? Love all the info i've learned from you, and will you be doing any more journals again on RIU?

Thanks,

Snap
 

brokenturtle3102

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Has anyone ever made a scrog that attaches to your waterfarm? I have a Jack hearer femmed from greenhouse seeds 14 days old in my waterfarm, and I would love to scrog it! But the way my grow is setup, I have to move my waterfarm every once in a while. Does anyone have any designs or pics of a scrog that can move with the waterfarm? Thanks and peace.
 

stondded

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there is an awesome thread in the diy section for making moveable screens tht was made about a month ago tht was really well done
 

brokenturtle3102

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I just built one, I will be starting a thread doing a waterfarm grow with a scrog attached to the waterfarm soon using Jack herrer femd. I subbed to this thread originally because I was going to start with pineapple express in a waterfarm but my seed didn't root lol
 

SmeLLyTreeZ

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Amazing thread, enough said! I'll be trying a waterfarm at some point in the near future ;)

I do have a few questions for scotty :joint:

-I'm working with a very similar space and was planning on ordering a 400 watt lumatek air cooled hood so I could throw as much lumens as possible and still have a chance at cooling the room. My biggest problem is going to be cooling and I realize this going in. So my question to you would be, @80 degree ambient temps would you recommend an air cooled hps or just a regular batwing reflector paired with a huge fan similar to what you have? 440 cfm for a 50 square foot room. I do currently have a/c ran to the box but its tied into the main a/c so its not constantly on. I could run a window unit similar to what I think you have going and lower the ambient temp down to at least 77.? What would you do in my situation? The reason I ask is because those air cooled hoods arn't cheap I just didn't think it would be possible to cool my area without one?? Didn't mean to ramble but your advice would be much appreciated! I was also thinking of the CMH but its a toss up as of right now.
 
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