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Hello all. I've never posted but have been following this thread for quite a few months and was sold on the waterfarm. Could someone post a link for a good lucas formula for dummies or just quickly summarize a nute schedule for how y'all use the FloraNovaBloom only? Thanks in advance.

start at the begining Scotty explains it very well and the FNB has been working great for me nothing but healthy plant. Also remember what he said less is more lots of peeps over nute.

Hi Benjammin and welcome to RIU.

There is a portion of this very thread that deals with that same subject. Consider it a buried treasure. If you dig in and read, you'll find a lot of gold in here, including how to know when and how much to feed. Happy reading!!

T.M.B said:

start at the begining Scotty explains it very well and the FNB has been working great for me nothing but healthy plant. Also remember what he said less is more lots of peeps over nute.

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Whenever giving advice to fellow growers, pitching caution is always wise; however, in my opinion, the purpose of growing hydro is to push our plants to their top potential. You can't force a plant to take in more nutrients than it needs, but we can keep a close eye on the plant and learn to spot when she is asking for more food. If you are constantly bringing ppm up to say, 900, and the next morning the water has decreased and ppms are reading 700, that is your plant saying.... 'Feed ME'. So you would increase the ppm to say, 1100, and keep an eye on how the plant responds. If she looks healthy and the ppms drop again, bump it up to 1300 ppm.

The point is, yes, be careful, but also learn to recognize an area of opportunity that the plant is offering. Do not be afraid to bump up your nute levels if called for. There is no set schedule, or a specific number of doses to apply each day. It is totally up to the plant. Learning to recognize when to increase or decrease the amount of nutrients is essential if one wishes to get the maximum potential out of their garden.

For example, when reading along with Scotty's journal, notice that he posts the PH and ppm information throughout the grow. You'll notice that in early flowering, the plant was probably going through nutrients like they were out of style. A ppm of 1600 or so would not be unreasonable at that point. If anyone is reading this and still uncertain or cloudy about recognizing when to increase or decrease food, I would suggest going back through Scotty's work and paying attention to what cycle the plant is in, and what Scotty is feeding it, just as a general guide.

Happy Growing

This thread is still hot so I am going to post this question here.

What do you guys think about this paint mixer attachment from lowes for making bubble hash, it looks good I may have to pull it out every now and then to make sure the leafs aren't clumping all up. But I think it would work I have never made hash before but that fucker looks like it will agitate good enough.

It attaches to a drill so it will be perfect for me.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_160975-995-34355_0__?productId=3087677&Ntt=paint+mixer&pl=1&currentURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Dpaint%2Bmixer

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I personally believe you'd be better off with a blade that will move around some stuff and won't clog....

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They dont have any of those at lowes and I cant find any good ones on ebay.

HAHA i just made some bubble hash with the Vanilla Kush and turned it into canna butter.. I use a paint mixer from lowes as well but it has a blue plastic agitator it has 4 paddles on it works awsome... Here I just found it online for $2 I paid like $20 for it ! all well worth every penny.. its called the Warner 10330 Hurricane a name like that you know its the shit..

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Paint+mixer&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&prmd=ivns&resnum=1&biw=1345&bih=557&wrapid=tlif129678695028610&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=14167436973121683993&ei=BGZLTa7JG8Gp8AbpptnbDg&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CHwQ8wIwAA#

SCOTTYBALLS said:

HAHA i just made some bubble hash with the Vanilla Kush and turned it into canna butter.. I use a paint mixer from lowes as well but it has a blue plastic agitator it has 4 paddles on it works awsome... Here I just found it online for $2 I paid like $20 for it ! all well worth every penny.. its called the Warner 10330 Hurricane a name like that you know its the shit..

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Paint+mixer&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&prmd=ivns&resnum=1&biw=1345&bih=557&wrapid=tlif129678695028610&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=14167436973121683993&ei=BGZLTa7JG8Gp8AbpptnbDg&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CHwQ8wIwAA#

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What was the final weight of the vanilla kush?

Serepis i agree you have to follow the intake and adjust but as I have found by following advice from people that have been doing hydro for many of years and not a first timer like you. These guys never go over a EC of 1.4 and grow trees yielding 50 to 76 oz.s a plant the part they stress is caring for the roots and the end product flavor. I dont care how much you give your plants more power to ya but in hydro 1 day of over juicing your plants can set you back instead of moving forward, all i am trying to say is up with caution in these farms when they fill with roots i think your lucky if you have a gallon of water in them. That said I know it takes all other variables as well like res temp room temp humidity and proper lighting.good luck

Sorry dude, I'm calling you out on this. First off, I add a single gallon of water to my farms daily right now, and that is when the level meter is showing half full, so I know for a FACT that the reservoirs are holding more than a gallon. Secondly, it is common knowledge amongst the hydro growers I have read from that when a plant continually takes in more nutrients than water, causing your ppms to drop, that the plant can easily utilize more nutrients. I can't 'force' a plant to take in more nutrients or water than it can use. I'm following Scotty's grow, not your advice.

You keep on listening to those guys that grow 5 pound trees (I call bullshit by the way) and I'll listen to Scotty and others that HAVE ACTUALLY posted pictures and results in the forums, rather than just talk, thank you very much. I may be a first time Hydro grower, but I have plant sense and common sense and a good guide to boot. I seriously doubt you know people growing 5 lb trees.... That figure is outrageous considering that top strains outdoors produce about 2-3 lbs a plant.

Once again you are making some outrageous claims that I just find impossible to believe. Based on that, I can't take anything you are saying for any type of value.

I can say that following Scotty's grow and advice on feeding and ppm adjustments, that my plants are doing great. Pic attached to prove it. Do they look burnt at all to you? Do you see any signs of toxicity? I have been running nearly 1600 ppm for more than a week now....

I rest my case... I know how to adjust ppms thank ya very much and I stand by my earlier post.

and btw, it doesn't matter if the res is holding a gal or two gals..... ppms are ppms..... 1600 ppm in one gal of water is the same as 1600 ppm in two gal of water. As long as the plant continues to burn through nutrients like she is, there is no danger of overfeeding her. In her current cycle, she is flowering over 55 tops, her PH is 5.4 and her ppms are usually in the 1400's when I check in the morning, down from 1600. That is an indicator that 1700 is probably her ideal, but I don't take her over 1600 simply as a precaution.

T.M.B said:

Serepis i agree you have to follow the intake and adjust but as I have found by following advice from people that have been doing hydro for many of years and not a first timer like you. These guys never go over a EC of 1.4 and grow trees yielding 50 to 76 oz.s a plant the part they stress is caring for the roots and the end product flavor. I dont care how much you give your plants more power to ya but in hydro 1 day of over juicing your plants can set you back instead of moving forward, all i am trying to say is up with caution in these farms when they fill with roots i think your lucky if you have a gallon of water in them. That said I know it takes all other variables as well like res temp room temp humidity and proper lighting.good luck

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Lol 5 pounds =D thats a legendary 25 foot sativa? rofl copter...... 5 pounds indoors 1 plant? thats insane

WvMade said:

Lol 5 pounds =D thats a legendary 25 foot sativa? rofl copter...... 5 pounds indoors 1 plant? thats insane

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Nah, it ain't insane, it's just BS....

Yea thats what i was sayin....

oh really google Heath Robinson and start researching he has created numerous grow systems and yes he has grown a single plant that has produced 76 oz.s dry with journals to prove. I dont care to have a pissing match but before you claim bullshit and know all read up a little more. I also agree and said you have to read what the res tells you but with care in hydro a day of to much nutes will set you back. So after you read up on Heath Robinson go ahead and you tell him bs and he dont know what hes doing. I never claim to know all but I have been researching many grower who do so believe what you want you seem to know everything already what a pitty.

I'm ending your pissing match right here... I don't care who Heath Robinson is. You made it sound like you have contacts that are growing that kind of yield on a regular basis, and I called BS based on that. Is it possible one man, was able to produce a plant once in his life that yielded 76 oz? yes, sure it is.... is he doing it all the time? Hell no, or his name would be a legend and we would all already know who he is.

Back to the topic at hand, The post that you tossed all your doubt and piss on was simply reiterating what Scotty has written in his journal, this very thread.... I didn't see you debating Scotty or calling him out on his advice or ppm counts.... do you have a hard on for me? lol

Yea dude thats from 2 plants 30.6 oz + 43.8 and its a vertical grow its on RIU

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/101347-critical-mass-tree-grow-x-2.html

no that is not correct Scotty himself said less is more early in his thread it seems you have a hard on for everything I post. I totally agree on giving a plant what it needs and how in the fuck do you read into I have personal contacts doing it,and yes Heath Robinson is pretty famous in the grow comunity as much as your on your pc I would think you would know that but I forgot you know everything.

You just don't quit, do you? I don't know everything.... You show me a damn pot tree with 76 ounces and I'll kiss your ass AND I'll apologize. This is the third time you have drug me into a pissing contest with you and everytime it begins the same way, I share a tip or explain a process and you come along and tell me I don't know shit, yada yada yada.... I do know shit. I know what i have personally done myself. I know that my plant loves 1600 ppm nutrient mix, whether you like it or not.

POST #103 in this VERY thread, Scotty posts that his ppm are around 850-950 and he plans on bumping them up another 300 ppm on the next res change, FOLLOWED by another 200-300 bump after that, depending on what the plants tell him they need. I have read through this thread 20 times... at least.... I know what is in it. I'm growing it....

I stand behind my earlier posts stating that the plant will tell you what it needs if you know how to listen. 1600 ppm for my plants is not over-juicing as you stated. Every morning, the ppms have dropped, not gone done as the water was used up. What does that tell you? I have yet to spot a single burned tip on any of my leaves..... what does that tell you?

Rather than rely on what some researcher has stated, why not rely on yourself and what you have learned on your own? You claim I know it all, and that is BS. If I did, I wouldn't spend as much time reading through here as i do. You could say the same thing for yourself, because you think you know it all, or you wouldn't be involved in this conversation with me.

Go back and read post #103 and go from there..... I'll accept your apology or silence at that time...

I'm simply stating that when water goes down and ppm go down, you need to increase the nutrients. If the water goes down and ppm go up, you need to add more water only and reduce the ppm. That is the whole point of doing hydroponics, accelerated growth. With that accelerated growth comes bigger demands from the plant.

It is common sense...

post #130, ppm at 1500
post #147, ppm at 1600

comments T.M.B.?

Are you still going to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about? Are you going to deny Scotty's results?

T.M.B said:

no that is not correct Scotty himself said less is more early in his thread it seems you have a hard on for everything I post. I totally agree on giving a plant what it needs and how in the fuck do you read into I have personal contacts doing it,and yes Heath Robinson is pretty famous in the grow comunity as much as your on your pc I would think you would know that but I forgot you know everything.

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