Pics of some issues with my babies

urgod

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lol pH is the same in every single country. whatever works for you i guess my friend
 

mpw75

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Sarcasm isn't pretty ...... Even your hydro Ph is out...... Come on man sort it out its people's time and plants your messing with.
 

TwistedEvil

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haha, dudes and or chics, medicate and enjoy :bigjoint: Plant Science, is science, and pretty much spot on....but if ur having good results with ur babies, no matter what numbers say, right on, good sht ;)

My run off from room temp 7.0 water is reading 6.6 So with the 29th of this month being 30 days since sprouts popped up from soil, could transplanting into the final pot, 3.3 gal, with ffof and watering in well, be a 'bad' thing since they are not quote un quote 'mature/30 days old? Not sure if it would be better than flushing them all, THEN transplanting in 6 days?

Stay medicated my friends....
 

urgod

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Sarcasm isn't pretty ...... Even your hydro Ph is out...... Come on man sort it out its people's time and plants your messing with.
your knowledge with growing is questionable.


anyways, i think your plants is very underdeveloped. have you amped up your feeding schedule? i looked at ur pictures again and it might be a deficiency.
 

TwistedEvil

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My run off was 6.6 I added a couple of cap fulls of peroxide to the gallon of 7.0 water yesterday and just got up to see the babies not having that 'droopy look'. I picked off some of the really bad leaves from all plants, and debating on transplanting them before the 29th. Think pinching off the leaves, soaking them to flush and adding peroxide, be too much of a 'shock' to transplant now instead of the 29th?
 

urgod

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erhm... if you peroxided ur water, and your plants suddenly propped up. you might just lack oxygen in the rootzone. see if you got enough holes in your pot (not the plant)
 

TwistedEvil

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anyways, i think your plants is very underdeveloped. have you amped up your feeding schedule? i looked at ur pictures again and it might be a deficiency.
I haven't feed them at all bro. They r 3weeks old (from seed) in FFOF soil. I didn't plan on adding nutes since I planned to transplant into fresh FFOF in 3.3 gal pots when they were 30 days old. I figured to give them their first feeding 3-5 weeks after that. They will be in a mylar tent with 1000watt MH and filter after transplanting.
 

TwistedEvil

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erhm... if you peroxided ur water, and your plants suddenly propped up. you might just lack oxygen in the rootzone. see if you got enough holes in your pot (not the plant)
Could be bro, they are in those 6" pots from wally world that have a 'rim' on the bottom part to where water would not drain unless it filled up about 2" from bottom. I haven't went ape sht on watering them since day one, so the roots may have hit dry spots? idk. They are all flushed now and not droopy. Just not sure if I should transplant now or wait until their 30th day, this friday.
 

urgod

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post a new picture please. either way, those peopleofwalmart.com pots are too small for them. transplant on friday should be alright make sure you superthrive afterwards =D
 

TwistedEvil

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hahaha, werd.....they are just wat i used the first grow and they were only in them from germd seeds to 30 days, then went in the 3.3 gallons I got from a local nursery. I'll post new pics in a few
 

BenFranklin

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You're doing frickin awesome man, you're doing it exactly right.... Wait til they are screaming FEED ME!!!!

Just make sure you water them with a well balanced(PH) meal(nutes)... That big fat one that's in the middle that is standing up nice and proud.... it's probably a frickin male.. =(

They always seem to need less attention than everyone else, and always seem to be the most promising looking... LOL! Females need a lot of water(IMO), you will see that once males pop their flowers they will a lot of times drop their water intake and prepare for death... Not females... They just keep getting fatter and fatter.. and taking in more and more water. Until they get about 2 weeks from done... (So says George Washington)... ;)
 

iiKode

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Start adding nutes 1/4 mix and try to get you'r ph around 6.5, looks a little like P def, So yeah defo add some nutes to those babies.
 

TwistedEvil

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Yea, my first grow (this past summer) I noticed the plants that grew taller, faster ended up being males for the most part :/ But luckily out of just 'regular' seeds (not feminized) I had only a few males :)

I'd say it's a 'safe' bet they are ready to get into fresh soil and a bigger pot. I'm fairly sure the nutes will bring the water PH down and with the buffer of soil, it will be a little lower than 6.6 run off....time will tell.

The pots they will be in will have a lot better drainage with about a 1/4" of pea gravel in the bottom. I'm hoping that will help with lessening the chances of root rot/staying to wet not allowing enough oxygen for the roots.....as well not hindering the roots to absorb everything they need, with close to the 'proper/suggested' levels of each.

A few pics here ranging from nutes to their final home from the closet.









 

jackmac

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A plant that small in a pot that big will not have used all the available nutrients - there shouldn't be any deficiency, not by a long chalk. Your medium looks dry and your plants look like they need/been needing water to me. What's your watering regime? How much, how often?
 
I have some 2 and a half week seedlings that look the same. I presume it's due to low humidity levels because the leaves feel dry and slightly hard to the touch. Leaves are suppose to feel soft and firm. Mine were under T5s until I switched to 250 MH a couple days ago. They still grow, aren't rotting or withering away, and new growth is looking better. Seems my solution was just to spray some water on the leaves throughout the day to keep moderate RH. Water, good circulation(which it sounds like you got), light, and attention. No need to over analyze. I have a similar setup in a closet.

Breedstick
 
The only reason you see deficiency is because they are starting to lock up, the only prob you have is the FFOF is to strong for plants that young you can tell by the dark fat puffy leaves that they have had enough, if you measure your run off I bet its way up there, flushem aton (anything below 200ppm)and they will perk right up, I have been using FFOF for over 5yrs, its good stuff but way to strong for youngins,,,,good luck
 

TwistedEvil

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Not against hydro, this is just my 2nd grow. I will probably look into hydro once I clone correctly this time...but, may still stick with soil anyway...may do both, haven't decided yet.

I don't know, 47-54 humidity should be ok, right? I have the babies in their home now and under a 1000watt light, I'd be afraid they would get light burned if I were to wet the leaves?

As far as FFOF, I used it from start to finish this past summer with my first round and nothing like this happened. I'm sure there are 'horror stories' with plant issues with any and all soils, soil less mix/es and hydro? Idk...different season (less humidity during winter) and different batch of soil and different seeds. I'm not saying FFoF hasn't been hard on little ones, just saying I didn't have these issues with the young ones....had a few learning curves whne they were in flowering, but that was on me.

When I transplanted yesterday, their roots were wound around pretty good..nice and white ( as much as they could be in 'dirt') so maybe it was time for them to get in their 'big girl' pots?
I watered them in good with distilled water 7.0 and the run off was 6.1 to the highest one of 6.3 I'm not sure if that is to soon and I should wait a few days then flush to check...but I checked it anyway. I'm not sure what the ppm would be, I have a digital PH reader pen....I just know the ph of the water I use and ph of the run off.

I have the light on 50% then after a few days I'll bring it up to 75% then finally to 100% just so they can get used to their new light.

I had a pm saying that size tent (6.5ft x6.5ft x6.5ft) I have isn't big enough for as many plants I have. I have 2 tents the same size, but some of these will be males and or hermis and or will not make it. So I figured this way (until I take clippings from the ones that are female) I will have a better chance of having a few good females to keep me medicated for awhile. Still a noob....and as stated, my attempt to clone my first girls went bad. I will not make the same mistakes this time cloning...knock on wood.

A few minutes after they were transplanted and watered in. Also added a little marble gravel to the bottom...suggested was pea gravel, but I don't think this will hurt?




 
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