PF tek: Cambodian Grow Report

Damn sorry to hear you lost your jars...
Yeah a pressure cooker sounds like a good idea, however, if you don't want to purchase one or aren't so fortunate as to already have one, such as myself, and you do choose to use a pot with a lid, I boiled for 2 solid hours with the lid on, and to make sure the jars didn't crack i put a thick cloth at the bottom of the pot so the glass of the jars didn't come in contact with the hot metal.

Also Achilles, you can try wearing those plastic gloves you get in boxes of like, 50 or 100 or whatever at any hardware store. That seemed to help me keep everything clean, too.

Well I'm glad to know I'm not alone in fucking up my first attempt massbaster! Especially after investing almost $100 in supplies (spores, substrate, fruiting chamber, hygrometer) it's a little disheartening to get poor results. But I am determined to get some to fruit.

I just ordered some golden teachers today. I'm going to finish up the 4 ccs or so left in my camodian syringe and move on to the teachers next.

but not much of a problem. i got four cakes out of 10 first time around.

got 20-25 mushrooms off them all. they were good cambodians. nice buzz.

i just could not get a second flush. ended up with green mold contam until had one cake left after 3 weeks waiting for start of second flush.

anyhow, tried some h2o2 and piece of cake for making syringe as well as piece of dried mushroom and h2o2 to make syringe.

results are poor at best, but at least i am getting to know my contaminants.

like i said, three more on the way and expect much better results this time.

AchillesLast said:

Well I'm glad to know I'm not alone in fucking up my first attempt massbaster! Especially after investing almost $100 in supplies (spores, substrate, fruiting chamber, hygrometer) it's a little disheartening to get poor results. But I am determined to get some to fruit.

I just ordered some golden teachers today. I'm going to finish up the 4 ccs or so left in my camodian syringe and move on to the teachers next.

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keep trying and also keep unused cc's in fridge. help last longer.


and as far as boiling goes, the first time i did it for 60-75 minutes and had no issues.
then for 90 the second time. both times i kept watching the wet towel and made sure it stayed wet throughout. keep trying, second time will be the charm for this stuff.

Nice good luck with the GT grow, I can't wait to follow it lol...
They give a nice little high.

I got a sudden headrush and was watching Alice in Wonderland beginning movie credits and all the letters were popping out of the screen lol!

last time I dropped acid I watched Alice in Wonderland. What a great flick for that kind of shit. I'm glad you had a fun time

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anyhow, tried some h2o2 and piece of cake for making syringe as well as piece of dried mushroom and h2o2 to make syringe

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can't go from cake to syringe

can go from cake to uncolonized jar

a really good/reliable method of fast, large scale propogation is:

1. buy 1 syringe
2. colonize ten 1pint PFTEK jars
3. transfer 1/4 of each colonize jar to a 1quart jar of your preferred grain
4. case/bulk spawn the colonized grain
5. fruit
6. be happy

it takes ~2months, but mushrooms will be everywhere...

So I hate to bump my old thread up, but it needed an update.

I haven't thrown away any of the red spotted jars yet. Curious, I know. But, oddly enough, the mycelium is overtaking the red spots! Some of my jars are around 40% colonized. I am not sure if I should be concerned that these mushrooms may be contaminated as well. However, it seems from shroomery.org that if the cake fruits, then it is most likely good to eat. I guess this is because if molds infect the cakes, then the mycelium will be too weak to produce and mushrooms and you'll only get aborts.

So long story short. I am going to hold onto these jars and see if the mycelium keeps growing.

PS I am sorry I am so lame about taking pictures, but all I have is this shitty webcam. I really need to bug my girlfriend for hers.

are the orange/red spots just exposed chunks of vermiculite?

vermiculite looks kind red/orange, and that would explain why mycellium is growing.

good luck, post some pictures.

Hey, so I finally got around to taking some pictures. I was going to take some earlier, but I figured the more time I left them, the more development might happen. My g/f lost her USB cable so I took them with my shitty webcam. Sorry about the quality but it gives a you a general idea on how my jars are coming.

So lets see, updates:

The red dots are still very present in my indoor jars. They are about the size of the tip of a sharpened pencil and are multiplying. I know it's a contam on some sort, however the strange thing is. The mycelium is just growing right over it. On one jar even, I circle some spots where the mycelium met these red dots to see if it would overtake them, and eventually it did. I am not sure what to make of these results.

Will I be safe to birth these after dunking in water/h202 ? Could they potentially contaiminate other cakes that do not have these red spots? Will the fruits be safe to eat you think?

I have 4 more jars I am incubating in my pool house. They are coming alonge PERFECTLY! No contaims and since its around 68-72 in there, the mycelium is poking through and starting to colonize these jars.

My only concern at the moment, is if these red spots mean bad cakes. The mycelium is powering through this contam in all but 1 jar.

Anyway, let's start with some pics.

Let's label the jars 1-10 starting from the upper left.

#1 This is jar A. You can see mycelium strands from the right side branching out into the orange dot area. I also sharpied and area of encircle mycelium by these mysterious orange dots. You can see that the mycelium is now out of circle and therefore must be overgrowing the orange dots.

#2 This is Jar A. You can see the mycelium growth on the other side of that jar. And even the difference in the lower portion (infested with orange dots) and the upper portion of dry vermiculite.

#3 This is Jar B. This jar is doing the poorest out of all the jars. I circle some of the orange dots with red in paint so you can see the contrast between the substrate material. Though Jar B is doing poorly, the mycelium is still growing. However, very slowly.

#4 This is Jar B. From the other side. This is the only patch of mycelium growing on this substrate jar.

#5 This is Jar C. This is jar is doing the best out of all the jars. It is about 70% colonized right now. The two sharpie spots are where the mycelium encircled the orange dots and eventually grew over them, covering them in white.

#6 This is Jar C. This is the only uncolonized portion of this jar. This portion does in deed have orange spots, but I'm hypothesizing that they will be overgrown by the mycelium.

#7 This is Jar C. This is a view from the bottom. When you enlarge this picture its very easy to tell that the substrate has orange dots as it has a very bright orange tint to the uncolonized substrate.

#8 This is Jar D. Average growth so far. By enlarging you see the contrast in substrate material. Some is brighter orange while some is dull.

#9 This is Jar D. Average growth. Good picture of the mycelium's wispy branches stretching out over the the uncolonized substrate.

#10 This is Jar D. I shot this picture to try and get a good contrast of substrate with and without orange dots. The center near the mycelium is very orange, while the area below it does not have much color.

If anyone has any suggestions on this orange invader please post. I am very much hoping these cakes are not contagious to other cakes or even worse, infecting the mycelium.

The main reason I am concerned because eventually I will get to the point that the good cakes growing in my pool house will need to get birthed into the same terrarium as these orange infected cakes.

Just be patient. The cambodian ones can take time. But when they start to show up they grow very fast

I was searching through shroomery.org today to see if I could find a possible explanation for these mysterious orange dots. I stumbled across this thread: alittle help - Mushroom Cultivation - Shroomery Message Board.

Sadly, it doesn't provide an explanation...but it shows some better quality pictures of the exact same problem I'm having.

do you have rusty spots on the jar lid or ring? pretty much all mine are rusty.

could it be rusty water dripping in while you're pressure cooking?

There were some rusty spots from boiling, however the only reason I don't think it's rust is because the orange dots are definitely spreading; they just aren't growing larger. They are all consistently about the size of a sharpened pencil tip.

Like I said, the mycelium seems to have no problem growing right over it so I am not sure if it's any cause for alarm. I just wish I could identify what the problem was so I could know where to go from there.

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There were some rusty spots from boiling, however the only reason I don't think it's rust is because the orange dots are definitely spreading; they just aren't growing larger. They are all consistently about the size of a sharpened pencil tip.

Like I said, the mycelium seems to have no problem growing right over it so I am not sure if it's any cause for alarm. I just wish I could identify what the problem was so I could know where to go from there.

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my first grow was cambodes.

i had orange spots or "staining" it was random and did not consume the jars or mycelium like a bacteria.

i birthed them and got mushrooms from the cakes. i may have a picture....
the first picture is of the brown or orange stain.

the other pictures are of cambodian mushrooms growing.

if the cakes are white, and the "stain" is not overtaking the cake, i would not worry about and just birth and see what happens.

my guess is the rice bled from excess water. you could put them into a seperate fruiting chamber and i would recommend using some h2o2 to help prevent more growth from the stain or anything else.

p.s. i searched high and low to find any info and could not so you are not alone. is did not seem to affect mine and i have already enjoyed the fruits of my labor. I just started 21 more cakes. three strains, 7 jars each. z,f and hawiian strains

Well guys I hav read your hole thread congrat guys how many does it take to get a buzz. Never see anything like that in indiana!!!!!!!! That would hav been gr8 for the metor shower that was two weeks ago tuesday>it was cool azz hell and I was not tripen.Good luck on future grows Later

of the ones you see in the pictures, i let them get a little bit bigger and then i was getting a good buzz of 2 for like 5-7 hours.....

real nice high, tingly buddy buzz from head to toes, numbing type sensations, kinda felt like jello.... real nice and enjoyable, especially from someone who could be prescribed as fully depressed,i like and cant wait to grow more.....

Quick Update:

I am very excited to say that one of my jars that had the "orange spot problem" is about 98% colonized and today I looked and found...two little tiny mushrooms! They are like an inch long and have dark brown caps. I found them making their way up the side of one of my jars. I am very excited! I have a feeling that my "orange spot crisis" will be gone once I got to fruit these jars. Seeing this little aborts has given me hope that my cakes will indeed flower!

I will be posting pics but tonight I am partying!

peace

Here are the pics as promised. Oh and since last post, one of the one inch mushies has grown to almost 3 inches! I am not sure if I should have birthed this one a long time ago.....I think I might be behind on this one. Anyway, if I do birth should i just pry this one off and dunk n roll still or is it a waste of effort at this point?

EDIT: that dark circle is a sharpie pen I used for highlighting something earlier in growth.