Perpetual Grow - DWC/Waterfarm 432wT5 Veg, 600w HPS Flower

So I went through a rash of like 4 large plants that died...all due to underfeeding believe it or not. I was trying to not overfeed and diagnosed something that looked it and wound up pulling back on nutes when it was actually a deficiency. Fun. So anyway, here is what I adjusted my feeding which has completely solved the issue.

Veg: H16 A+B, Bushdoctor beneficials, Humboldt Verde, Humboldt HydroDeuce, SeaCal, SeaMag, Z7, dechlorinator+

Bud: H16 A+B, Bushdoctor beneficials, Humboldt Ginormous, Humboldt HydroDeuce, SeaCal, SeaMag, Z7, dechlorinator+

So far zero issues and none of the stuff I had going on. They would be fine until late flower and then just slowly die as they starved to death for the stuff they needed to keep flowering. But, all better now. Jesus.

Critical Hog just exploding. Really pumped to get a nice one of these flowered out.



This is a top view of the plants under the HPS. Back right is Dinafem Cheese (starting week 5) looking swoll with it. Front is White Lavender just put into flower. And the back left is the THSeeds Critical Hog (starting week 3)



Shot of the Cheese buds forming up nicely.



Looking good!

Stem shot for effect

I have three plants under the LED as well. I have a huge Desert Diesel (HSO) that is in a waterfarm and looks incredible. The skinny one in the corner is a very cool Kosher Kush from RP. The pheno I have is very stretchy, almost vine growth that I have had to control wit constant training so their stalks and branches are all twisted and bent and shit. It's kind of cool actually. I will try and get some good pics so you can see. They are funky and smell like pinesol to the max. The one on the left is a THSeeds Sage n Sour that I am finishing out. She has about 3 weeks to go and is bulking up like crazy. It's kind of a chore getting pics under the LED so the pics are not the best, but the plants love that thing.

Sorry to hear of the dead plants man, I know you take meticulous care with your girls so it sucks to hear it was something as simple as not enough food i feel for you bro!

Your new girls are looking great too man, nice and green

I think I'll be getting a mars 2 as well, did you say yours was the 700w with the full spectrum? I reckon that may be best for my little box

Thanks Easty! Live and learn right? Ha ha. Mine is the 900w full spectrum.

That's it bro, we all have to learn hey I've learnt the hard way lol.
Cool as man, cheers for that, will put it my order next week
So do you use youra for veg as well? Mind if i ask what distance you have the light away from the tops if you do?

eastcoastmo said:

That's it bro, we all have to learn hey I've learnt the hard way lol.
Cool as man, cheers for that, will put it my order next week
So do you use youra for veg as well? Mind if i ask what distance you have the light away from the tops if you do?

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I have it as high as I can get it. I think they recommend like 2-4 feet above the canopy - different thinking than HID lighting for sure. I have had LEDs too close to flowering plants and it bleaches the hell out of them.

So, in veg I use the Reflector 300w (same manufacturer and website as the Mars II). I run it in Veg mode which cuts out quite a bit of the red and has a lot of blue and white with IR. My plants dig it. It actually is full spectrum with switches for bloom and veg mode. You can run one, the other or both. Both switches = "full spectrum" which is the same wavelength as the Mars II (however the Mars doesn't have switches, you order the model you want, I have the "standard" spectrum which is "full", kind of confusing). I run my veg light with just the veg switch on which brings the draw down to around 125w ish. No heat. Thing rules.

Here are four fairly large plants underneath it (G13 Purple Haze, Dinafem Cheese (in water farm), HSO Desert Diesel and THSeeds Critical Hog). I probably have more plants under it than they would recommend - but look at them! I just turn them and they bend and move like crazy. The leaf development is what you notice, it just grows big, thick, green leaves. And when you top them it's like Bam!, those nodes just start growing immediately. I really think replacing my T5 with two of them would be a good move.

If you zoom in on those pics you can see the stem and node development. These have all been under this light for weeks and don't really have any other supplemental lighting. The canopy is about 43-ish inches from the floor and the light is about 18-20" from the canopy which is not ideal. I am raising it today to make sure it is more like 28" if possible.

Nice man!! That reflector light is cool too hey! Really nice looking girls Duud

Cheers for the detailed response too mate, very much appreciate it!! Im thinking of using the full spec mars and supplementing with 5x 24w daylight cfls, the cfls seem to give off just enough blue spectrum to help them grow nicely and then swap em out with warm whites for flowering should work ok i hope!
But man, you're growing some very nice ladies hey

The Dinafem Cheese is a really sticky, beautiful plant. Definitely recommend this strain so far. Haven't sampled her or flowered the strain out before so I am excited to see how she performs overall. Super vigorous and I have another seed grown plant and another clone of this plant.

Here is the Critical Hog. Just bulking up nicely.

The White Lavender is gorgeously Indica in its look so far. Just starting to blossom. Hope for some really White Widow leaning stuff out of her.

The Kosher Kush is a tower of small, but rock hard buds. Super sticky that smell like very powerful Pine-Sol and taste a little lemony if you taste the resin off your finger after touching her.

Here are the White Lavender, Critical Hog and Cheese all cozied up under the HPS.

Beautiful as always Duud very chunky lookin girls my man!!

Hey man I pulled pin and got a 700w mars, damn she puts out some light lol. In such a small box, I hope it isnt overkill ha ha.
Anyway, pic for you taken through my LED glasses

eastcoastmo said:

Hey man I pulled pin and got a 700w mars, damn she puts out some light lol. In such a small box, I hope it isnt overkill ha ha.
Anyway, pic for you taken through my LED glasses View attachment 3303884

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Oh man, that is amazing! Can't wait to see the results. They should love it. Get it up as high as it will go and you should be good to go.

Dinafem Cheese @ Day 49

T H Seeds Critical Hog @ Day 35. Just long, round, fat, chunky buds all over this lady. I am super impressed by her.

Kosher Kush @ Day 56. Going to let her go another week. Weird pheno. Very stretchy, growth with very compact and dense buds. They are heavy and make her lean over if not propped up, but nothing like the Cheese or CH in size.