Perpetual Grow - DWC/Waterfarm 432wT5 Veg, 600w HPS Flower

duudical

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  • Sour Diesel @ day 35 of flower. Developing some nice, sticky buds. Even the smaller stuff is just greasy as hell. Looking like the yield should be decent. Planning on a full 10 weeks at least so lots of time for her to get nice and chubby...just the way I like 'em :hump:
She's just looking awesome, covered in glass when you shine a normal light on her.

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duudical

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Have a 900w LED (180 x 5w) coming tomorrow which will allow me to use the other 4x4 section of my tent. Going to put the following into flower:

(3) Bubba Kush (all clones of the one currently flowering and all super healthy and big) - they are all in coco/growstones

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(1) Sage N Sour in a water farm bucket. She is the first plant I attempted to mainline and she took to it perfectly. From what I can surmise from forum posts about this strain this size should produce a very large plant in flower. We shall see :)

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duudical

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Some shots of the veg area:

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Back left: Green Crack
Back right: Critical Hog
Middle left: Bubba Kush
Middle right: Emdog
Front left: Desert Diesel
Front right: Sage n Sour

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Trainwreck, couple of Bubba Kush, Cheese, Purple Haze, Sage n Sour, Sugar Black Rose, Blue Dream
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HSO Amherst Sour Diesel. I am in love with her. She looks cool I think. I didn't top her or train her at all on purpose to get a look at a plant that you just let go the way of nature (ish):

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And here is an HSO Amherst Sour Diesel. She is really starting to look great. I mainlined her as well. Kind of. I didn't prune off everything but the eight tips like true mainlining involves, but she does have a lot of great looking tops developing:

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duudical

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My Bubba Kush is at day 59 of flower. With some guidance from another grower's experience on RIU (sxlstew) looks like she could go as long as 11 weeks. Mine is definitely not ripe yet, going to just let her go and not get impatient. her buds look freaking dope up close. So crystally and really tight calyxes that are just started to swell a little. Excited to see how she finishes off. At first I was kind of nervous since I have some great looking plants that are clones of this one and if it was a dud I was going to be pissed ha ha.

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duudical

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Finally was able to get another light in the tent to expand the number of plants in flower. Put four plants under this 900w (180 x 5w) LED. I have had great results with the 3w version in veg and wanted to test out this more powerful light in flower. If I can get similar results to my lower wattage HPS I am trading that thing in....dealing with the heat is a pain in the ass. Plus, I like the cost savings. This thing basically draws about 400w - that's less than my 4' T5 and way less than the 600w HPS.

The plants are (3) Bubba Kush and a Sage n Sour (front right)

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eastcoastmo

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Bloody hell man, there's no stopping you hey! Unreal veg and flowering girls bro, hats off to you on a fine setup and plants mate :-D
Might have to get my bubba kush going next too, she looks very dank ;)
 

eastcoastmo

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Hey man, since you have some experience with LED's, can you recommend me a good 300w? Is it better to go with 5w bulbs or do 3w work just as well? Thanks bro :)
 

PetFlora

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After growing for a couple years under 432 hot5 mixing bulbs, ala, leds, getting vg results, but not 600 hps results, I have been research leds ever since buying it

A couple weeks ago I received a BML SPYDR (on extended loan) to do a grow from seedling - harvest

Currently using it in place of my hot5 to finish a grow

I was able to choose my own spectrums. Mine looks like 600w hps color


Said to be 600 watt equivalent, but pulling ~ 375w (don't have a kilo meter)

http://www.bmlhorticulture.com/multi-bar-fixtures/

Come by to watch the show
 

duudical

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Bloody hell man, there's no stopping you hey! Unreal veg and flowering girls bro, hats off to you on a fine setup and plants mate :-D
Might have to get my bubba kush going next too, she looks very dank ;)
Thanks man! Really pleased with how things are right now. And I have a lot of new (to me) strains going too so I am pumped :) Trying to get them a little larger in veg just to push to the limits and see what is kind of the mark I am trying to hit. Differs a little strain to strain for sure, but I have more room than I am using so I am trying to fill her up! Ha!

And the Bubba Kush is beautiful. Wish she was more along the lines of 9 weeks like the info said, but whatever, she look great and is starting to smell more and more so I think she is just a late developer. The buds are really solid though and reading some other grow journals around that strain on here I have seen people with the same results and they say it is worth it to let her go - much better and heavier than she looks apparently.

God I love these plants. So much variety, how could you ever get bored? :)
 

duudical

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After growing for a couple years under 432 hot5 mixing bulbs, ala, leds, getting vg results, but not 600 hps results, I have been research leds ever since buying it

A couple weeks ago I received a BML SPYDR (on extended loan) to do a grow from seedling - harvest

Currently using it in place of my hot5 to finish a grow

I was able to choose my own spectrums. Mine looks like 600w hps color


Said to be 600 watt equivalent, but pulling ~ 375w (don't have a kilo meter)

http://www.bmlhorticulture.com/multi-bar-fixtures/

Come by to watch the show
Dude. Sounds killer. I am so in.
 

duudical

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After growing for a couple years under 432 hot5 mixing bulbs, ala, leds, getting vg results, but not 600 hps results, I have been research leds ever since buying it

A couple weeks ago I received a BML SPYDR (on extended loan) to do a grow from seedling - harvest

Currently using it in place of my hot5 to finish a grow

I was able to choose my own spectrums. Mine looks like 600w hps color


Said to be 600 watt equivalent, but pulling ~ 375w (don't have a kilo meter)

http://www.bmlhorticulture.com/multi-bar-fixtures/

Come by to watch the show
I have used LEDs in some form or fashion the whole three years I have grown. Yeah...a whole three years. Ha ha! Which doesn't really qualify me for shit, but here's my 2 cents on my LED experience. Started with UFOs just knowing nothing. they actually grew really great weed in a small tent. Bulky, medium-dense colas of some of the stickiest ganja. Their wavelengths sucked, they ran hotter than the latest models, but they worked if you used them within their intended limitations. I now am running a 300w reflector LED (has bloom and veg modes, running in veg only, draws about 115w). My plants love this thing, They grow big green leaves and put on nodes at a good clip under it. I would say they have about the same response as under the 432w T5 (all 6500k bulbs, nothing customer or fancy wavelength wise). The one I have in veg was a test really. It was under $200 and I was expecting complete crap. But no, it works awesome. I could flip the bloom switch on and get more of a "full" spectrum with all 11 bands at full strength, but after asking around on many forums dealing with the same light, everyone said that there would be no difference in veg, so less $ to run :). The one I just installed for flower is made by the same company and was $350 bucks, so I said f*ck it and decided to give it a try. This one is has 5w diodes and there are 180 of them (900w). It covers the 4x4 area pretty well, but could be raised a tad (its about 21 inches off the canopy now, should probably be more like 24-26 - LEDs are different in this regard, especially with the higher wattage diodes); this is the full spectrum model meaning it also has the 11 bands all at full power. These are the same bands you see used on lights that cost $1200 for 450w models. So this is really and experiment. I don't know what to expect (other than the great results I have seen from others using this exact light, I am hoping for the same) but I have some really healthy plants under there that have a good start so should be a good little test.
 

eastcoastmo

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Man, cheers for the detailed response hey, after seeing your results im pretty much sold on the LED! My choice was between a 250w CMH or the 300w LED and i reckon the LED will work better :)
 
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