Penn To Obama on Marijuana "he would not be president under his policies"

you guys know your shit..thanks for all the info...am hoping to buy some land in 2 years and start a hobby farm and pretty much live off the land...i love it up here already and land is real cheap...there is a gov grant for 500 k to organic farmers that i am interested in.... now the corn seeds i bought are BURPEE silver choice hybrid and sweet sunshine hybrid...76 days til maturity...so if i plant now it will be done in 76 days?...that is what i assumed and did not start these yet because i want them to hide my other garden..like a fence ...so i want them up til mid october..ya know? i also got sunflower seeds by BURPEE as well mammoth 12 footers..

desert dude said:

So, I am supposed to vote for a politician who doesn't enact policies that I want enacted because I am afraid some other politician might get elected and not enact policies I want enacted? Such is the bizarre thinking of the Obama fellators.

Here is a better idea: If a politician fails to respect a fundamental precept of liberty, the right to own your own body, then vote against him. The only way to make politicians take a liberal (the classic liberal sort, not the state worshiping progressive sort) stance is send the fucker packing when he sides with the stazi. All of this, "he can't do anything because of congress, or, he won't fuck us quite so hard in his second term" blather is simple-minded, or dishonest.

If you believe in basic liberties, then you can't vote for Obama or Romney. It is that simple.

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the self righteous desert douche is at it again.

With careful management corn can yeild all summer and into fall. basically, save the tassel! collect as much of the big pollen packets as you can off the tassel, and keep in a loosely covered jar in a dark place. pollinate your nodes, and save the rest. when you harvest some ears, pollinate more nodes. rinse and repeat! you can keep getting more corn till the frosts kill it. Also if you are planning to use corn to hide cannabis, bad plan! corn draws lotsa wildlife that doesnt hurt corn but will eat cannabis (aphids LOVE corn as a hiding place but not as food, so youll be making your dope into a kwik-e-mart for the little bastards) corn grows tall, but many types of cannabis get MUCH taller especially outside. youll need a very thick screen to hide the dope (radically different colour and shape from corn) and corn is super greedy about water and nutrients. cannabis needs way less water, so your corn will perish from thirst or your dope will be all fungusy. Tomato plants are a better concealment for your ganja from above (helicopters are always searching!) just mix em up and keep them all blending together. For a ground level screen, bamboo, boxwood hedges or a wood fence will keep nosy neighbors at bay better than corn. anything that might lead to a neighbor or just a greedy passer by to pick some produce will lead them right to your cannabis

Dr Kynes said:

artichoke? man, you crazy!!! i planted artichoke once, NEVER AGAIN!

My strawberries are by the fence with a bird netting over em (with aluminium foil tags here and there so the birds dont get tangled up) why you growin roma tomatoes? beefsteak and supersteaks are where the flavor lives! and the purple cheyennes are sweeeeeeeeet!

I got:
Genovese Basil
French Parsley
Lemon Thyme (delicious and super popular at the market!!)
French Lavender
Italian Parsley
Bee Balm
Rosemary
Oregano
Peppermint
Chocolate Mint
Winter Mint
Mesculin (lettuce not cactus)
Red Leaf Lettuce
Arugula
Butter Lettuce
Chard
Spinach
Strawberries (4 types)
Stevia (experimental, gonna try cooking it into a syrup like agave)
Pineapple (2 year experimental indoor/outdoor project)
Passionfruit
Muskmelon
Watermelon (sugarbaby and black globe)
Elephant Garlic
Chives
White Onions
Shallots (neighbor's dog dug these up)
Tomatoes (Beefsteak, Supersteak, Big Boy, Better Boy, Celebrity, Sweet 100 Cherry, Cheyenne Purple, and soon, Mr Stripey!)
Potatoes (just russets)
Carrots
Kaffir Lime
Black Cherry
Apricot
Almond
Lemon (improved meyer and ponderosa)
Prickly Pear Cactus (delicious but extremely aggressive in expansion and a pain in the ass to harvest)
Grape (flame and thompson seedless table grapes second year so prolly not much yet)

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awesome lineup!

i saw them growing a small patch of prickly pear cactus in the middle of the san joaquin valley alongside the I-5, the patch was small enough that my wife and i figured it was for the mexicans who were likely working the rest of the land. looks like fun to grow, wish i had the climate for it.

and i almost forgot that i do have a citrus meyeri as well sitting out front. i got it as a dead pile of uprooted twigs and replanted it, trimmed it back until i found green in the stems. sure enough, it regenerated last year and we just got our first blossoms this year, so fruit is not far behind.

i only did those two types of tomatoes because i went from seed this year and didn't think i'd have much success, but got nearly a dozen. that's all my tomato patch can hold and they'll be crowded as hell. might pick up another type from the farmer's market still and throw it somewhere in the yard, who knows.

and the birds i was referring to who steal our strawberries are the chickens and the ducks. they usually get them a day or two before they are ripe, so i have some stacked up high for my wife and i to enjoy.

UncleBuck said:

the self righteous desert douche is at it again.

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Weak response is weak.

Harrekin said:

Weak response is weak.

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fair enough. but he is self righteous as fuck.

without going into too much detail.....i plant on growing corn as more like a fence to block the view from 2 angles....so more like a barrier...the corn will only be 6 feet wide by 6 feet long on one side....and 6x6 on the other...not worried about air..if they see it they see it..doubtful...i have few neighbors and the grow is small and will be topped and the tallest plant will be 4.5 feet ....i can control watering with a hose...the aphids being attracted to corn scares me though...my plants will be 5 feet from the corn patch

Corso312 said:

without going into too much detail.....i plant on growing corn as more like a fence to block the view from 2 angles....so more like a barrier...the corn will only be 6 feet wide by 6 feet long on one side....and 6x6 on the other...not worried about air..if they see it they see it..doubtful...i have few neighbors and the grow is small and will be topped and the tallest plant will be 4.5 feet ....i can control watering with a hose...the aphids being attracted to corn scares me though...my plants will be 5 feet from the corn patch

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my greenhouse is only 10 feet away from my corn, never saw an aphid all last year except on the rose bushes out front.

the real concern will be bud worms, make sure to spray preventatively with BT while in veg.

Corso312 said:

without going into too much detail.....i plant on growing corn as more like a fence to block the view from 2 angles....so more like a barrier...the corn will only be 6 feet wide by 6 feet long on one side....and 6x6 on the other...not worried about air..if they see it they see it..doubtful...i have few neighbors and the grow is small and will be topped and the tallest plant will be 4.5 feet ....i can control watering with a hose...the aphids being attracted to corn scares me though...my plants will be 5 feet from the corn patch

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UncleBuck said:

awesome lineup!

i saw them growing a small patch of prickly pear cactus in the middle of the san joaquin valley alongside the I-5, the patch was small enough that my wife and i figured it was for the mexicans who were likely working the rest of the land. looks like fun to grow, wish i had the climate for it.

and i almost forgot that i do have a citrus meyeri as well sitting out front. i got it as a dead pile of uprooted twigs and replanted it, trimmed it back until i found green in the stems. sure enough, it regenerated last year and we just got our first blossoms this year, so fruit is not far behind.

i only did those two types of tomatoes because i went from seed this year and didn't think i'd have much success, but got nearly a dozen. that's all my tomato patch can hold and they'll be crowded as hell. might pick up another type from the farmer's market still and throw it somewhere in the yard, who knows.

and the birds i was referring to who steal our strawberries are the chickens and the ducks. they usually get them a day or two before they are ripe, so i have some stacked up high for my wife and i to enjoy.

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Prickly pear fruits are deep purpleish red when ripe and taste somewhere between a plum and a strawberry, sweet and tangy both. but they are covered with spines, both big nasty ones and the tiny hairlike insidious ones. If you are anywhere on the west coast you can grow them, doesnt have to be desert. They even grow in San Francisco and Napa Valley the green parts are really popular in mexico too, pickled as "Nopales" but i like the fruits.

To pick them you need a pole picker (basket with a hook on a long handle) a fire and a long blade. Hook the fruit over the basket, and cut it free. catch the fruit in the basket and turn it around inside the flaames of the fire to burn off the hairlike spines but dont burn the fruit or cook it, then just snip off the dozen or so big thorns and your ready to chill, peel and eat, or make a pie, or jam, or whatever!

they spread out like craxy, and if you dont keep em cut back they get HUGE (15-20 feet tall, and dozens of yards across) they are best grown against a solid fence or wall(so they cant spread in all directions) in full sun. One fresh nopale from the market can grow in a few years to produce fruit. the downside, they need huge volume to make each fruit, and only do it at best once a year (some years not at all) a 10 x10x10 foot plant will make maybe 10-15 fruits in a good year. Thats why i get most of mine picked wild (plant em by a nearby railway track, and let nature take it's course) and only keep a small one in my yard for fun. plus some years fresh nopales will sell pretty good. depends how the harvest in mexico went, and how many get shipped to my area.

if you stake down your bird nets or chicken wire with poultry crampons you can keep your chucks and quackers on the right side of the fence. Thats what i did for my mom's garden this year.

UncleBuck said:

my greenhouse is only 10 feet away from my corn, never saw an aphid all last year except on the rose bushes out front.

the real concern will be bud worms, make sure to spray preventatively with BT while in veg.

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Why don't you use neem? It's a persistent pesticide that kills the eggs and prevents pests from becoming a problem to begin with. Also, small amounts of fumed silica acts as a repellant for leaf and stalk eating pests.

UncleBuck said:

my greenhouse is only 10 feet away from my corn, never saw an aphid all last year except on the rose bushes out front.

the real concern will be bud worms, make sure to spray preventatively with BT while in veg.

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aphids aint very clever. they rarely get inside a greenhouse unless somebody brings in a plant from outdoors. they sure do travel on the wind from corn though. when i grow corn i keep it well away from my tomatoes, and downwind as well. my area is heavy with peach aphids who really love tomatoes and cannabis, as well as tobacco white flies.

almost every plant eating bug can be controlled with liberal application of a hotpepper spray

in a saucepan on the stove, simmer

3 cups water
a large handful of peppermint leaves and stems
6 cloves fresh garlic finely minced (no powdered garlic! it doesnt work)
3 tablespoons (or more) cayenne pepper flakes

simmer for 45 minutes strain through a cloth (piece of old T-shirt works good) let cool and pour into sprayer addd 1 tablespoon biodegradable dish soap, top off sprayer with water put on a dust mask and ski goggles (super important) and SPAY EVERYWHERE!
wash hands thoroughly with soap before touching eyes mouth genitals or butthole (really really hot stuff)

it's non toxic (just spicy as hell) and washes off with water easily do not use on your buds unless youre a masochist. wash any produce before eating. and seriously, wash hands with soap before wiping your ass or holding your dick.

once a week will keep aphids slugs snails and whiteflies in check like a motherfucker.

Warning: may attract Hispanic, Thai, and Punjabi cuisine aficionados. do not store near salsa fixins or noodles and shrimp.

when is the latest you spray that tobacco spray? 2 weeks into flowering?.......@ herekin ..i dunno what that is...but i think we are on the same page

Corso312 said:

when is the latest you spray that tobacco spray? 2 weeks into flowering?.......@ herekin ..i dunno what that is...but i think we are on the same page

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tobacco sprays can be deadly to some plants, like tomatoes. Tobacco is a huge repository for tomato leaf curl virus, among others most large tomato growers dont allow tobacco products in their fields, neither smoked nor chewed. Nicotine can enter some plant's systems, killing them (tomatoes dont mind nicotine, but many plants just croak) or making you sick, or possibly hilariously addicted to broccoli (just kidding). I used a tobacco spray years ago and lost several plants overnight. as i recall, parsley carrots basil and some really young roses just snuffed it, so i havent used it since.

Hot pepper spray is safer, and mostly harmless. other than that sevin dust is good up till flowering/fruiting of edible/smokeable plants and neem oil has a good reputation. i never used that.

ahh i meant tobasco

i use neem but i am finding caterpillars (i think) they are super tiny on my plants ..right after i hit em with neem/dish soap solution...in illinois neemed worked pretty good but i think i need to mix up some of that garlic/tobasco you mentioned...my place is in the country now and more bugs

Corso312 said:

i use neem but i am finding caterpillars (i think) they are super tiny on my plants ..right after i hit em with neem/dish soap solution...in illinois neemed worked pretty good but i think i need to mix up some of that garlic/tobasco you mentioned...my place is in the country now and more bugs

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dont use tabasco, it has vinegar and sugars. it will fuck up your ph, burn your plants and feed fungus.

use cayenne pepper flakes (every pizza parlour in the civilized world has them on hand, and they are cheap in supermarkets) you can spray this shit any time on even thin skinned fruits, i sprayed this morning and ate fresh strawberries this afternoon, just rinse em first

on cannabis, dont spray into the buds. youll never be able to rinse it our of the nooks and crannies without washing away your trichomes you can spray your foliage any time. this stuff is just really spicy hotsauce, but if you smoke dope with this stuff in it, youll be hating life. I wouldnt spray this any time after the buds start popping, just from a flavour standpoint. Due to it's sticky and hold everything it catches nature cannabis buds are really hard to pesticide once the buds start opening up. cannabis is not my area of expertise, but on any plant you can rinse off, before eating the cayenne pepper spray works like magic. even my herbs and strawberries get it.

Corso312 said:

i use neem but i am finding caterpillars (i think) they are super tiny on my plants ..right after i hit em with neem/dish soap solution...in illinois neemed worked pretty good but i think i need to mix up some of that garlic/tobasco you mentioned...my place is in the country now and more bugs

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got a picture of the caterpillars? theres a few beneficial critters that look like caterpillars

example: all of these


will turn into this!

!

and this sexy lil whore eats the crap out of aphids in every stage of it's life! I live in a heavy ag area so pesticides have wiped out ladybugs in my area, if i had these i wouldnt need the pepper spray!

this thing was like 1/4 inch long and dark gray or black...have been seeing holes on leaves and check the plants couple ties a day to see what is doing it..found one today...it was like the thickness of a needle...going to dunk the ones in pots tomorrow with dishsoap n water and try to wash anything off.

look at the pictures above. ladybird larvae (voracious eaters of plant pests) look like you describe. 1/4 inch to 3/8 inch long, sometimes fat sometimes skinny, dark coloured, sometimes spotted sometimes plain, kinda furry with 6 lil legs peeking out. if you got big holes in your leaves (bout half an inch or bigger) snails slugs and big caterpillars are the suspects. Earwigs can also nom your foliage too (holes less than half an inch, usually more like 1/4 inch). they hide like cowards during the day. before you dunk, use the cayenne pepper spray unless you are already flowering. anything that bites your plant will either croak, or leave the area as fast as it's feet will carry it. It also discourages deer and other browsing animals too.