Peak Weed

torontoke

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Most people including jamaicans have thought and acted like it was already legal there. When i went a few years ago it was $50 us a lb.
we got stopped in a cab going through one of the small towns by what looked like the army and they searched the cab found a small ball of hash in my buddies pocket. Told us we could empty our wallets or go to jail. Nothing like being robbed by 6 guys with m16s to make me want to go back lol.
Tbh i always found the outdoor jamrock bud to be one step up from the ol mexican brickweed anyway i have no intention to ever go back.
 

Gquebed

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It's funny to see that number...I said an estimate of a million two years ago.
Just curious... how did you come up with that number? Or, based on what?

It seems quite high to me. Would that be both licensed and unlicensed medical users?
 

gb123

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Most people including jamaicans have thought and acted like it was already legal there. When i went a few years ago it was $50 us a lb.
we got stopped in a cab going through one of the small towns by what looked like the army and they searched the cab found a small ball of hash in my buddies pocket. Told us we could empty our wallets or go to jail. Nothing like being robbed by 6 guys with m16s to make me want to go back lol.
Tbh i always found the outdoor jamrock bud to be one step up from the ol mexican brickweed anyway i have no intention to ever go back.
At least you stopped.
The last time I was there 30 years back they shot a tourist that didn't stop.
He was pissed off that he'd been stopped by the same ARMY lol.. 5 times and just drove on by when they told him to ................STOP!............

They missed and hit him in the shoulder. :lol: He lived.
Bad aim I guess.. ;)
 

The Hippy

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I have never been to Jamaica. Funny thing about that place is it seems to be the number of ugly stories I've heard. Of course lots of great vacations happen there, but I've also heard some real nightmare type stories as well.
Seems like things can go bad there pretty quick at times....I dunno. Just an observation. Lots of shady folks ripping visitors who were looking for some smoke.
Anyway with legalization there I wonder how it will be now.
I imagine a lot of folks will want to go for the weed alone. Can NON Jamaicans smoke there legally ?
 

doingdishes

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I have never been to Jamaica. Funny thing about that place is it seems to be the number of ugly stories I've heard. Of course lots of great vacations happen there, but I've also heard some real nightmare type stories as well.
Seems like things can go bad there pretty quick at times....I dunno. Just an observation. Lots of shady folks ripping visitors who were looking for some smoke.
Anyway with legalization there I wonder how it will be now.
I imagine a lot of folks will want to go for the weed alone. Can NON Jamaicans smoke there legally ?
lets ask the Coalition...weren't they just there?
 

leaffan

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Just curious... how did you come up with that number? Or, based on what?

It seems quite high to me. Would that be both licensed and unlicensed medical users?
I had to do a market analysis for an LP feasibility report.
It was based on population densities, the bulk of the data came from US states that had reporting criteria for their medical marijuana programs. It wasn't easy because some data wasn't available, like California that doesn't have a state registry.
Also the big problem was that these numbers were coming from a country where medical marijuana programs were not recognized.
Anyways, based on data it showed the mature Canadian market to be at 1 mil, not the 400k odd Health Canada was stating. Just look at Michigan for example, over 100k patients just in that state.
The 1mil # was projected patients that would actually sign up to a program.
You have to ask....what or who is a patient?...Not talking just about aids, cancer, and pain...
 

Gquebed

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I had to do a market analysis for an LP feasibility report.
It was based on population densities, the bulk of the data came from US states that had reporting criteria for their medical marijuana programs. It wasn't easy because some data wasn't available, like California that doesn't have a state registry.
Also the big problem was that these numbers were coming from a country where medical marijuana programs were not recognized.
Anyways, based on data it showed the mature Canadian market to be at 1 mil, not the 400k odd Health Canada was stating. Just look at Michigan for example, over 100k patients just in that state.
The 1mil # was projected patients that would actually sign up to a program.
You have to ask....what or who is a patient?...Not talking just about aids, cancer, and pain...

Well.... I'm not sure how US numbers would relate or be relevant to Canada.

I think a better way to go at this would be to look at medical statistics by province and match then pro-rate those against the afflictions for which HC approved med mari. IE: say, just for argument sake 10k glaucoma suffers in the province of Alberta + 50k arthritis + 5k crohns and so on until you get your total. Then pro-rate for how many of those diagnosed patients would be likely to use marijuana as a med. In bible belt Alberta/Sask that percentage would be much lower than in BC or Ont. Then maybe you could add to that for what illness might be approved in the future and factor in an increase for attitudes that change over time as the med becomes more prevalent and therefore socially acceptable.

I dunno.... no matter how you cut it, 1 mil seems very optimistic.

But IMHO we are missing the boat by focusing on med mari. We should be pushing just as hard for rec mari, like Colorado did. It is a far more honest argument...
 

Gmack420

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I have never been to Jamaica. Funny thing about that place is it seems to be the number of ugly stories I've heard. Of course lots of great vacations happen there, but I've also heard some real nightmare type stories as well.
Seems like things can go bad there pretty quick at times....I dunno. Just an observation. Lots of shady folks ripping visitors who were looking for some smoke.
Anyway with legalization there I wonder how it will be now.
I imagine a lot of folks will want to go for the weed alone. Can NON Jamaicans smoke there legally ?
You need a local fixer to be with you the whole time you're off the resort/gated compound you're staying at.
 

leaffan

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Well.... I'm not sure how US numbers would relate or be relevant to Canada.

I think a better way to go at this would be to look at medical statistics by province and match then pro-rate those against the afflictions for which HC approved med mari. IE: say, just for argument sake 10k glaucoma suffers in the province of Alberta + 50k arthritis + 5k crohns and so on until you get your total. Then pro-rate for how many of those diagnosed patients would be likely to use marijuana as a med. In bible belt Alberta/Sask that percentage would be much lower than in BC or Ont. Then maybe you could add to that for what illness might be approved in the future and factor in an increase for attitudes that change over time as the med becomes more prevalent and therefore socially acceptable.

I dunno.... no matter how you cut it, 1 mil seems very optimistic.

But IMHO we are missing the boat by focusing on med mari. We should be pushing just as hard for rec mari, like Colorado did. It is a far more honest argument...
I'd be very interested in seeing what # you come up with.
 

torontoke

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I have never been to Jamaica. Funny thing about that place is it seems to be the number of ugly stories I've heard. Of course lots of great vacations happen there, but I've also heard some real nightmare type stories as well.
Seems like things can go bad there pretty quick at times....I dunno. Just an observation. Lots of shady folks ripping visitors who were looking for some smoke.
Anyway with legalization there I wonder how it will be now.
I imagine a lot of folks will want to go for the weed alone. Can NON Jamaicans smoke there legally ?
Everyone that wants to smoke there can. Even in the resorts u cant swing a dead cat without someone offering to sell you weed.
All the good vacations u hear about are probably from the people that stay in their resort the entire time.
Thats the safest too but if you leave the resort than you plan to be fleeced even if you have someone to mediate with the roadside bandits lol.
All he will do is negotiate an acceptable toll.
I will never go back thats for sure it hurt to much watching the people outside the resorts living in structures made of aluminum siding and worse.
 

Doobius1

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I think theres more than a million real med users. Most of my elderly friends are not signed into either program and use mj daily. My bro grows a few to make into olive oil lotions.
Anybody using a few puffs for stress relief, insomnia, daily aches and pains etc... Its all medical even if you are not signed up to some stupid program
 

Doobius1

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Everyone that wants to smoke there can. Even in the resorts u cant swing a dead cat without someone offering to sell you weed.
All the good vacations u hear about are probably from the people that stay in their resort the entire time.
Thats the safest too but if you leave the resort than you plan to be fleeced even if you have someone to mediate with the roadside bandits lol.
All he will do is negotiate an acceptable toll.
I will never go back thats for sure it hurt to much watching the people outside the resorts living in structures made of aluminum siding and worse.
I went to JA about 20 years. Wont go back.
Go for a swim, dudes seadoo up to you while you are swimming trying to sell you weed. Come in from the swim, towel girl tries to sell you weed..go to the bar....you get the point. I was hassled at least 100 times in a week and they just pull the worst garbage out for the tourists.
 

doingdishes

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I went to JA about 20 years. Wont go back.
Go for a swim, dudes seadoo up to you while you are swimming trying to sell you weed. Come in from the swim, towel girl tries to sell you weed..go to the bar....you get the point. I was hassled at least 100 times in a week and they just pull the worst garbage out for the tourists.
that's what i wondered-if their MJ was any good but at $50 a LB, how good can it be?
 

WHATFG

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Well.... I'm not sure how US numbers would relate or be relevant to Canada.

I think a better way to go at this would be to look at medical statistics by province and match then pro-rate those against the afflictions for which HC approved med mari. IE: say, just for argument sake 10k glaucoma suffers in the province of Alberta + 50k arthritis + 5k crohns and so on until you get your total. Then pro-rate for how many of those diagnosed patients would be likely to use marijuana as a med. In bible belt Alberta/Sask that percentage would be much lower than in BC or Ont. Then maybe you could add to that for what illness might be approved in the future and factor in an increase for attitudes that change over time as the med becomes more prevalent and therefore socially acceptable.

I dunno.... no matter how you cut it, 1 mil seems very optimistic.

But IMHO we are missing the boat by focusing on med mari. We should be pushing just as hard for rec mari, like Colorado did. It is a far more honest argument...
HC should have been keeping those stats. It has to be through med patients that we reach legalization...it is a very dangerous drug that needs to be controlled.
 

Gquebed

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HC should have been keeping those stats. It has to be through med patients that we reach legalization...it is a very dangerous drug that needs to be controlled.
I would say there are far more dangerous drugs widely available that are far more dangerous the weed. Alcohol tops that list. Acetominephen, ibuprofen are up there......
 
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