PC Case grow - Stealth + Perpetual + LST

v12xjs

v12xjs

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Good spot ct, I missed the pump.
Your experience and observations are always welcome here.

NP CHIEF. Don't forget you can kill them with tlc. Sometimes the ladies like a little aggression you know ;)

I've got to say WOW. There's been Over 50,000 views of this thread!
I do hope that's not mostly police activity :)

Sorry for the lack of updates.
Case is looking a bit sorry for itself atm. Plants are undernourished and over neem'd, I've even been foliar spraying to keep the bugs in check so there's some leaf burning going on as well. Bugs look like they are in decline though so I'm feeling a bit happier.

I mailed Barney's Farm a few days ago to express my disappointment with their product, nothing rude or offensive, it wouldn't get through otherwise. I just pointed out that they are easy to grow but take much longer to flower than indicated and produce pretty low potency bud.
I've not had any response so I assume I was pointing out something they already knew and not contradicting other customer feedback. I think their lack of acknowledgement speaks volumes. I wouldn't presume to tell anybody else what they should and shouldn't buy, but unless I specifically want zero customer service combined with wildly inaccurate strain info and sub standard bud it's fair to say I won't be going back for more.
Here's a couple of pics from this morning:


 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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I've never had more than an oz in a single crop, but I use frequency of harvest to max things so I only harvest 1/3 of 1sq ft at a time.

With this light I can get 7g buds np but they are the size of those red bull cans. I reckon somewhere around 9 or 10 of those buds is the max I could do using the whole case so 2.5 oz as a total harvest, maybe 3 with careful pruning to max out the popcorn.
 
gumball

gumball

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still looking good all in all v12. i am sure you may feel a little tighter in your tin, but at least you will pull some through, and still not miss a beat, or much of one at least!!
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Mustn't grumble really eh gum?
I have some charas on order as backup though, squidgy black to UK tokers. It's better safe than sorry :)
 
ghettofabulous

ghettofabulous

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Wow, I really just read this entire thread from beginning to end in 2 sittings. I laughed, I cried, I cheered, I sat in suspense, I cursed the villains, and I cheered again. I feel like I watched your cases grow up into sophisticated adults, through thick and thin.

Thanks so much to v12 and everyone who contributed (except tom, he is kind of a twat), I would have needed 5 builds to sort through all of the possible combinations and lord knows what the end result would have been. Not to mention the education on light types and practical usage.

I have my case gutted and will rely on my Wordpad file of about 80 copy/pastes from my read through here. One thing I can say for sure, Firefox will lock up a Dell Inspiron 4150 after you have 74 tabs open in one window (Thanks to v12's porn).

I do have two questions, is your recycled mylar the inside of actual potato chip bags? As in a grocery store purchased bag? I was thinking you meant the little bags you get from those shady carts with the lady with teeth broken off at the gum line. I am not sure if you ever clarified within the thead. The other question is for anyone in the US, as this group seems the most helpful in all of the threads I've perused. Is ordering seeds a really shady venture? I'm a bit hesitant to search any out locally, as I'd rather keep my projects to myself. So I am limited to a few seeds I've collected over time, but would much rather maximize my efforts. Any info and advice would be appreciated. Feel free to PM me if that suits you, as well.

Thanks to all.

Since that is my only question after 1025 posts, I'd say you're all pretty fine teachers.
 
gumball

gumball

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ghettofabulous said:
Wow, I really just read this entire thread from beginning to end in 2 sittings. I laughed, I cried, I cheered, I sat in suspense, I cursed the villains, and I cheered again. I feel like I watched your cases grow up into sophisticated adults, through thick and thin.

Thanks so much to v12 and everyone who contributed (except tom, he is kind of a twat), I would have needed 5 builds to sort through all of the possible combinations and lord knows what the end result would have been. Not to mention the education on light types and practical usage.

I have my case gutted and will rely on my Wordpad file of about 80 copy/pastes from my read through here. One thing I can say for sure, Firefox will lock up a Dell Inspiron 4150 after you have 74 tabs open in one window (Thanks to v12's porn).

I do have two questions, is your recycled mylar the inside of actual potato chip bags? As in a grocery store purchased bag? I was thinking you meant the little bags you get from those shady carts with the lady with teeth broken off at the gum line. I am not sure if you ever clarified within the thead. The other question is for anyone in the US, as this group seems the most helpful in all of the threads I've perused. Is ordering seeds a really shady venture? I'm a bit hesitant to search any out locally, as I'd rather keep my projects to myself. So I am limited to a few seeds I've collected over time, but would much rather maximize my efforts. Any info and advice would be appreciated. Feel free to PM me if that suits you, as well.

Thanks to all.

Since that is my only question after 1025 posts, I'd say you're all pretty fine teachers.
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i have heard not. just pick up a pre-paid visa gift card that can be used internationaly, and order what you want. most threads i have read concerning customs stated that a letter was mailed to the recipient telling them that the package was confiscated for contriband. something like that. i know the paranoia, thats partly why i havent done it.
 
[seriousdesert]

[seriousdesert]

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ghetto, i'm from the UK so it might be different but when i ordered a couple of seeds the company http://www.everyonedoesit.com they went as far as concealing the seed container behind a label. so unless customs are specifically looking for the seeds it should be fine. Plus, i'm sure possession of seeds is legal, just the growing that isn't right?
 
maturesmoker

maturesmoker

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Mighty fine looking buds there V12, the Flora tub in there gives a good idea of the size of those things! Any reply yet from Barneys Farm? Sad after all that dedication and skill to be disappointed with the result. Liking the sound of a bit of charas though :-) I love the earthiness of that stuff, its funny as I read that I could almost smell it again and its been a few years now! Enjoy mate.

*Edit* seeds are legal to sell/purchase in the Uk but not in the US. But read around here and you will find plenty of experienced US growers ordering seeds safely and reliably. Most UK seed sellers will not post to US for obvious reasons but some do.
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Welcome ghetto and thank you.
I really appreciate you taking the time to post. You must be an avid reader to finish off such an epic in 2 days!
It's hard to believe a pissant pc grow journal can crash the mighty Firefox. Makes me truly proud :)
They really are just potato chip packets on the walls. The outer sleeve on the multipacks are also mylar and they are the perfect size for a case. Dare I say they are as cheap as chips too :)
Love your avatar btw.

Greets ms.
The black is gold seal and everything you remember. Wish I could have afforded a couple of o's.
That's why we smoke different spliffs to our American friends. Hash and charas were my only choices for decades, apart from the odd batch of weed or oil. Same for you I'm sure. Hot knives were the only way to avoid tobacco really, remember them?
Got nothing back from Barneys and I don't expect anything tbh.
We live and learn.

Hey there leorfts. I'm not there just yet, but the 1st mother has been planted. I should be seeing the 1st cutting in about 5 weeks. I learned a lot with last year's trial so I should do ok this time round.
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Hey serious.
Timetable for a seed under 12/12 goes like this:
23-26 days to show sex or thereabouts.
14 days to preflower, maybe a little less.
45 days+ Flowering, but that's a really big +!
20+ weeks for malani apparently :(

Hey CHIEF.
Pic 2 is the best use of topping and LST I've seen. Looks perfect to me. Can't wait to see how that plant grows.
 
CHIEF PUFF PUFF

CHIEF PUFF PUFF

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What's up V12xjs? It's been awhile and I have an update of Baby and Sassy since the topping and lst.

Here's Baby as of today (day 38 vegging)

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Now here is Sassy as of June 10th(day 15 vegging)!

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When would you start flowering considering I'm going in a pc 18.6" D and 8.1"W?

 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Hey CHIEF.
Girls are looking hot. TBH I don't see you being able to finish Sassy off in the case, I think she is gonna get very big. Once you switch to 12/12 the plants will grow much faster than they are doing now for at least a couple of weeks, and she is already at the size you want her to be after most of the stretching is over. Maybe consider a different future for her.
Baby looks great and I'd be switching her now as she will also do the stretch thing, but your sterling efforts early on should mean she will fill out beautifully. In the 1st pic it looked like maybe a little nute burn starting in the leftmost bud. Just keep an eye on it and consider flushing and lowering the nute levels a bit if it seems to get any worse.
Very impressive grow overall though CHIEF, just keep doing what you're doing.
 
v12xjs

v12xjs

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Hey fs. Been busy catching up on here so I didn't check the cam for recent pics.
I'm just sharpening the scissors for a harvest tonight though, and I took a pic of the charas, so just to tease you US guys:

Charas is gathered by rubbing the trichs from the leaves and then rubbing the hands together to produce small balls of black that easily join together to make proper naughty smoke. The great Books of Hashish by Lawrence Cherniak show pics of the whole process. Get your mits on that book if you can, you will cream your pants every time you turn a page :)

When I was about 13 my gf got me some indian charas with white streaks in it that were the flowers of Datura Stramonium. It was fearsome, easily more hallicinogenic than a 300microgram trip. It hit UK streets a few years later, maybe 1980 or 81 and it was sold as opiated Nepalese. A legend and one of my top 10 smokes ever.
This gold seal is nice but sadly not in the same league.

I'll go harvest this plant and post a few pics.

I never asked why you gave Qwerkle away. Hope things are good with you fs.
 
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