PC Case grow - Stealth + Perpetual + LST

Hi V12,

21g is damn good from a PC case, I mean given the space its amazing, and like you say, you're on a rolling harvest system

Hey thanks Cheese101 and welcome.

Greets CrazyTrain. Sad to see you without a grow, can't wait to see you up and running again.

Thanks to everyone else too. 21g will do nicely till the next harvest

Hey worm, ER knows his stuff but if you still have those bulbs then take a closer look as they may be worth it after all. When I changed from a 125w self ballasted to a 150w external ballast cfl I expected a 20% increase in light, but I got way more than that. That was why the plants were getting bleached.
When I looked a bit deeper it seems self ballasted bulbs aren't quite as good as they claim. I think it's to do with the efficiency of the ballasts and external ballasts are more efficient so they produce more light from the same wattage, and also run cooler due to the external ballast. I reckon a 100w PL-L bulb would kick ass in a case and the ballasts are pretty cheap.
Just a thought.

Got a few pics of the girls last night. Things are ticking along nicely but the new kush is a damn mutant. I'm not sure wether to kill her or let her go. I have grown such a plant once before but it wasn't up to much.

hey v

could you hit us up with a link to one of those external ballast cfl's? never seen one.

peace

Interesting that you say that, and yes I still do have those bulbs. I've been neglecting home depot since.
I guess I have to look into those diy ballast then.
Mutant kush aye? Let her go for a bit and see what she does, if she doesn't meet your standards OFF with her head

wow that some sticky shittt v12. yummm

i have to add ive also never seen a CFL without a ballast, i thought they all came with one. i have 3, 150w that came with the ballast attached.

The funny thing is home depot doesn't even carry the ballast but they have the bulb
I'll figure it out.

Nlites were the non ballasted lamps aimed at indoor growing but I'm not sure if they are still around. Here's their cfl page:
http://www.nlites.eu/cfl.htm

This is the kit I used. It's likely these boys manufactured for nlites anyway. Sadly the 150w needs a diffuser or a bigger case than mine:
http://mps.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008825415808/pdtl/Compact-fluorescent/1002444758/Energy-saving-Bulb-Complementary.htm

In Europe you'd need to look on fleabay for the kind of ballast you need as anything over 60w is now prohibited for domestic use. You should be able to get a 2x50w or 2x55w no trouble.

I can't find the stuff I read about the differences between ballasted and non-ballasted, but the general vibe was that self ballasted units generally put out 50-70% of the light an external ballasted bulb does. That does seem to be in line with what I saw.

Hey fs, are you still growing in the tank with Querkle?

Agreed on the bulbs. I was only suggesting that if he was going to return them due to the ballast thing (I've run into the depot snafu, too, man.. they sell cfl's like that, as well as MH and HPS! Idiots!) and cost associated, to keep on the path.. even if the cheap route. And dude.. CMH.. I was reading on that stuff and it sounds FRESH! That's what you roll with now, yes? You could easily rock 2 400's in a tent or small cabinet with minimal venting! The master, hard at work, you are!

Also, I got a 125 CFL now w/ mogul socket. AWESOME power, combined with my 2 68 W 'normal' cfl's and 2 24W T5HO bulbs.

~ER~

Wow that's some serious firwpower ER!
I know the quality of cfl's. I've only ever seen a handful of plants bleaching through too much light and my 150w cfl is easily capable of doing just that in my restricted space. You're absolutely right though. A couple of 42's will be just enough to grow some stinky bud and wouldn't be too difficult to cool, and you have to cut your teeth somewhere.

I found that plants stayed healthier in flowering with a mix of red and blue in my op and I just figured that CMH can do that in a single bulb. It isn't a cheap option so I'm really hoping it pays off, but the signs are good

Have yo started harvesting the fruits of your own breeding program yet?

v12xjs said:

Hey DW. Really glad to see your sig. Hope its all good things keeping you busy.
Did you get to smoke your wonderwoman?

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yes sir i did, i was very impressed!

Thats a tasty bud shot there V12 real solid looking. Everythings still looking rosy in the garden mate, great colour to them all.

I would leave the mutant Kush, let her go on. I have had only a couple of mutants from growing my (bubba o) Kush over the years but I recall them being very good on yield. I think its just the way they develop with more tops as well as that characteristic leaf growth. Just my opinion V12

That case looks an incredibly bright space now!

no grows in querkle's tank, ive moved to a bit bigger space between 2 rubbermaid tubs.

Result DW! Made up for you mate. Hope you fire that cab up again soon.

Hey ms. The mutant's got a name now so I can't really hack her. It's Trinity. Obviously
The one I grew out was in the 80's from some African bush. I thought she'd be a producer compared to the others but when the uneven internode spacing began she kind of grew like a Thai stick instead of budding up. I'm hoping Trinity's refined breeding will give me a better result this time

You should be banned from having spiders fs! Throw a nug in there for the poor girl, it was you that gave her a taste for it
Some of that monster sativa tree should do the trick!
jk.
Tell her I said hello.
Do you have a rubbermaid thread?

haha yea i should put a small one in there just for some decoration. i dont have a thread on the rubbermaid but theres some pics in the grow in my sig.

Just a quick update. The girls are all ok, although Trinity seems determined to stay small. Here's a pic of the case from this morning and you can't even see her in her pot on the right



The 1st of the violator kush plants is looking lush so far and she has a divine aroma. She's about 10 days into flowering now, here's one of the tops:



And here's a peek at the new case build. It's going slowly as I'm studying these days, but I'll get there eventually.
The false wall at the front is a For Sale sign and I'll fit another at the back. I'll be fitting the fans to the fake walls so the outside of the case looks totally original, unlike my present unit. I'll post up some more as it progresses.

V12, looking healthy in there as usual mate.

Case is looking good, I like the idea of that 'For Sale' board, is the plastic with a layer of sort of foam in between? Never though of that but it pefect for this. Whats the dimensions of that case ? I know they vary in size. Can I ask where you get the fan controllers ? Lots of questions!

lookin reeal nice there v, especially that Vkush. i wish i could smell that.

Hey Florida. Thanks mate.
I wish I could bottle that kush smell.

Cheers ms.
I can understand now why you persevere with BOK and the Mazari. Yummy

The case I'm using is just a cheapo job but it's 570(d) x 205(w) x 520(h), so it has plenty of room (if you don't need much!). The extra depth over my case means I can fit the 2 for sale signs and still have the same grow area I have now.
Just a shame I won't be growing in it

You can get the kit online from scan dot co uk, here's their part numbers:

LN11680 36.74 inc
Xclio SuperTower Black Hi-Performance Gaming (w/o PSU) see details - Hi-End
LN21012 1.47 inc
4044951001286 - Sharkoon 3-pin Y-Cable (Install x2 fans To One Connector)
LN21011 x2 @ 1.37 2.74 inc
4044951001279 - Sharkoon 3-pin fan extension cable
LN22032 x2 @ 2.86 5.72 inc
AK-FC-08-AT - Asetek PCI FAN Speed Adjuster Kit 3pin Fan/Fan Controller/ Motherboard Kit

Got another link for you Mr Worm. This one is my all time favourite so I'll give everyone else a crack at these:

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu351/v12xjs/General/Furry Freaks and Fat Freddies Cat/06_01.jpg

When you've read it, change the 01.jpg at the end of the link to 02.jpg for the next page etc.. The last page is 52.jpg
Enjoy them. They won't be there for long.

hey, good work, very jealous ha. could you post pics of the cab from outside with the door closed and open just to see how its all put together? thanks if you can

Hey tags, thanks.

The case is a work in progress and I'm afraid there has been no progress since that pic was taken. The design is based around my present build and theres some pics of that in one of the albums in my profile. Here's a link for you:
https://www.rollitup.org/members/a-103349/albums/case-5326/