Paranoid about your grow op's heat signature ?

Lotsa guy's here freaking out about flir & thermal scans,some for good reason,ive seen unmarked cop cars in my town crusing slowly down streets at night,the passenger holding a device that is barely visable.Ive been involved in hundreds if not thousands of thermal scans over the last 20 or so years,its a method commnly used in the construction industry.

If you own your own home & want to see how bad you stand out you can see very easily & cheaply,most insulation contractors that are a good sized company offer thermal scans to home owners as an evaluation tool in determining what types of insulation r values are needed & in what areas of the home they are needed,some contractors charge a fee for this service & all will deduct the fee from the final price should yu opt for an insulation upgrade.

Instead of everybody freaking out over this issue all the time do something about it,get on the phone & find a insulation contractor that does thermal scanning & order a scan,it only costs a few hundred bucks then you know what you need to correct,correcting a thermal signature that stands out from your neighbors is easily done once you know where the signature is at & how distinct the signature is,this is not top secret technology,use the same technology the police use to your benifit instead of waiting on them to use it on you.

Get a scan done & fix the problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Eatzzz2Ww

Great idea, invite a contractor over to see if he detects your grow. Contractors have a patient doctor type confidentiality with the people they do jobs for, and are super super trustworthy and they're all pro pot too.

You don't need a stupid scan, and all the panic about it is by stupid noobs. Learn before you grow if you are growing on the large scale that infrared is going to find.

If we lived in a world where there weren't any normal heat sources in homes then ok, panic. Otherwise your light is going to look just like your water heater, oven, refridgerator, furnace, fishtank, tv, computer, stereo, monitor, etc etc etc.

OregonMeds said:

Great idea, invite a contractor over to see if he detects your grow. Contractors have a patient doctor type confidentiality with the people they do jobs for, and are super super trustworthy and they're all pro pot too.

You don't need a stupid scan, and all the panic about it is by stupid noobs. Learn before you grow if you are growing on the large scale that infrared is going to find.

If we lived in a world where there weren't any normal heat sources in homes then ok, panic. Otherwise your light is going to look just like your water heater, oven, refridgerator, furnace, fishtank, tv, computer, stereo, monitor, etc etc etc.

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Who pissed up your tree anyways ?,if you want to be negative then go somewhere else plain & simple,a damm contractor dont give a shit less what the hell your doing nor would he even know,ever seen a thermal scan in person or be involved in one ?,the same results can be obtained from having a hot tub or a sauna in your home,it simply shows up as red on the scan.

Whatever has caused you so much negativity twords me in your posting is not warranted or appreciated,it seems that the negativity of this site has got to you.

It's misdirected anger from chronic pain. Sorry, I am really trying to work on it. Those services often include indoor scans, that was my beef. Outdoors any grow will look like anything else, so again, what is the point? (hopefully that wasn't too angry)

So i have read online that if your under a 1000 watts and runnin your lights mostly during the day, and not venting tons of exhaust into the air at night and shit, you dont have anything to worry about.

what about puttin the lights in a fridge

berry cooper does a segment in his video "never get raided again" about FLIR. i found it very informative, and demystifying. (must see guys!)

FLIR detects the concentration of heat (infared being emmited comparitively to other near by objects), not the heat itself. warm objects appear bright, while colder objects are displayed by cooler colors (blue, grey, black).

the processor inside a FLIR camera deciphers between objects of different temperatures. based on the difference in temperature of objects in a single viewing frame (camera shot), it assigns the approperiate shading for each object within the viewing frame. therefore if objects are similar (few degrees variant) in temperature, they do not appear to "glow."

so if the air outside is cold, and you are venting warm (grow light) gasses into the outside air, it is very easily detectable. FLIR can also detect infared radiation that passes through fabrics (i.e. curtains), or infared that is refracted/reflected through windows.

if you are running enough lights that you are required to vent (1000w+), vent the gasses back into the house (large room such as a basement) so that the concentration of heat is evenly dispersed throughout the house (total house temp will go up 1 or 2 degrees C, instead of one room raising 10 degrees C.

long story short... board up tight, vent inwards to disperse heat, and if you're still worried have the contractor come see ya!

-watchin the grass grow!

OregonMeds said:

It's misdirected anger from chronic pain. Sorry, I am really trying to work on it. Those services often include indoor scans, that was my beef. Outdoors any grow will look like anything else, so again, what is the point? (hopefully that wasn't too angry)

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Thank you.

Once your here a while longer you'll see the constant paranoia from semi new growers about thermal scans giving them away,this paranoia is not unfounded,mainly from people trying to hide large scale grow op's with multiple hid lights & lots of heat venting through chimneys & dryer vents.

A simple scan can show exactly what an illegal/legal drive by scan from police will show & give the grow op owner a chance to rectify any heat issues.

Illegal drive by scans are becomming more common place as time goes on with more & more police departments using the illegal tactic,then falsely claiming an informant or smell comming from the grow op as the means to obtain a warrant,if we can take away the heat signature from our grow op's it's one more tool we've taken away from the police to bust us,ive personally wittnessed police in unmarked cars driving down streets,in the middle of the night & the passenger holding a device out the window resting on the door frame.

Where i live any information obtained from these illegal scans can be used to obtain a warrant if the information was obtained durring a routine training exersise & not directed twords any particular person.

I'll go as far as saying this,after scanning my grow op myself i found out i needed to correct several things to remain invisable from a drive by scan,i feel much better knowing i cant be discovered by police durring a "routine" training excersise they supposedly use looking for suspects hiding in the dark of night.

vantheman169 said:

So i have read online that if your under a 1000 watts and runnin your lights mostly during the day, and not venting tons of exhaust into the air at night and shit, you dont have anything to worry about.

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This may be true but there are lots of people here running multiple high wattage lights, in multiple rooms that run in 12 hour shifts,large scale grows are not easily hidden.

A poster in this thread mentioned Barry Cooper,watching his latest vid clip shows the clear intent of crooked police departments to use drive by thermal scans to uncover covert indoor grows,they used this exact method to find his grow house then raided it.

We are a sought after asset for police departments in cash strapped times,remember we loose everything we own under seizure laws,this puts huge pressure on police departments to use ranmdom drive by scans more often as their main tool to find us.

As usual, good info panhead.

and grow one plant to get 2 ounces? go to the garage. build a tent like me. they also sell infrared blocking sheets at some hydro shops. hope that helped