Pandora's Box - Subcool with Pics Attached

Hobbes

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This Pandora's Box went into flower on December 12, 79 days. It's mostly cloudy now with a few amber, I'm going to let it go near 100% amber to look for a more sedative effect. It does lift mood but I find both PB and Jack The Ripper to cause anxiety.







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There are things I could have done to grow the plant better - root trapping and soaking better while watering - that may cut down on the flowering time some. I started Kali Mist at 18 weeks in Pro Mix and have it down to 13 weeks now, PB should probably be a ~9 week strain (~63 day, 16 days less than I've done this time). I harvested my first PB over a month ago.

The buds on all three PB plants were fluffy but covered in trichs. Light weight but lots of highs.

I like to grow a strain out a few times before making a call on it, but, neither Pandora's Box (3 plants) nor the JTR pheno I had did much for me. Not enough potency and I'm not crazy about how they affected me. I'm going to grow out the PB in the picture above a couple more times and germ a couple of JTR seeds I have left, looking for a good pheno. I had a JTR runt that reeked of lemons, I'd like to get a strong pheno like that. Also, I find strains get better the second or third time they're grown.

Jillybean is nice, but still not the potency I need. I lucked out and of 3/3 females I got one "Candy Store" pheno, I'm keeping it for a clone chain. Very very very strong jellybean smell, a deeper taste, relaxing. I think I can learn to grow this clone better as with Kali Mist, a keeper. I read reviews saying that Jillybean was a small producer but mine pumped out solid pear shaped and sized colas, greasy with resin. I gave one cola (top bulb) to a friend and it took up most of a 1 liter Zip Lock jar.

I've got Agent Orange, Querkel and The Flav to germ next, and I want to run the rest of my JTR seeds to see if I get a pheno that agrees with me.

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bongsmilie
 

Gotpurp?ADK

Member
heyy buddy good call on letin any subcool go that shit only gets better with age. id pul that candy store jill out ad giver her another shot. ive kept jill steady in my room for about a year and ive found to realy unlock the ptency you gotta go huge on the soil bro. the bitch is a onster she wil take anythin you giver her, as sher origniated in hydro. u really wanna get soe dank soil for her so she doesnt lack throughout i usually go legit organic nutes and aendents but if ur on a budget you can get legit resuts by addin fox far ocean forest soil and fox far nutes.. just be sure to flush heavy the last 20 days if thats the route u take... let her go nine weeks with a good fush not only wil u see but u will tate the rainbow. big ups to sub and mizz jil! shes m:weed:y favorite bitch
 

Anita Bhonghitt

Active Member
Good info. I've got Pandora Box and Jillybean ready to run. Also got some Third Deminsion and Deep Purple in the vault as well.
 

Hobbes

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It went amber quick, I checked some spots and it was 100% so I chopped it. I'm going to lay it to dry instead of hang, I find it takes longer and I might get more of of a cure. These are all the colas from the plant, a little better spreading for light and I could have thickened most up some. Very dense plant, more leaves than any I've had. The picture from above was after I harvested 75% of the fan leaves for honey oil last week. Maybe I fed it too much nitrogen and it didn't drop the fan leaves quick enough, shading the colas.

The buds were denser than I thought they'd be, not rock hard like Flo but more solid than the first two Pandora's Box I grew. A strong, but not overpowering, lemon smell. Trichome production was excellent, with my first two Pandora's and my one Jack The Ripper I found the Pandora's to be much more potent.

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This is the yield. For size comparrison: the black tray is 14" OD; the sizzors are 5" long; the blue topped container is 1/2 liter (2 cup). I hope that's enough, don't make me say more stuff. The colas are dripping wet too, right off the plant, so it's not as much as it seems.











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bongsmilie
 

Hobbes

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I give bud to 3 med patients, one gets close to half of my production and he did this report for me. I don't feel like I've vaped enough properly cured Pandora's Box to do justice to a spectrum of effects review but I do think this review is accurate. He's done all of the strains that I've done but this is his first smoke review, I want him to start thinking more about each strain's effects to choose our keepers rather than just "I like it and go through it quick." One of the other two folks I give bud to has done a few reports for me, I'll post those later on.

Two last notes. I find Pandora's Box to be more potent than the Jack The Ripper pheno I got this time. The 4 of us who've vaped Pandora's Box all found it to be sedative, not sure if I harvested too late but I thought it would be stimulating.

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Pandora's Box - TGA Seeds

by Scareb


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Spectrum of Experience1. Onset: fast effect or creeper. creeper 1 2 3 4 5 fast

I would rate it at a 4 because although it does come on fast, it isn't that overwhelming fuzzy feeling that some smokes give you.


2. Up (stimulating) and Down (sedative)

Liven the disposition and stimulate the emotions:


I find this smoke puts you in a tired state of mind without the fatigue, so no, it is not stimulating


Inspiring sociability and talkativeness:


Although it may release some tension, it does not make you more talkative, but you may be more comfortable sitting around with other laid back people


Sedative and depressant effects:


Depression is a relative term so i personally do not find this to be a depressing smoke, but it is very very sedative. The interesting thing that i have pointed out before, is that you get the same state of mind of being tired without feeling fatigued


3. Head High / Body Stone

Energizing: Not in the least

Motivating:
sort of motivating. your not out going, but you want to keep busy

Couch lock:
if you can find something mind numbingly simple to do with your hands while on the couch then you are set. something like a cross word or Sudoku puzzle would do the job for me


4. Emotional State Caused

Anxiety: i would say this smoke relieves anxiety

Euphoria:
not really

Calm:
definitely, although you are not going to be doing complex things

paranoia:
a good medication for paranoia


5. Body - medicinal effects


Nausea:
not for me but i wouldn't be surprised if it did for others

Pain:
nope

Seizures:
are you kidding?

Back:
feels fine


6. Head - medicinal effects

Depression: doesn't bring you up but brings you to just about even

Mania:
not that I have ever had that, but no.

Anxiety:
helps

Antisocial:
does not help at all

Anger:
chills you out a good amount but doesn't make you happy


7. Ceiling: How high (of far) one is capable of going with the variety. How many hits can be consumed until more hits are unnoticeable:

Couldn't say.


8. Potency: weak 1 2 3 4 5 strong:

this is a 3 for potency. it is good but not over powering, and certainly not a knock out bud


9. Duration short 1 2 3 4 5 long:

about 45 minutes to an hour for a heavy smoker. not bad


10. Tolerance:
ability to provide the same experience via the same amount over time – the burnout factor. "Over time" means the long run: months, years, decades...:

too soon to tell


11. Taste:


No taste what so ever. maybe a bit musky, and definitely scratchy on the throat but that's it.

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bongsmilie
 

haze2

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Hobbes you can disregard what I asked that last thread you got going. Hey I wonder why so fluffy?? I have 5 pandoras box going rite now, they are all in 5 gallon buckets half Roots Organics soil and half FF light warrior I am feeding well now is botanicare CNS17 with there ripe, sweet and some MOAB every few weeks, they are at about 4 weeks flower keep posted and Ill have a smoke report soon. I think it would be cool to do some comparison. Haze2 NOT TRYING TO HIJACK JUST RELATING
 

haze2

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Hobbes do you have any pics of your jilly "CANDY STORE" pheno?? I have 15 of those going rite now!! Id like to gt any info I can on thes girls, I also have some 3rd dimension if you know anything about it, Im talking about growth and eating habits. Haze2
 

OGDanimal

Member
Nice plants! I got 3 Panoras going now I hope they come out super. The Girls eat and drink alot, are super frosty and easy to grow!
 

vapor85

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I grew out a pack of Pandora's Box and was thoroughly unimpressed. Most females flowered long and had a low yield, plus a smell that was this sickly sweetness that I hate. Only one female out of a ten pack had that Space Queen cherry like smell but it still was not what I was looking for.
 

OGDanimal

Member
I disagree with vapor. I have 6 out of 10 female Pandoras Box. all 6 are diff phenos from each other but all 6 have ice fat colas. I will keep 2 as revegged moms. # out of 6 plants all have @1 oz main colas. These have been really easy plants to grow as I am a newb (only 2 years into it) and find that I can damage plants quite easily with my level of experience I know jsut enough to get me in trouble. I have seen the beginnings of over nute via tip damage and backed off on nutes and the plant really speaks to you and shows you what she wants. I am VERY intune with these Pandy Ladies and I love the aroma of fruitty pebles in and around my home.
 

vapor85

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I was only stating my opinion after having grown out a Pandora's Box pack I got a few years ago from bidzbay back when sub was still with them. If someone gets something they like from Pandora then good for them, But the best pheno of Chernobyl I found kicks the freakin ass of any pandora's box plant I grew out.
 

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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Chernobyl is some dank bud, i had some pandora that was harvested in 9 weeks (not the 10 1/2 like shown here) and it was incredible, so good, i just ordered 5 seeds of it, 5 seeds of vortex, and 5 seeds of Jillybean. i love tga gear, havent come across better genetics where i live, even when i grew a clone of Cindy99 i was more impressed with the vortex pheno i had last summer.
 
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