Pandora's Box - Spectrum of Effects report by Scareb

Hobbes said:

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I give bud to 3 med patients, one gets close to half of my production and he did this report for me. I don't feel like I've vaped enough properly cured Pandora's Box to do justice to a spectrum of effects review but I do think this review is accurate. He's done all of the strains that I've done but this is his first smoke review, I want him to start thinking more about each strain's effects to choose our keepers rather than just "I like it and go through it quick." One of the other two folks I give bud to has done a few reports for me, I'll post those later on.

Two last notes. I find Pandora's Box to be more potent than the Jack The Ripper pheno I got this time. The 4 of us who've vaped Pandora's Box all found it to be sedative, not sure if I harvested too late but I thought it would be stimulating.

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Pandora's Box - TGA Seeds

by Scareb


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Spectrum of Experience1. Onset: fast effect or creeper. creeper 1 2 3 4 5 fast

I would rate it at a 4 because although it does come on fast, it isn't that overwhelming fuzzy feeling that some smokes give you.


2. Up (stimulating) and Down (sedative)

Liven the disposition and stimulate the emotions:

I find this smoke puts you in a tired state of mind without the fatigue, so no, it is not stimulating


Inspiring sociability and talkativeness:

Although it may release some tension, it does not make you more talkative, but you may be more comfortable sitting around with other laid back people


Sedative and depressant effects:

Depression is a relative term so i personally do not find this to be a depressing smoke, but it is very very sedative. The interesting thing that i have pointed out before, is that you get the same state of mind of being tired without feeling fatigued


3. Head High / Body Stone

Energizing: Not in the least

Motivating: sort of motivating. your not out going, but you want to keep busy

Couch lock: if you can find something mind numbingly simple to do with your hands while on the couch then you are set. something like a cross word or Sudoku puzzle would do the job for me


4. Emotional State Caused

Anxiety: i would say this smoke relieves anxiety

Euphoria: not really

Calm: definitely, although you are not going to be doing complex things

paranoia: a good medication for paranoia


5. Body - medicinal effects

Nausea: not for me but i wouldn't be surprised if it did for others

Pain: nope

Seizures: are you kidding?

Back: feels fine


6. Head - medicinal effects

Depression: doesn't bring you up but brings you to just about even

Mania: not that I have ever had that, but no.

Anxiety: helps

Antisocial: does not help at all

Anger: chills you out a good amount but doesn't make you happy


7. Ceiling: How high (of far) one is capable of going with the variety. How many hits can be consumed until more hits are unnoticeable:

Couldn't say.


8. Potency: weak 1 2 3 4 5 strong:

this is a 3 for potency. it is good but not over powering, and certainly not a knock out bud


9. Duration short 1 2 3 4 5 long:

about 45 minutes to an hour for a heavy smoker. not bad


10. Tolerance: ability to provide the same experience via the same amount over time – the burnout factor. "Over time" means the long run: months, years, decades...:

too soon to tell


11. Taste:

No taste what so ever. maybe a bit musky, and definitely scratchy on the throat but that's it.

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Might wanna tell ur smoker that when you ask things like back pain or depressant qualities you are not asking if the herb is inducing these type of things, yet rather how the herb does dealing with such issues

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LOL!

His first reports, I was estatic to get them - I've only gotten one report between the other two guys I give bud to.

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nice report, very informative. how would you rate the yield for pb?

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Lower medium yield - 6 to 10 cups of cured bud for PB vs 8 to 12 cups of Kali Mist grown in the same area.

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I was thinking about getting this strain and have a few questions. Here they are...How is the bud grown? Soil or hydro? What wattage light are you using? How tall and bushy did your plants get? Did you do any type of SOG or SCROG or did you just veg them to a bush? Thanks for your input!

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"How is the bud grown? Soil or hydro?"

Pro Mix in 5 gallon buckets

"What wattage light are you using?"

600 watt Hortilux Super HPS with a Light Rail 3.5

"How tall and bushy did your plants get?"

18" at the tallest cola, mostly 8"- 12".

"Did you do any type of SOG or SCROG or did you just veg them to a bush?"

CCOB (Crop Circle Of Bud) - top the plant once, bend the stems horizontal and tie them down to the bucket rim. The stems circle the bucket rim 38" and only the branches grow up as small colas. I usually get about 34-38 branches growing out of the stems like budcicles from a hydro tube. Inefficient SCROG.

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I do CCOB, like an inefficient scrog without the screen. I top my plants once; veg each side of the stem to 22" in a 6" pot; transplant to a 5 gallon pot on an angle; bend the stems around the bucket rim. The branches grow up and the stem acts like a hydro tube feeding each small cola.

The stems virtually stop growing when they're bent horizontal, so I have to veg the plants so they will bend all the way around the 38" bucket rim. A single 38" stem is thicker and harder to train; two 22" stems crossed at the bottom and following the natural curve of a topped plant will train much quicker and easier.

This is a 1 stem Kali Mist at 35" and a 2 stem Flo (18" & 19"). The stem is much thicker and more difficult to bend and train. We need to get the stem around the 38" of the bucket rim to get as many branches as possible, so two thinner, shorter stems are much easier. The stems virtually stop growth and stretch when bent horizontal, many more branches than a vertical plant of the same stem length. The Flo trained in about 15 minutes and the Kali Mist took days.

Flo - Kali Mist


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This Bubblegum's stems weren't crossed and took over a week to train. If crossed I could have done it in a few hours.





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Flo



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Kali Mist


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here's a series of pictures for crossing the stems. The plant is re-potted from 6" pots to 5 gallon buckets - at an angle - to make bending around the rim quicker and easier.

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DIY Air Pruning Pot experiment - pictures

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A Flo (left) and a Bubblegum. The Flo has another week or three, the Bubblegum should harvest in the next week. The Flo is a knarly plant, twisty leaves, small hard buds. This is my second time around for the Flo, the last hermied and I burnt it with Dutch Passion Penetrator. The smoke was so beautiful I had to run it again, this time just a few pre flower pods and bananas on the lower nodes. I picked them off and the plant has been perfect since.



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The Bubblegum (right) is going to be my best producer ever, of Bubblegum. I should get 12+ cups of cured bud.



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The single stem Kali Mist from above on the left; on the right a Kali Mist grown with 4" of height above the bucket rim.




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Pics of my garden: SSD, KM, BG, BL, T, Flo, RD

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Nice detail Hobbs.