Pandemic 2020

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DIY-HP-LED

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CunningCanuk said:
I got my fourth shot in May so I’ll probably get the flu/Covid cocktail.
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I skipped the forth until the fall, so whenever they get the new boosters I'll get in line. I thought it might be of more value in the winter anyway and the modified boosters sold me. The vaccines didn't defeat it, but they did dramatically lower the severe illness and death along with antiviral treatments. I haven't got covid yet and I would prefer to remain a virgin!
 
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DIY-HP-LED said:
I skipped the forth until the fall, so whenever they get the new boosters I'll get in line. I thought it might be of more value in the winter anyway and the modified boosters sold me. The vaccines didn't defeat it, but they did dramatically lower the severe illness and death along with antiviral treatments. I haven't got covid yet and I would prefer to remain a virgin!
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I haven’t had it yet either, or I don’t think I’ve had it yet, I should say.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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captainmorgan said:
In the US, 930 died of covid yesterday, does that sound like the pandemic is over?
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There are still plenty of people in the hospital and the latest greatest strain is taking it's toll, yer lucky to have the latest booster. For those who want to avoid it or mitigate it at least there are ways now, medications and boosters. I wouldn't expect much mention of it until after the election and only if the democrats win, then they might be bolder on public health issues. Right now folks want to forget covid, so other than promoting boosters, let them. Win the election, cause if you don't the death will only get worse with lunatics running the show or throwing sand in the gears. America (Canada too) has to replace a generation of dead, wounded or burned out nurses and other health professionals FFS and the republicans won't be helpful with that at all. After the fucking they got from covid and Trump's response, there is trouble recruiting, women have many more employment options today and they do the work of compassion the best.
 
JamieThePainter

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captainmorgan said:
In the US, 930 died of covid yesterday, does that sound like the pandemic is over?
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Sadly, the pandemic will never be over. There were lessons to be learnt from it that as a society we refused to learn but to be fair with you no one ever expected to be over. The lockdowns were just a way to slow down the influx of vulnerable to our hospitals while we raced to find a vaccine that could do the same job as the lockdown and allow our economies to continue to run. Which, as sad as it is, they had to do.

You'll get loads of youtube commentors saying how they would have done it differently, but hindsight is a beautful ting alll right.

What I am glad of is that we did anything at all.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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JamieThePainter said:
Sadly, the pandemic will never be over. There were lessons to be learnt from it that as a society we refused to learn but to be fair with you no one ever expected to be over. The lockdowns were just a way to slow down the influx of vulnerable to our hospitals while we raced to find a vaccine that could do the same job as the lockdown and allow our economies to continue to run. Which, as sad as it is, they had to do.

You'll get loads of youtube commentors saying how they would have done it differently, but hindsight is a beautful ting alll right.

What I am glad of is that we did anything at all.
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The death toll in America and in the UK was too high, America has 25% of the worlds deaths and a few percent of it's population. In the beginning the virus was not nearly as contagious, lockdowns and masks slowed it down considerably, however the virus mutated into the most infectious disease known, fortunately after vaccines were rolled out and it's been an arms race since with new and improved strains. Masks would still help, but the public is sick of them and many would rather be sick I guess, they remain an option though and mandatory in some settings. Senior citizens and people over 50 pay the most attention to covid since we are the most at risk.

However science has not been idle and there are very promising vaccine and antibody candidates that kill all coronaviruses, not just covid and others that kill all known strains of covid. I posted about some of them earlier in the thread, then there are the antiviral drugs and if they can tame aids, they can figure out how to deal with covid.
 
JamieThePainter

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DIY-HP-LED said:
The death toll in America and in the UK was too high, America has 25% of the worlds deaths and a few percent of it's population. In the beginning the virus was not nearly as contagious, lockdowns and masks slowed it down considerably, however the virus mutated into the most infectious disease known, fortunately after vaccines were rolled out and it's been an arms race since with new and improved strains. Masks would still help, but the public is sick of them and many would rather be sick I guess, they remain an option though and mandatory in some settings. Senior citizens and people over 50 pay the most attention to covid since we are the most at risk.

However science has not been idle and there are very promising vaccine and antibody candidates that kill all coronaviruses, not just covid and others that kill all known strains of covid. I posted about some of them earlier in the thread, then there are the antiviral drugs and if they can tame aids, they can figure out how to deal with covid.
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The death toll is always too high. but it definitely could have been higher and it would all have been down to us and not our governments. I remember in the beginning and the Tories (UK) were giving it all the "take one for the team" etc and we all screamed how monstrous that was. So they did the responsible thing and they got flak for how monstrous that was. Which was to be expected really. But then a few months down the line and the left-leaning places that I would usually mill around in would start hating on the government for the lockdown as "it's a restriction of our freedoms!" etc and how this was all a conspiracy to control us and eventually coerce us into buying oxygen.

We can sit here crying about the government all day (and we will) but ultimately they are an extension of us and I'd say it was more the public response to the virus that caused the problems than the government response.
 
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JamieThePainter said:
The death toll is always too high. but it definitely could have been higher and it would all have been down to us and not our governments. I remember in the beginning and the Tories (UK) were giving it all the "take one for the team" etc and we all screamed how monstrous that was. So they did the responsible thing and they got flak for how monstrous that was. Which was to be expected really. But then a few months down the line and the left-leaning places that I would usually mill around in would start hating on the government for the lockdown as "it's a restriction of our freedoms!" etc and how this was all a conspiracy to control us and eventually coerce us into buying oxygen.

We can sit here crying about the government all day (and we will) but ultimately they are an extension of us and I'd say it was more the public response to the virus that caused the problems than the government response.
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Here in Canada it was more along age lines, the young and horny wanted their freedom and sought out the disinformation and peers that supported their feelings. They were at low risk, while the elderly and vulnerable looked on in horror, vaccines made the difference, but again it was the youth at low risk who are most resistant to them too.
 
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JamieThePainter said:
We can sit here crying about the government all day (and we will) but ultimately they are an extension of us and I'd say it was more the public response to the virus that caused the problems than the government response.
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Note: this statement likely doesn't include you if your government suggested drinking bleach.
 
Sativied

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Here we go again... as before summer wave it never went below a 1000 cases per day. Which is lower than the real number already because of incomplete reporting. What's odd though is that the number of particles in waste water didn't increase, went down a little. Perhaps just more people reporting cause of the colder autumn temps, people getting a cold more often, or, more likely, it's the start of the autumn wave. Getting updated booster next week regardless.

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Just got the updated mixture shot in my arm this weekend. Sore arm and a little groggy yesterday but back to normal today. Watch, my doctor probably will want me to get my flu shot also.
 
captainmorgan

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That's the official count and does not include all the previously healthy people dropping dead from mysterious strokes and heart attacks and all kinds of other conditions.
 
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