P.P.P. x Blueberry x Sativa.(Full gro with pics)

home.grower said:

I'm tuning in to this one, always wanted to engineer a strain and call it 'camel shyt', i'm inspired.

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The best thing about making your own seed is that you can call it whatever you like and it feels good to know that you have a created a type of weed that in all likelihood no one else has ever tasted except you.
Adds a kind of psychological buzz to smoking your own creations

The latest seedling updates.
Seedlings are doing well so far only 10 came up out of 11,i thought i had planted 12 but when i looked at the matchbox picture again i can only count 11 so i must have been to stoned to notice.

Ever so slightly burnt the tip of one seedling with the hps and slightly heat stressed them all for about 2 hours the other day after i tried to get away with having the hps 24" away with a fan blowing on it,seemed to work but after a while a heat spot built up on the top left hand corner of my box and damaged one seedling and slightly bleached a couple of others.

I immediately re raised the hps lamp to 36".
I only use the hps for about 4-5 hours at a time and then leave it of for a about 4 hours,fluro tubes are on 24/7

Anyway they all picked back up immediately and seem fine now.
I have a good feeling that this new breed will be strong in potency as well as hardiness.

hey nat....looking really good. thanks for the update!

do the stronger traits come from the male or female or are they 50/50?

papajock said:

do the stronger traits come from the male or female or are they 50/50?

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When i breed i use males that display the traits that i want to add to a female.
After you grow the resulting seed you have to then select one or 2 females that are displaying the characteristics that you like and then either rebreed them with the original males pollen or a new males pollen depending on how the new male that you get looks and smells.

Out of the 10 seeds that have sprouted i would expect to find a lot of irregularity and differences between them so i don't really think its so cut and dry to say that its anything like 50/50 more like luck of the draw,for all i know this stuff could be crap,its unlikely because of the parentage but still entirely possible.

Personally i reckon its gonna be some kikass stuff(hopes),i have my new pot design and i am going to buy some real nutrients this time instead of miracle grow and tomato food so i am hoping it will be the best i have ever had anyway

hey nat....looking really good. thanks for the update!

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Thanks for stopping by tahoe,this is the first time ive brought on seedlings using a hps as well as fluros so hopefully it will be worth my extra electric

Pics should be better from now on as i have discovered that i wasn't even using the camera properly
I will take some better seedling pics tomorrow now i know how to use the macro settings properlyish(lol)
So who wants to smoke my keyboard then

^^ keyboard needs a vacuum, disgusting ^^

the genetic expression strength can vary. In other work I have done, where you have dominant and subdominant genes, it depends on their specific pairing and their own individual nature as to the extent they are expressed in the pheno. In my work, the individual power of the male vs. the female varied. in my own kids, my daughter is a lot like me (phenotypically) while my son has more clearly demonstrated features of his mom.

Like Nat says, you try and pick things that will enhance the other or are complementary to each other, building upon the good and breeding out the undesireable traits.

Brings a funny thought....I picked my ex for your large breasts and ample brain.....guess it wasn't meant that we were to stay togehter for ever....but got two simply awesome offspring.....and like I have said....I did my procreation thing....now it time for some serious fun! - hahahahaha....but I digress......

There was another thread where fdd mentioned that wild out-crosses are more of a guessing game, and require multiple generation refinement. Outcrosses can add some additional genetic diversity, and therefore possibly strengthen weaked areas of a highly inbred strain.

I think breeding is fun.....

papajock said:

do the stronger traits come from the male or female or are they 50/50?

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natmoon said:

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Natmoon is such a good grower even his keys have trichomes

hahahahahaha you beat me to it.....I remember when I mentioned to him about the schwag he has on his desktop a while back....I think he sort of refered to it as just the "waste".....I thought...how do you know when you have too much smoke? when your kepyboard is more potent than your neighbours primo! hahahahahahaha

nongreenthumb said:

Natmoon is such a good grower even his keys have trichomes

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dont worry nat, i have a scruffy key board too.

I just checked mine to see how bad mine were, the keys appear to be reasonably clean, but located underneath the keys is probably about half o.

This is what happens when you have enough weed of your own.
When i used to buy weed this would never have happened as i would have rubbed my fingers sore to get any and all of the oil off of them now i don't even care anymore,i usually suck my fingers clean if i even remember

Damn that sounds sick but its true
I also make many many smokes right here and roll them over the top of the keyboard whilst i am reading so this is the result of doing that for a while i think.

I reckon thats 50% thc and 50% crap on my keys,still i will bet there are many people including me that would happily scrape that of in times of hardship

I'm on my way man! nuthin like neighbourly assistance is those really tough jobs!

Ok so moving on heres todays pics.
You can almost see the trics,unpotent as they may be at the moment,they are still there already on my seedlings which i am sure is a great sign.

I am still attempting to get my camera to focus properly in the grow lights whilst in macro mode and so far i think it wont work in macro mode in that kind of light so tomorrow i will try to take some in normal light

ever closer...ever closer...ever closer......hahahaha luv it Nat! thanks!

1 plant to a pot

hi nat here are some pics of my babys, ak48 and d.poison,
what lite are you using for your babys, to make them like pray to the lite, leafs pointing up.
my babys are nearly toutching and they dont do that.
nice close ups nat ill be watching.
still want some of them seeds. they seem ace.
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crazy-mental said:

hi nat here are some pics of my babys, ak48 and d.poison,
what lite are you using for your babys, to make them like pray to the lite, leafs pointing up.
my babys are nearly toutching and they dont do that.
nice close ups nat ill be watching.
still want some of them seeds. they seem ace.

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The seedlings are reaching in that manner due to very "careful" use of the 400 watt dual spec hps.

The far left seedling is stretched due to the fact that i stressed it with heat damage after a small heat spot developed on the left hand side of the propagator after i tried to be an impatient gimp and lower the hps to 24".
Not my best idea yet

Anyways bursting the 400 watt dual spectrum hps for like 4 or 5 hours at a minimum distance of 36" away from the top of the propagator with a fan blowing onto the propagator and the lamp to stop it getting to hot makes them go for it.

I suppose if you had a setup with adequate cooling and venting this would be much easier than it is for me.

I must stress that this is dangerous for your seedlings if you forget about them and not something to do if you don't want to be checking your seedlings every 2 hours or so for hot spots.
As soon as i think its a bit to hot i switch the hps off.

I don't recommend using a hps for seedlings unless you really have a good eye for them and are prepared to look after them like babies.
The fluro tubes are cool blue t8s,1 is 30 watts and one is 58 watts or something like that,they are on 24/7,with the 30 tube right next to the box almost touching it.

As soon as the seedlings reach the top of the box i will pot them separately and i allowed enough distance between seeds for the roots to never tangle in the short time that they will be in there.

In the summer months i would never bother with a propagator.

As soon as i move to Amsterdam i will sell my seeds,but until then i refuse to be treated like a criminal or jailed for selling a few seeds.
My missis is extremely unhappy just with me posting anything at all on the net let alone selling seeds on seedbay.

So sorry i do promise to improve and keep breeding and save some original seed of each version as well and if i can get to the dam i will.
For the minute though get a p.p.p. plant of your own and try to get a male blueberry and you may end up with something similar to mine,possibly even better.

I grew several of the original seeds though and i selected the types that showed to be the best and have recrossed them and now crossed them again with the new pollen from the sativa so dont think that you can crossbreed and that every seed will be the same,they aint thats for sure,some will suck,find the best breed them smoke the rest

OK heres todays pics,seedlings are very slightly pissed at me for using the hps but i think that the good has outweighed the bad and the seedlings are already producing trics(unpotent ones)because of it.
Seedlings are 12 days old now and i didn't soak them before use just straight from the matchbox to the propagator.

Messing about with a hps and seedlings sucks really and i have to be very careful.
I may invest in a proper mh bulb setup sometime in the next 6 months for future grows.

WARNING!!!
FOR ALL NEW GROWERS THAT MAY READ THIS I DO NOT RECOMMEND USING A HPS FOR SEEDLINGS THIS IS DANGEROUS AND MAY WELL FRY YOUR BABIES IF YOU ARE NOT VERY CAREFUL!!!

Anyway heres the latest pics so you can see for yourself.
All though you can see very slight heat stress i think overall they are doing well,these new shots show the hairiness of these seedlings off much better i think.