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xtsho

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It looks like the fan leaves are all turning yellow, dying, and falling off. There is more than a watering issue going on with those leaves. Is that soil or coco and what have you been feeding them?
 

Sunzen

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Everything they need is in the soil. It’s a mix of coco and peat. I’ve been feeding them with fungal dominated compost tea combined with bloom from earth juice plus top dressing a little guano and castings. First indoor grow and I do agree that they’re probably hungry. Any suggestions?
 

xtsho

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Everything they need is in the soil. It’s a mix of coco and peat. I’ve been feeding them with fungal dominated compost tea combined with bloom from earth juice plus top dressing a little guano and castings. First indoor grow and I do agree that they’re probably hungry. Any suggestions?
It's hard to say with that mix you have them growing in, what you're feeding, and the fact that you're top dressing with amendments. I think your grow medium is unbalanced. Have you grown with that mix and feed before? I don't have any suggestions. I'd just be guessing. But in the future since it appears you're growing organic indoors you might want to mix up a proven recipe of supersoil.

Good luck
 

InTheValley

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need a pic with 4000K at least to really tell. You need coco/peat to dry out at least 50% before watering. If you over water, the roots get rotted out and lockout nutes. Ive just about mastered coco/peat/perlite ( cocoloco ) mix mediums, and over watering is a easy way to ruin your plants, without even knowing till week 3-4 into flower.

Something Ive also found, dont be afraid to throw a good feeding in there. This medium doesnt seem as hot as it seems. Ive discovered Ive been severally under feeding, even in this mix, and should be starting at 500ppms at least. even with the guano and castings, ( which cocoloco has a good amount in it).
 

Sunzen

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It's hard to say with that mix you have them growing in, what you're feeding, and the fact that you're top dressing with amendments. I think your grow medium is unbalanced. Have you grown with that mix and feed before? I don't have any suggestions. I'd just be guessing. But in the future since it appears you're growing organic indoors you might want to mix up a proven recipe of supersoil.

Good luck
I used this mix

https://www.rollitup.org/t/organic-super-soil-mix-from-scratch-for-rols.890040/

Ill give her a heavy feeding tonight see what happens
 

xtsho

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I used this mix

https://www.rollitup.org/t/organic-super-soil-mix-from-scratch-for-rols.890040/

Ill give her a heavy feeding tonight see what happens
Oh, I thought you just mixed peat with coco and top dressed with guano and castings and watered with the earth juice bloom and teas.. It looks like a low nitrogen soil which is why your leaves have yellowed.

The author of the recipe says:

"If I get early fade I will water in bubbled nutrient teas, fish hydrolysate and/or organic blackstrap molasses."

Yeah you probably need some nitrogen. You won't restore the yellow leaves but the plants still need some nitrogen in flower. Just don't go overboard.

Good luck.
 

Sunzen

Member
Oh, I thought you just mixed peat with coco and top dressed with guano and castings and watered with the earth juice bloom and teas.. It looks like a low nitrogen soil which is why your leaves have yellowed.

The author of the recipe says:

"If I get early fade I will water in bubbled nutrient teas, fish hydrolysate and/or organic blackstrap molasses."

Yeah you probably need some nitrogen. You won't restore the yellow leaves but the plants still need some nitrogen in flower. Just don't go overboard.

Good luck.
Thanks for your help man one more question if I may ask - I got some botanicare pure grow..should I use like 1/4 of the recommended?
 

xtsho

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I wouldn't get too crazy but a little might be a good idea. You probably should have used some when you first started getting the yellowing. But hindsight means nothing. And those buds have a ways to go so you don't want them hungry.

I had some issues when I switched to making my own soil for a grow. I ended up going back to coco for now because I can grow in coco in my sleep. Soil has a lot more going on.
 
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