Outside grow help... Whats the best nutes to enhance my yield in these last 4-6 weeks

eDude I like you. Thanks for the advice. That looks beautiful. Im got 5-1-1 and bio bloom and grow on the way. not ideal obviously but being first time its cheap and fun. and a learning experience so all comments r helpful. even some that r wrong i feel lol

elliottm2333 said:

eDude I like you. Thanks for the advice. That looks beautiful. Im got 5-1-1 and bio bloom and grow on the way. not ideal obviously but being first time its cheap and fun. and a learning experience so all comments r helpful. even some that r wrong i feel lol

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Just so we're clear that's not my plant.. lol That was part of the of the 'reply with quote'. That was HB's nice plant.


I guess those guys aren't card players.. Aren't even going to see me.. I'm going to assume this means they fold.

eDude said:

This is where I up the ante.. So you're telling me that If I post images you'll accept that I'm right and not question my experience or advice ever again? Really? lol Nice plant by the way but you're still wrong about this plant food and how to use it. I imagine it's why you don't use it.. So put your pride where your mouth is.

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You're stuck in the 'charts and bottles' rut like a lot of people who can't read plants. I'd suggest you spend less time at your hydro store reading those glossy magazines and more time learning about the essential elements that make up those bottles that you're reading about. Maybe one day you'll learn that there are as many fixes for chlorotic leaves as there are trolls here at trollitup.

To Op and eDude, this link that help me to understand about plant food...and give me more better optiion which to buy.

check this out http://retirees.uwaterloo.ca/~jerry/orchids/nutri.html

ive always read label back on the bottles. its most important to know the element minerals so your plants can thrive.

happy gardening

Izoc666 said:

To Op and eDude, this link that help me to understand about plant food...and give me more better optiion which to buy.

check this out http://retirees.uwaterloo.ca/~jerry/orchids/nutri.html

ive always read label back on the bottles. its most important to know the element minerals so your plants can thrive.

happy gardening

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Can't disagree with that. But you understand that the problem in this thread was set. I'm working with the OP on a solution based on what he has. It's not a nute problem. It's an application problem. It's like he was on a bike and asked how to go faster. I noticed that he's got a flat.. HB is convinced that he needs a unicycle.. I'm the one telling you all that he has a completely fine working bike.. Just needs some air in the tire and I get attacked and called a troll. By the unicycle gang..

HB's angle is ridiculous. I can't tell you how many times people assume with nutes and mess things up. Most makers try to get you in the tsp per gallon range but if you've ever done organics you know that method get's thrown out the window. The makers offer guidelines that in general will get the job done for 90% of the plants. Izoc66, if you really think these nute makers are not owned by stoners that know exactly what their nutes are used for then you're in dream world. They know what side their bread is buttered on. They all run their 'dirty' test and their clean test and only publish the clean mix with what you want to hear from the dirty.

Go to a hydro convention.. I've been going for about 7 years now.. They all party and you'll smell and see and partake with people smoking pot all around.

Also in organics, if you wait to see or 'read' a problem then it's too late. Organics are not like mineral salts. They do not work as quickly. Even then if you wait to read a problem then you're not doing it right. Damage has already been done. Smart people gain experience this gets you something called skill. Skill isn't guessing.. it's technical and precise not based on perception but on history and you avoid the problem all together from then on. HB keeps waiting.. that's reactive.. not proactive. reactive is not productive. It's dragging your heels waiting for events to drive your reactions.

Maybe I'm reading this wrong cause I'm tired but you guys have been saying the same thing back and forth and confusing the OP. HB said he should add N to keep the leave green to finish. You eDude said he should be using the grow with the bloom when he wasn't...thus he should add N. To me you both are right, I have to say reading you plant is important but when you start you have to start any new nutes you have to start with a chart(usually not full strength) and go from there. Just a thought when you guys are going to flame each other since it seems you have history maybe an @HB or @eDude would keep the OP from thinking you were talking shit to them.

Yes, you're right.

My point is that he has the grow. No need to go out and get anything else. He was just using it wrong from the start. He and HB we're under the impression that the bloom bottle is used alone, this is not correct. A quick look at the feeding chart tells you that. I also know this cause I've used BB before. It's like throwing out a car cause you didn't understand that you needed to push in the clutch to start it... I'm just pointing out how it works. We all want it to start.

Yes, I do give HB a hard time. He likes to tell everyone that I'm a poser and that I don't know what I'm talking about because I corrected him a few times. I don't mean to get anyone confused.

I appreciate it guys. I actually understand the nutrition charts now and how they r supposed to be used. Thanx again. And im gonna add more N (5-1-1 rt now to green up the plant. I wish i woulda found this website earlier lol damn newbie. thanx fellas!!