Outdoor grow outta control.

Mr. Harlo

Mr. Harlo

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Hey, New member here. I posted this In the newbie section yesterday but haven't had any replies so I figured I try here. I am going to try to make this short and sweet. I just wanted to cover as many questions that you guys would possibly ask throughout the growth or what not.

I started two plants outside the last week of April I live on the East Coast. They are in pots. I have no clue what strain they are. I started with the "paper towel" method for germination. I planted them in pots (little pots) then transplanted a few weeks in to a 5 gal. I inquired a green house off amazon for my other garden and decided to move these ladies in the greenhouse. After doing that everything boosted. I had a box fan running 24/7 to promote wind. I ran into some white powdery mildew. I used a SM 90 treatment and it fixed the issue. I did not realize that they started to become root bound ( I am a beginner in growing anything, this is my first year attempting anything vegetable and fruit wise as well). I transplanted them into a 15 gallon pots and within a day they were reaching for the ski. They are about 4 feet and a few inches in height. Everything is going amazing however I started too late and where I live late September/October it gets cold drastically. The rate these are going I feel they would want to push through till early November which is not possible. I started the 12/12 about a week ago to promote flowering, so I can harvest sooner than later. I have a cedar closet in my basement and have been lugging them inside and out 6am to 6pm. They are doing amazing over night in the closet and I have now pistols everywhere starting to pop out.... Ok so here is the issue this morning I brought them out at 6am sharp we had seriously high humidity levels today and by the time I got home at 6pm they grew about 8 inches in length within 12 hours. They are hitting the roof of the green house and I can not have them outside. Is it possible to continue this inside the cedar closet or
Is it to late? Any advice is much appreciated. I am at a loss and this is more then I bargained for apparently.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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You could trim and / or tie them down.

You could also "lay them down". Tip the grow containers at an angle when they're outside in the light and they'll be shorter. If you have the room to get them nearly horizontal, (might take some creative bracing) you'll create more "canopy" and less height. A day or two in the sun and the plants will adjust. Good luck.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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pics of the closet, greenhouse, and plants would help.
there are many ways to limit height. super cropping is crushing the interior of the stem so it bends over, without damaging the skin, they form a knot there and will grow larger above the knot. you can bend them without kinking them and tie them over, within 4 or 5 days you can untie them and they'll stay close to how they were tied over.
topping or fimming is always an option.
if you want to move inside, you'll need a light. if you go with strips, QBs, or cobs, you can get by with a couple of fans. if you go with an h.i.d. light (MH, HPS) you'll probably need a fan to extract the heat, and a way to exhaust it.
 
Dmannn

Dmannn

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I read you whole post, sounds like you got some good work ethic, this is good!

The fan in the green house is a good step maybe you need more. You will have to modulate the vents and fans during the afternoon the remove as much moisture before the temp drops at night. Then Close some of the larger vents and check your humidity and temps in the morning. Make adjustments as necessary. Remove any moist or wet stuff in the green house. If you can get the light to hit the floor this will dry things out the fastest.
Depending on the size of the green house, you may want to get a SEALED 35-55 gallon drum filled with water. This will help stabilizer the temps in the green house by releasing heat at night and absorbing heat during the day..
 
Mr. Harlo

Mr. Harlo

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Hey guys thank you so much for the replies. I snapped a few quick photos I'll take more tonight when I am about to bring them down to the cedar closet. I decided to raise the back end of the green house which gave me an extra foot in height and now they have way more room. I read about topping however idk if I'm to far past that. I do have some "clawing" happening with some of the bottom leaves and those are also turning a tad yellow but I don't think it's of any concern but I could be wrong. I just wanted to experiment this year and let Mother Nature take its course and see what happens, however I started way to late. This next coming season after doing more research on this forum I feel I will have no issues like this time around. I don't want to grow inside at all just did not expect them to grow so tall and so rapidly. The lugging of the pots every day up and down the steps is getting very annoying but I have such an attachment to them ( call me pathetic I know, I don't know why I have such an attachment to them haha) so killing them is not an option.

Is it to late to top it or does it not really matter at this point and let nature just go?

The picture of the green house has a tomato plant blocking the entrance so no wondering eyes can look in over my fence.

I keep making edits im sorry can't stopping thinking of questions ... Should I use a oscillating fan instead of a box fan?
 

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Dmannn

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I would let them go at this point. Maybe some bloom nutrient. Moving them around so much may lead you to dropping or harming them..
 
Mr. Harlo

Mr. Harlo

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Dmannn said:
I would let them go at this point. Maybe some bloom nutrient. Moving them around so much may lead you to dropping or harming them..
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I was going to continue atleast using the closet at night for the 12/12 because I feel it will get to cold here and it won't flower in time. I literally have alarms set every day for 6am/6pm I have made a bond with them and a promise that I will lug them everyday and night up and down those steps (call me crazy lol) they are not to heavy and my basement is overly spacious so carrying them through the house is not a pain just jumped the gun about their height and went into panic mode but after thinking about rasieing the green house all panic was set aside. For a first time newb do they look atleast "decent". Anything comes to mind for you that I should possibly do?
 
Dmannn

Dmannn

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Mr. Harlo said:
I was going to continue atleast using the closet at night for the 12/12 because I feel it will get to cold here and it won't flower in time. I literally have alarms set every day for 6am/6pm I have made a bond with them and a promise that I will lug them everyday and night up and down those steps (call me crazy lol) they are not to heavy and my basement is overly spacious so carrying them through the house is not a pain just jumped the gun about their height and went into panic mode but after thinking about rasieing the green house all panic was set aside. For a first time newb do they look atleast "decent". Anything comes to mind for you that I should possibly do?
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They look good. Maybe next time try your hand at topping. You can try being them over but they will have to stay put..
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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look up
low stress training
super cropping
fimming and topping
don't top now, though. want to top or fim before they start to throw pistils.
 
Mr. Harlo

Mr. Harlo

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Dmannn said:
They look good. Maybe next time try your hand at topping. You can try being them over but they will have to stay put..
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Thank you Dmannn and Roger, seriously once they passed 4 feet and had no pistols I started to worry about their height because yes I do have a spacious backyard and 8ft fences all around the property but the neighbors are not the nicest? Or let's say they come off as "weed is the devil". I also live near a base where they are routinely doing training fly by overhead and what not. That's really the main reason I got the greenhouse.
 
Mr. Harlo

Mr. Harlo

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Last question (I believe, I apologize). Since I am a week into 12/12 how much "possible" growth could happen in height? Or am I in the clear with "height growth".
 
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waterproof808

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The fast growth you are experiencing is the "Stretch" that happens in the first couple weeks of flowering. Some strains can stretch 2-3x their initial height but it really depends on the strain.
I wouldnt top anything at this point, I would just bend them down aka super crop or you can consider using a trellis to help tame the height.
 
Mr. Harlo

Mr. Harlo

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waterproof808 said:
The fast growth you are experiencing is the "Stretch" that happens in the first couple weeks of flowering. Some strains can stretch 2-3x their initial height but it really depends on the strain.
I wouldnt top anything at this point, I would just bend them down aka super crop or you can consider using a trellis to help tame the height.
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I really wish I knew what strain it was. It came from a good batch I know that haha. I am going to look into "super crop" I saw something on it where your basically "bruising" the plant.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Mr. Harlo said:
I really wish I knew what strain it was. It came from a good batch I know that haha. I am going to look into "super crop" I saw something on it where your basically "bruising" the plant.
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they usually slow down when you start to see good sized clumps of pistils.
looks like you have another week of stretching anyway
 
Mr. Harlo

Mr. Harlo

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Hey guys update here.

I am posting two pictures of one of the plants (the taller one).

The first photo was taken Tuesday afternoon and the second was taken today about 10 minutes ago. How does the pistol growth look?
 

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