Outbreak on my plant, Please help!

I'm rather limited on exsperience but I have been using fox farms and it seemed like every time I tried to add newts during the vegging process it was too much. My next grow I plan on vegging with just the newts in the soil and then using bloom newts for the flower process.I just think their soil is plenty rich and doesn't need it.

what are the N-P-K values on fax farm? i'm too lazy to go look and i think it would be a good discussion point

peace

on what ? soil veg, bloom or about 20 othe products they sell

metalman531 said:

I'm rather limited on exsperience but I have been using fox farms and it seemed like every time I tried to add newts during the vegging process it was too much. My next grow I plan on vegging with just the newts in the soil and then using bloom newts for the flower process.I just think their soil is plenty rich and doesn't need it.

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thats what using nutes is all about. watching and learning what the plant is telling you and what cycle requires what boost, and every plant is different

all of it

So i was at my local grow shop and was talkin to the guy, and i told him about i may have Salt bonds....

Well, we get to talkin about it, and i mention im using distilled water..

he says i shouldnt use distilled water, cause plants dont always like it... he says use spring water rather than distilled water... he says "yeah i know ppl say use distilled, us distilled... but the point is i did a side by side grow of distilled and spring water... and the spring water plant did better"


so ill take his advice and start using spring water when watering...

I also went and bought Open Sesame (5-45-19) and Big Bloom (0.01-0.3-0.7) and some flowering bulbs (CFL)

I was going to start using open sesame like tomorrow before i start flowering... Do i just mix this with water and feed it to the plant? or do i mix it into the soil, then water


May sound like a dumb question, sorry but im a newb and i wanna get this right



--C

So i was at my local grow shop and was talkin to the guy, and i told him about i may have Salt bonds....

Well, we get to talkin about it, and i mention im using distilled water..

he says i shouldnt use distilled water, cause plants dont always like it... he says use spring water rather than distilled water... he says "yeah i know ppl say use distilled, us distilled... but the point is i did a side by side grow of distilled and spring water... and the spring water plant did better"


so ill take his advice and start using spring water when watering...

I also went and bought Open Sesame (5-45-19) and Big Bloom (0.01-0.3-0.7) and some flowering bulbs (CFL)

I was going to start using open sesame like tomorrow before i start flowering... Do i just mix this with water and feed it to the plant? or do i mix it into the soil, then water


May sound like a dumb question, sorry but im a newb and i wanna get this right



--C

thanks for the info

I use Grow Big (6-4-4) and then theres the nute used during flowering called Tiger Bloom (2-8-4), and i grow in fox farms Ocean Forrest soil...

they also have a couple more fertz, Beastie Bloomz (0-50-30) and Cha Ching (9-50-10), which i dont plan on buying this grow

you can only buy ferts like that online??

cause i know home depot and lowes don't carry ANYTHING near values like that.

peace

haha, of course they dont... but if you go to your local Hydroponics store or Grow Shop, they're bound to have everything you need.. Not to mention its a wealth of knowledge


What State do you live in? I'll give you some Shops with their corresponding cities and numbers or websites (as to keep where you live anonymous)

you need to mix it in water. first of check ph of plain water, if it`s off adjust it. then add 1/4 mix of your sesame and check ph again and adjust it. i would realy advise you to also buy a ppm or ec pen if your going to use nutes. worth while investment if your going to continue. ph and the ppm or ec are two different things that are the most important when using nutes mine was about 100 bucks or get a combo pen. wished that i had. untill then just go a little weaker with nutes. mix like i said always start at 1/4 and work your way up. just follow the chart i posted and you should be fine. once you understand ec, ppm and oh it starts to get pretty easy.

LOOK MA NO HANDS, I`M A BIG BOY NOW!!!!! LOL good luck bud

I bow down to the all mighty bonz


Thanks so much for your knowledge

i dont know about that. believe it or not but this is my first grow since the 70`s/80`s. before all this hydropnics stuff.good old mother nature outdoors and straight water. i did spend alot of time talking with my connections, like dr hornby ( nute maker,marijuana dr at university of bc. spent about 6 months just reading and studying before i bought a single thing.

having these people has bennefited me in so many ways, and i just hope to share some of what i have learned. i may not be 100% accurate iether. i`ll be learning new things for the rest of my life and anybody that thinks he`s king shit of growing needs to close the mouth and open thier ears, or they will never be any good.

are you bringing up the ph of the distilled water a little. if it is distilled properly its probably around 6 for soil i would raise it to 6.4 or 6.6 that may help with your nute problems. or maybe do a flush if it worsens and check the ph of the first gallon of run off water to see where your ph is i have had to do this on occasion it helps with these kind of problems good luck

p.s. be carefull with spring water it is full of mineral salts and will cause more problems long term. distilled or r.osmosis are best because the parameters of the water is easily adjusted up or down because there are little to no buffers or acids present making it easy to control. just adjust as needed distilled and r.o. water should be around 6 if it was properly purified. i have been in the aquarium industry for many years and have tested thousands of gallons thousands of times mainly for reef aquariums where mistakes cannot be made. if your distilled is still at a ph of 7 there are still minerals present and i would switch brands sometimes companies add minerals to enhance flavor or it is simply poor distillation

man i am so lucky to have perfect ph`d water right out of my tap. i do keep a 10 gallon tub of water with a 30 dollar fish fiter in it to clean and keep it airated. i would recomend something like that for you. constant supply of good water.

Man, I have just read most of this thread, and it makes me really glad I'm in Hydro! If I could rep all of you guys I would!
I guess Hydro must sound a bit intimidating in the beginning too.

Good luck,
Unity

my next one will be hydro. i just wanted to test a few things in soil being that it gives you more time to fix a problem

StonedSurfer54 Bonz is right, looks like nutrient overload - you are killing them with kindness. Possibly, watering to often & using too much fertilizer. The soil you are using if very good stuff, it should carry your plants for the first month - with no additional fertilizers. If you have used any fertilizer before that 4 week mark - they are probably overfed. If not - it is possible, the soil you got came with too much fertilizer in it. It happens, just not often. To repair the damage, do the following:

Mix up a quarter strength fertilizer - pour through the affected pots - thoroughly -to flush out the toxic condition. (You have to use some fertilizer to bond with and drag out the buildup). Make the flush, gallon for gallon; if you have a 3 gallon pot flush with that amount, minimum. Next, mix up 1 cup of hydrogen peroxide 3 % (like you disinfect a cut with) with two gallons of water. Flush again. Make as much as you need. Flush gallon for gallon. Then Wait. The extra oxygen in the HP will bath the roots with much needed oxygen. If you are watering too often you are drowning your roots. If not, the HP will not hurt a thing.
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Three days later, feed a quarter strength mix of grow fertilizer (higher N). Do not water every other day. Wait until soil is dry at least two inches down from the top.
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Only feed your plants once a week, water as needed. If the soil in your pots is drying out any faster than 3 days, the area you have them in is too hot. Or you have too much air flow across the pots, in effect - air drying them. So, reduce temp. or reduce air flow (that blow directly on your plants). I suspect that big fan, may be a little to much, considering their size. If your grow area is so hot the big fan is necessary, move your plants.
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Hope this helps... Keep it Real.... Organic..