Organics Vs Chemicals

TillthedayiDIE420

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Organics Vs Chemicals
BY JORGE CERVANTES

Nutrients supplied by fertilizers can be broken down into specific chemical elements whether the fertilizers are chemical or organic in origin. Is one better than the other? Maybe, but they also require different management strategies.
Chemical elements are generally altered by heat and chemical processes. Liquid and crystal fertilizers consist of elemental nutrients combined in a soluble form and are immediately available upon application for uptake by roots. Granular chemical fertilizers consist of layers of degradable resin impregnated with nutrients; the resin breaks down over time and releases the nutrients.
Exact quantities of each element in a chemical fertilizer are included in the mix, and a specific ratio of "safe nutrient levels" is fed to plants. You can find a mix for specific water conditions and plants at your local hydroponics store. Once in solution form, you can measure the overall strength of chemical nutrients with a ppm (parts per million) or EC (electrical conductivity) meter.
Organically grown cannabis has a sweeter taste because the natural elements impart many more compounds than do chemical fertilizers. You can choose to mix and manage you own organic fertilizer, but indoors this requires horticultural know-how. Outdoor organic gardens are easy to maintain because Mother Nature is on you side. Indoors, i prefer to use tried-and-true premixed organic fertilizers-Earth Juice, BioCanna, BioGenesis, BioBiz, Fox Farm, Pure Blend,-Because limited space, soil life and sanitation are major concerns. Containers full of fresh soil have little room to build and maintain "live" organic soil teeming with beneficial bacteria and microbes. Short cloned crops allow little time to cultivate the soil life. However, there are ways to utilize some organic techniques on a short-term basis and achieve excellent results.
Use new potting soil high in worm castings, peat, sand, manure, leaf mold, compost and fine dolomite lime. You can make your own soil, but remember that destuctive insects, fungi and bacteria are often present in homemade composts and soils. Store-bought organic soils such as black gold, Fox Farm and Whitney Farms are generally consistent and safe to use. Savvy growers throw away old, depleted soil and start new plants with fresh organic soil.
Organic nutrients, manure, worm castings, and blood and bone meal all work very well to increase the soil's nutrient content, but nutrients are released and available at differnt rates, and nutrient avalibility is tricky to calculate precisely. The saving grace is that organic nutrients are somewhat difficult to overapply. Organic nutrients seem to more consistently available when used in combination with one another. Usually, growers use a mix of about 20 percent worm castings with other organic agents to get a stong, readily available nitrogen base. During flowering, they fertilize with bat guano, the organic super-fertilizer.

i Prefer organic's but i dont care if i have to use chemicals.


USE COMPOST TEA!
 

videoman40

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Okay, well this is what I have come up with so far, as I get ready for a new grow. There appearantly 3 schools of thought. First, is to use chemical nutrients. At first glance, chemical nutrients seem like a wise alternative as they are very cost-effective. Organic's on the other hand proceed on the theory that plants should grow in a chemical free environment, just as they do in nature. Rather than me filling up this space with info for you to read, I am simply going to supply a few links for you to take the time to read...or not. Than I want to discuss the third option.
Are Cheap Chemical Fertilizers Really Cheap?

Would a 47 lb celery stalk interest you? (this is a short movie)

The third option, goes on the belief that feeding the roots is a loosing proposition. Feed the soil!

We have previously discussed the merits of adding molasses because it’s a great source of carbohydrates to stimulate the growth of beneficial microorganisms.

Making and feeding your plants a compost tea, seems to not only be the organic answer I am looking for, it seems to be the answer for increased plant growth, and to completely unlock the potentials of growing in soil.









Can you imagine a garden with 3 pound onions, carrots a foot long, 40 lb. cabbages, peas that look like marbles? Given an optimized soil environment, your fruits and vegetables can be simply amazing! Better tasting, bigger, healthier and more nutritious. John's many years of testing and scientific research can be your reward. His passion for growing has been brought to you in this all-natural product.

I now know how I want to grow next time!
Peace
 

Wigmo

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thats awesome vidman. the compost tea idea sounds badass. you think it would work to blow tons of bubbles through it with a big tube? haha just a thought.
 

cali-high

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lol

chemical has alot of uses instead of organic. 1 it dosnt smell as bad the only way i use organic is with my outside stuff
 

videoman40

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I am not exactly clear on what you meant here, however when you are making the compost tea, it does use a pump and a bubbler in it.

I think this is really exciting, and if your interests lie in maximizing yeild & quality, than this certainly deserves a serious look. I plan on buying a kit for myself asap.

thats awesome vidman. the compost tea idea sounds badass. you think it would work to blow tons of bubbles through it with a big tube? haha just a thought.
 

fdd2blk

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those veggies scare me. that can't be real. can you say nuclear. how far away is the power plant.

unbelievable !!!!!!!!!!
 

videoman40

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fdd, yr too funny! This guy is awesome, he's in the guinesss world book of records, I think like 9 times for the veggies he grows. He's won all sorts of awards too. What he is trying to promote makes total sense too.

"There is growing scientific evidence that compost tea produces results far beyond anything chemicals can achieve. My brother, John Evans, who lives in Alaska, has won nine world records for giant vegetables and over 400 first place awards for quality vegetables (click here for incredible pictures). He uses only an organic system based on a specially developed compost tea. A 19 pound carrot and a 75 pound Swiss chard are wonders to behold!"

Can you imagine a 19 lb carrot?

Peace
 

TillthedayiDIE420

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Okay, well this is what I have come up with so far, as I get ready for a new grow. There appearantly 3 schools of thought. First, is to use chemical nutrients. At first glance, chemical nutrients seem like a wise alternative as they are very cost-effective. Organic's on the other hand proceed on the theory that plants should grow in a chemical free environment, just as they do in nature. Rather than me filling up this space with info for you to read, I am simply going to supply a few links for you to take the time to read...or not. Than I want to discuss the third option.
Are Cheap Chemical Fertilizers Really Cheap?

Would a 47 lb celery stalk interest you? (this is a short movie)

The third option, goes on the belief that feeding the roots is a loosing proposition. Feed the soil!

We have previously discussed the merits of adding molasses because it’s a great source of carbohydrates to stimulate the growth of beneficial microorganisms.

Making and feeding your plants a compost tea, seems to not only be the organic answer I am looking for, it seems to be the answer for increased plant growth, and to completely unlock the potentials of growing in soil.









Can you imagine a garden with 3 pound onions, carrots a foot long, 40 lb. cabbages, peas that look like marbles? Given an optimized soil environment, your fruits and vegetables can be simply amazing! Better tasting, bigger, healthier and more nutritious. John's many years of testing and scientific research can be your reward. His passion for growing has been brought to you in this all-natural product.

I now know how I want to grow next time!
Peace
Thank you man, this helped this thread alot and we can all thank John :hump:

Has he grown weed with it? he lives in alaska and there allowed to grow 24 plants as personal property. 25 plants and the cops with give you a fine and jail time. but im buying some of his "special" ingredients :D
 

videoman40

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tilthedayIdie420, sorry you didnt appreciate the post and for hyjacking your thread, It wasnt my intention.
Peace
 

TillthedayiDIE420

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????? video i did appreciate it... you gave helpful information on organics i enjoyed it and im going to use this product this summer i wonder if it will make a 20foot tree?!?! :D
 

videoman40

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Ok geez, I misunderstood. I'm actually having a rough day today, so I am sure I just misinterpeted you. Again, I apologize.

It does look interesting, but before I jump into the deep end, I am checking them out, when I find out a positive, or negative report on them, I'll post it.
Peace
 

TillthedayiDIE420

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Grown indoor or out? and where do you live? Alaska has good conditions for that because of the light periods. But i know you can get results similar to that i personaly want to see weed grown in this, will it be a 20 foot tree? With 20ft Cola's shooting up! damn i want to see that.
 

videoman40

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He grows outdoors. As I read his website, there is a statement, rather the question is raised, are his veggies a result of the Alaskan soil or his tea? I hate to say the answer sucks...It goes on to say they arent sure, but you can buy both at his site! lol
I may call them tomorrow and have a talk.
Peace
 

TillthedayiDIE420

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Nice i guess im going to have to order the biggest bucket of soil and tea also and have a nice greenhouse crop :D or i might have to get a 20 foot tall green house custom built :P i hope it makes 20ft trees :D
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
I like to grow chemically inhanced products. I like chemicals better then poop even if its bad for me at least its not poop.I hate poop
 

TillthedayiDIE420

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It does not smell like poop and its healthy for you dude. you can use just the tea which is not "poop" with a mix of the soil... i dont use manure, i use worm castings, soil, perlite, sand, premix. im going to try this stuff out and think about changing.
 
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