"organic" water?

ohgoditsagrow

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my brother and i were arguing about watering an organic grow... he says that you have to use special water or some shit and not tap water for it to be organic... i saw nothing about this in the faq. is my grow organic if im using tap water?
 

LoudBlunts

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organic?

wow!!!!

i guess the closest thing would be rain water?

when i think of organic i think of natural....so i guess that would be ....
 

Seamaiden

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Anything not treated, which would preclude by necessity distilled water, might be commonly assumed to be "organic". But to determine whether or not tap water is organic one would have to know about the source and how it's handled. I know my tap water is organic because it comes out of the tap exactly in the same condition as it was the moment it was extracted from the ground. Fucking hard as SHIT, too.
 

420inmyapt

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R/O DI water is prolly the most "organic" you can get...... well it is the purest form of filtration out right now....
 

SnowWhite

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R/O DI water is prolly the most "organic" you can get...... well it is the purest form of filtration out right now....
R/O water is NOT organic. It has to go through a manufacturing/filtration process and there is soo much waste. Spring water (from a spring, not bottles) or rain water is what you need.
 

speedhabit

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Dude..seriously its F@#%ing water, no water is any more "organic" then the rest, thats just redic. Any water can work fine outside of a set of extreams
 

dr. green thumb

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ju water from a water bottle or if u want your water to be the most pure get a bucket fill it with water buy a bubbler for a fish tank that jus blows out air through a tube which will get rid of all impurities and leave you with the best water there is let it bubble for about 48 hours before you use the water
 

SnowWhite

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Dude..seriously its F@#%ing water, no water is any more "organic" then the rest, thats just redic. Any water can work fine outside of a set of extreams
I would explain but I can't be bothered.....you are very ignorant if that is really what you think.
 

Seamaiden

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organic doesnt mean it has to be pure.. im i wrong ?
loll
That's the thing, first we have to agree on how we're going to define organic. Pure, for many people (including myself) does not mean organic in the classic sense (to me). Organic means by methods or forms other than the hand of man. So, well water, spring, rain, or ground water are all the closest thing to "organic" types of water I can think of. Obviously some disagree.
ju water from a water bottle or if u want your water to be the most pure get a bucket fill it with water buy a bubbler for a fish tank that jus blows out air through a tube which will get rid of all impurities and leave you with the best water there is let it bubble for about 48 hours before you use the water
Ooo... sorry dr., but I can assure you unequivocally that there is NO way that simply passing air through the water via an airstone will get rid of all impurities (or even any impurities, the chlorine you're thinking of is going to dissipate whether there's circulation or not), even if you're using foam fractionation (also called protein skimming). I'm sorry, but that's just wrong and I felt I should clear it up.
 

420inmyapt

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R/O water is NOT organic. It has to go through a manufacturing/filtration process and there is soo much waste. Spring water (from a spring, not bottles) or rain water is what you need.
Alright, will did you not read the second sentence of my reply.... I revised my stance on R/O DI being organic, and just said its the purest. But how does waste water factor into being organic? and the process it goes through is just being passed through different membranes and filtered, I am talking about the home units, not the stuff you buy already processed.
 

Seamaiden

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Alright, will did you not read the second sentence of my reply.... I revised my stance on R/O DI being organic, and just said its the purest. But how does waste water factor into being organic? and the process it goes through is just being passed through different membranes and filtered, I am talking about the home units, not the stuff you buy already processed.
Depending on the muni doing the treatment, it may be being filtered entirely organically via a series of "natural" ponds (ponds that have plant and animal life established, whether dug out by man and/or filled by man, or naturally formed), or re-establishing estuarine and other marsh environments and passing the water through those areas instead of treatment ponds.

Would that work for you as far as helping to define?
 

SnowWhite

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Alright, will did you not read the second sentence of my reply.... I revised my stance on R/O DI being organic, and just said its the purest. But how does waste water factor into being organic? and the process it goes through is just being passed through different membranes and filtered, I am talking about the home units, not the stuff you buy already processed.
I guess it comes back to how you define organic. Personally, I don't think tap water is organic as it processed by the water companies. But I also think of it from an ecological point of view as well, and for me, if it is not ecological, then it is not really organic. These are just my personal feelings on it, but I don't class wasting 50% of my tap water as being very organic and I just collect rain water instead. :peace:
 

420inmyapt

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I guess it comes back to how you define organic. Personally, I don't think tap water is organic as it processed by the water companies. But I also think of it from an ecological point of view as well, and for me, if it is not ecological, then it is not really organic. These are just my personal feelings on it, but I don't class wasting 50% of my tap water as being very organic and I just collect rain water instead. :peace:

The only reason i have an R/O DI unit is because on my saltwater fish tanks. And i found that my water has an undetectable ppm once R/O DI, so basically 0 ppm, and my area my PH is 6.3 so it worked out perfectly. 50% is pretty bad, my R/O DI unit only have 33% waste or 1/3 of the water processed. But if your taking out impurities then why would you want that other 33% anyways, its going back to the city to be "re-processed" its not wasting it, I'm just paying more for my water thats all.

And yes organic is all what why you look at it.... for water at least LoL
 

sleepytown

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All I know is: If you guys are this worried about your water, you motherfuckers better not be using plastic pots.

S-Town

P.S. I use tap water. I also have so much smelly shit laying around my house that you can't smell the nugs over the bloodmeal. I consider it organic. Oh, and I use plastic pots.
 

420inmyapt

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All I know is: If you guys are this worried about your water, you motherfuckers better not be using plastic pots.

S-Town

P.S. I use tap water. I also have so much smelly shit laying around my house that you can't smell the nugs over the bloodmeal. I consider it organic. Oh, and I use plastic pots.
I'm not so much worried about my water, I just like to discuss aspects of growing.
 

Picasso345

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Dude..seriously its F@#%ing water, no water is any more "organic" then the rest, thats just redic. Any water can work fine outside of a set of extreams
You don't know what you are talking about. You managed to give bad advice and to insult him/her in one post. He didn't ask if any water would work fine, he asked what is organic. Water with added chemicals like fluoride, chlorine, PCBS, Lead, arsenic, etc matter to some people and are most definitely less organic than unadulterated water.
 

organick

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I AGREE WITH SPEED HABIT

My Dad called himself a "shade-tree mechanic" sometimes. But he always did the most quality work with the tools and materials available. Second Time Ive posted this today but I think definitions are in order.

Organic Production and Organic Food: Information Access Tools

I'm probably not cretified organic because my water district uses chlorine. I bubble it for outside and use a distilling and filtering machine by my house for indoor. I feel like a "shade-tree organic gardner", doing the best with the materials at hand.

My lifestyle is also relatively organic (heck next to my neighbor with a Hummer I'm a Buddist monk). I have no qualms with riding my bike to get RO water, I don't own a car, Alas, I may never own such an odious contraption as those fine metal boxes are defined at present.

Love and Peace. (and may we all learn to step lightly on the earth mother)
 
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