****OPTIC FOLIAR .....I LOVE THIS SHI*

Been growing for a few years and I know better than to get sucked in or bamboozled by special nutrients and additives etc ....

But I must say I am on my 11th bottle of this spray which is foliar feed it's like candy around my house great for seedlings or adult plants and it actually works really well .

You can spray with lights on with no issues at any time of the day it's not the cheapest stuff I pay $20 for 1 normal sized windex spray bottle .


But for any new grower out there or exp I highly recommend this product

Spray in the morning and you will notice a difference by the end of the day for sure .

Its foliar feed but claims to mask/fix deficiencies as well but most of all explosive foliar growth to the point where you absolutely can use to much and overgrow your fan leaves!

hipressure said:

Been growing for a few years and I know better than to get sucked in or bamboozled by special nutrients and additives etc ....

But I must say I am on my 11th bottle of this spray which is foliar feed it's like candy around my house great for seedlings or adult plants and it actually works really well .

You can spray with lights on with no issues at any time of the day it's not the cheapest stuff I pay $20 for 1 normal sized windex spray bottle .


But for any new grower out there or exp I highly recommend this product

Spray in the morning and you will notice a difference by the end of the day for sure .

Its foliar feed but claims to mask/fix deficiencies as well but most of all explosive foliar growth to the point where you absolutely can use to much and overgrow your fan leaves!

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What does that look like? Yellowing?

Not to sure I understand the question?

When you use to much the leaves never fully stand up anymore and you end up with droopy leaves but it's great for seedlings ....this company actually has a whole line of products which I have yet to try

Use to work at indoor garden depot in washington. When optic foliar owner/scientist Denesh (probably butchered his name) would come in and do his speal he would say that mixing 7.5ml per L of rev, megawatts, and transport that would make the overgrow product. Great products great people. I pretty sure he worked for Dutch master before creating optic foliar. I think he was sole creator of dutch master reverse which is now an optic foliar product.

I have also been told that atak is good for root rot in rdwc. Had one guy come in buy the crap out of it for that problem. Never tried myself as I don't do hydro and when I did rdwc and flood and drain I didn't have root rot. I'm sure if u have any questions email them at optic foliar or ask here this place is a wealth of knowledge.

Another cartoon character labelled bottle of stuff that you don't need.

I mix my own foliar with a bit of epsom salts and nitrogen

Yeah its a great product its been very useful for me as a beginner ...I would love to be mixing my own down the line .

Out of all the products out there there's no disputing this one works and if you are you havent used it .

hipressure said:

Out of all the products out there there's no disputing this one and if you are you havent used it .

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I dispute it.

I've been growing indoors for eight years and more than 20 outdoors, and while I've never used that product once, my plants are beautiful.

Therefore, it is not needed, and therefore its use is confirmed disputed.

Of course you do ...listen to yourself man like seriously nobody is disuputing your knowledge plants can grow without food but many use nutrients ...

Just because something is not needed your eyes other people can't discuss it ?

hipressure said:

Of course you do ...listen to yourself man like seriously nobody is disuputing your knowledge plants can grow without food but many use nutrients ...

Just because something is not needed your eyes other people can't discuss it ?

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Sure you can talk about it, but then you make claims like this:

" Out of all the products out there there's no disputing this one works and if you are you havent used it ."

What experience do you have with "all the products out there" for comparison? Have you tested the efficacy of all other products before making that claim? Plus, you were being passive aggressive by stating "there's no disputing this one works and if you are you haven't used it". I simply disputed the need for it.

I'm saying it isn't needed, I didn't say you can't discuss it. Too many people are buying and using stuff they don't need. Over feeding, sprays, mists, 15 bottles of nutrients... sigh.

Dude seriously....just looking to pick a fight eh

It’s banned in Canada I believe.

It was previously banned chemical removed now its for sale again from what I hear ...

hipressure said:

Dude seriously....just looking to pick a fight eh

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I couldn't care less how you spend your money, so no, I'm not picking anything. I was simply disputing what you said can't be disputed is all. You opened the door

You stated this product was better than all others out there, but yet you've provided no evidence at all (not even anecdotal) that you've done any tests whatsoever with any other product, let alone all of them. So realistically, you're recommending something that you yourself haven't even compared to anything else.

At least be honest and up front when you recommend something, so that new growers don't get the wrong idea. A statement such as this would have sufficed:

"I haven't compared this product to any other product on the market, but it works for me.".

Must be nice to be perfect spek

hipressure said:

Dude seriously....just looking to pick a fight eh

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Agree..lol..Some people are like that..I JUST tried the ATAK for PM and seems to be working.Nothing else did do i am now going try the optic foliar "Switch" for hemming proplem i had before with same plant but i love smoking this strain so i am growing it again.2 weeks in flower now with lots plants.

spek9 said:

I couldn't care less how you spend your money, so no, I'm not picking anything. I was simply disputing what you said can't be disputed is all. You opened the door

You stated this product was better than all others out there, but yet you've provided no evidence at all (not even anecdotal) that you've done any tests whatsoever with any other product, let alone all of them. So realistically, you're recommending something that you yourself haven't even compared to anything else.

At least be honest and up front when you recommend something, so that new growers don't get the wrong idea. A statement such as this would have sufficed:

"I haven't compared this product to any other product on the market, but it works for me.".

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Hello.This is my second ever post..I was searching the forms for ways to fight PM and tried most methods like ,milk,vinegar,etc.But then cam accros a claim that someone said use optic foliar "ATAH" and i did.All i can say after trying this 3 days ago i dont see any more PM so maybe it works? i hope.Had a hemi proplem with this plant i love has it gives no munchies and great high so i am growing again even though it will most likely hemi on me again.I used the optic foliar "shift" has its called in canada and "Switch" in USA.Am a 65 year old man who has proplems seeing so very hard these days to see the male pollen sacks.Growing old is crap,Eyes going bad/hearing getting worse/bones are hurting/pains and more pains..But thank god got lots time now to tend my plants..lol..God bless everone and thanks for all help i get here reading your forms..Am in remote town in newfoundland canada.

hipressure said:

Been growing for a few years and I know better than to get sucked in or bamboozled by special nutrients and additives etc ....

But I must say I am on my 11th bottle of this spray which is foliar feed it's like candy around my house great for seedlings or adult plants and it actually works really well .

You can spray with lights on with no issues at any time of the day it's not the cheapest stuff I pay $20 for 1 normal sized windex spray bottle .


But for any new grower out there or exp I highly recommend this product

Spray in the morning and you will notice a difference by the end of the day for sure .

Its foliar feed but claims to mask/fix deficiencies as well but most of all explosive foliar growth to the point where you absolutely can use to much and overgrow your fan leaves!

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Hello.This is my second ever post..I was searching the forms for ways to fight PM and tried most methods like ,milk,vinegar,etc.But then came across a claim that someone said use optic foliar "ATAH" and i did.All i can say after trying this 3 days ago i dont see any more PM so maybe it works? i hope.Had a hemi problem with this plant i love has it gives no munchies and great high so i am growing again even though it will most likely hemi on me again.I used the optic foliar "shift" has its called in canada and "Switch" in USA.Am a 65 year old man who has problems seeing so very hard these days to see the male pollen sacks.Growing old is crap,Eyes going bad/hearing getting worse/bones are hurting/pains and more pains..But thank god got lots time now to tend my plants..lol..God bless everyone and thanks for all help i get here reading your forms..Am in remote town in newfoundland canada.

Sam Lake said:

Agree..lol..Some people are like that..I JUST tried the ATAK for PM and seems to be working.Nothing else did do i am now going try the optic foliar "Switch" for hemming proplem i had before with same plant but i love smoking this strain so i am growing it again.2 weeks in flower now with lots plants.

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Don’t forget to buy the optic foliar transport so your switch will work some magic spray ain’t gunna help your genetics. Grow a new strain that doesn’t herm. And while your at it let’s not bring up old threads... assuming you know how people are like that here

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