Opium=marijuana
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420ganja420
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From the way the OP appears to look, (a teenager, probably no older than 15) i will not supply you with answers.
if anyone besides the OP has a question, feel free to ask. been growing poppies, harvesting opium, extracting morphine, making heroin, etc for years now.
if anyone besides the OP has a question, feel free to ask. been growing poppies, harvesting opium, extracting morphine, making heroin, etc for years now.
growwwww
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Ive got a question, are you some sort of lab doctor? or medical person? why are you making heroin? It just sounds a bit weird im only 19 but i have had a mate who got hooked on needles and shit and it completely fucked him up not nice. I know smoking opium is different though ive heard its just like a body buzz ect. But may i ask why you are making heroin? or is it being tooo nosy... sorry if it is.
TeaTreeOil
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Opium makes me feel completely euphoric and highly lethargic.
I look at it as a natural substance. Like cocaine could kill you, but you could chew coca leaves all day and it's actually somewhat healthy in moderation.
Then again, it goes the other way as well. Ergot is great to make LSD from, but plain ergot can kill you, and it's a bad way to die.
I look at it as a natural substance. Like cocaine could kill you, but you could chew coca leaves all day and it's actually somewhat healthy in moderation.
Then again, it goes the other way as well. Ergot is great to make LSD from, but plain ergot can kill you, and it's a bad way to die.
420ganja420
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Not pushy at all. I suppose you can call me a doctor of some kind. I am just your average run of the mill guy who deep down knows to much and does what he does best.
I consider myself more a botanist than a doctor. I have been around plants all my life and growing plants since I was 7.
I eventually got into growing exotic plants (such as rare types of acacia, salvia, etc) but that lead me into growing and extracting from or building off of plants.
during my time i've grown coca, poppies, cannabis, cacti, khat, iboga, and many many many other types of psychoactive plants.
in my grow times i've extracted cocaine (only once a few years back producing a quarter pound off 15 rather large plants that I had been growing for some years....a decade at most.
done the whole ibogaine thing (cleared up my opiate/morphine addiction for all of 15 days before i relapsed. i may give it another grow and extract if i see myself going out of control again.
experimented with cathine, cathinone, methcathinone, and methylcathinone all started with the khat plant.
experimented a lot with peyote (but it was taking about 5 years to produce the buttons. but i was making a lot of money off those buttons) and eventually did the whole san pedro thing
experimented with DMT and 5-MeO-DMT all starting from various acacia plants.
but now I mainly focus of poppies. I do work in a 'lab' if you want to call it that. but i am just one of many people who run things in his jurisdiction. (from poppy farmers/opium collectors, it comes to me where it gets processed into morphine and from there gets turned into heroin where it waits to be bought per kilo by some of your American business men who can afford it. which from there gets supplied to your dealers and then to you)
I do not consider what I do a secret nor shameful. through an economic decline it's all we can do to make money. the economy may fall but the need for drugs never does and therefore its a 100% safe (money wise) investment.
If you must know I have been prisoned for 15 years for possession, conspiracy to manufacture and distribution. I live in luxury now and all i do is watch as people bring me money, smoking my ganja, and listening to blissful music.
anymore questions?
bicycle racer
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eat too much opium and youll fall asleep your breathing will stop and youll be be dead quick just because somethings 'natural' does not mean it wont kill you. ive nearly o.d. on poppy tea trust me dont take any substance lightly. beer is natural jimson weed is natural ephedra is natural etc.. etc. they all can kill. i could list others. kids should not be on here or at least kids too dumb to not ask dumb questions.
420ganja420
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Ah I know what you mean in your opium description. just makes me feel relaxed, clear headed, and as I smoke more, the more my life becomes a dream.
that is the way we should all see it. if it is natural, it is the way god left it for us. I do not believe we should do such things to plants as isolate their active alkaloids and abuse them or mutate them. but we do what we have to do to make a living and spice up life.
as far as Ergot goes to making a wonderful substance such as LSD, some things just need to be changed to make them better for us and some things should just be avoided.
bicycle racer
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yeah good luck smoke or ingest opium for a few days in succession and then stop see how great life seems then while your detoxing laying in bed feeling horrible. what goes up must come down thats life.
420ganja420
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while that is true, these kids should have the common sense to see what they are getting themselves into before doing anything. know how it will effect them and how much they should do (if at all)
your first mistake was making poppy tea. there is no way to measure out how much your getting (unless your like me. when i score my pods (which is rare i will actually score them) i normally get 70mg-80mg of opium. I take great care of my poppies and i can get up to 90mg-100mg when completely extracting so i know, "hey there must be between 20mg-30mg left in this pod" and from there I can brew a tea using the highest number i can possible have. So knowing i have a max of 30mg left in the pod I just use that number.)
So lets say i use my 20 pods with up to 30mg in each one. thats a max of 600mg and i know i am not getting anymore.
bottom line is if you didnt grow it and know what it can yield, its better if you not abuse it.
bicycle racer
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thats all true as far as ingestion goes. but if you use opiates for a number of days youll be suffering when you dont. detoxing cant be avoided. also they have to many side effects constipation irritability etc... i know too many dead people to say opiates are easy to play with without problems. risk versus reward with oipiates is a losing battle. its not called chasing the dragon for nothing at some point the dragons going to turn around and bite you.
420ganja420
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perhaps you are on of the kids here that have no idea what he's talking about. EVERYONE has a different reaction to a drug. I know a man he used heroin for over 3 years and quit cold turkey. I have smoked opium for days straight (smoke it 6-7 times a day for a couple days) and i have yet to get addicted to it. I know people who snort cocaine on a daily basis (because they can afford to) and can stop when they dont want any or cant afford it at the time..
you cant just tell people if they smoke it straight for a few days and stop they are going to have horrible withdrawals because it is ABSOLUTELY not true. While opiate withdrawals may be tough, its not unbearable. and if worse comes to worse, try ibogaine. cleared up my complete addiction to morphine, made my tolerance a complete 0, and held it down for quite a while. If i didnt have the morphine in my possession i probably would of never used it again..
no withdrawals with ibogaine. just a weird trip with some minor vomit and a new life at the end.
bicycle racer
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you seem a little defensive whys that? if thats how you see healthy life good luck. taking 1 drug to have an easier time detoxing off another is just silly and makes my point clearer. sad do what you will but dont defend opiates i have seen there effects on once strong men and women. have fun with your ibogain sounds like a fun lifestyle denial makes things worse.
420ganja420
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defensive, no. irritated that some guy can go about posting out of his ass like he knows what he is talking about and what he knows will happen to a person if he/she does a drug, yes.
i as well as many others see life like that. just because your modernized and controlled by your system doesnt mean we all are.
if you look up, or if you had a brain, you would know that using another drug to treat an addiction is what they use to do back in earlier times and still do today.
for example, a morphine addict back in the day would get cocaine prescribed to treat his/her addiction. someone with marriage troubles would go get ecstasy. and so on.
but now, someone with an opiate addiction normally gets treated with therapy and doses of either the same drug (loosing a little of the dose every day) or a drug to combat the 'need.' (i.e: heroin users sometimes get hydrocodone to help with the withdrawals).
so that shows how little you know about the subject.
and for some reason, i highly doubt you have any idea what your talking and claiming BS on the whole "i have seen there effects on once strong men and women." more like you see what the government wants you to see (the typical drug addict suffering from the addiction.) thats what we call propaganda. scare the child away from drug so he will think that he will go through that if he uses the drug.
do the research on the substance before you talk about it.
do the substance
report on it
stop posting out of your ass because it makes you look completely idiotic.
as far as ibogaine use goes, its not something you take for fun. the experience is mostly far from fun, its something you do to help with a problem.
the research proves my point. using it on an opiate addiction wont make things worse. its not addicting and it only takes one dose to end the addiction. no need to abuse it (unless you like throwing up and being completely out of this world)
tl;dr:
stop posting out of your ass
your looking stupid right about now
do research or some testing
report back in 4 or 5 years when you hit puberty.
bicycle racer
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i do know what im talking about from my own experience and those of others you making assumptions about me over the internet makes me laugh. good luck with your opiate addiction fun lifestyle to live the envy of all.
growwwww
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You're a cunt with pride, more or less.
growwwww
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Oh and a cunt whos friends with rich loosers who havent got much to do with there life but do coke and heroin coz it gives them something to do and they buy the shit off you or something. Jeeeez and you make not point saying that they can stop when they dont want any.... thats great but not doing it could still affect them like a bitch. Cocain is dirty shit aswell it makes people dicks and pisses off all there mates and stuff. Anyway you seem like your living one hell of a life brother, one hell of a sad life.
Sorry man if im sound deep or anything but i think its good for you to know what people think of you and im also seeing other people who are confused about you aswell, or confused about what your trying to see.
Take it easy bro, seriously.
TeaTreeOil
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Woah.... What's with all the judging and condemnation? Did RIU become a church or something? 
shepj
Oracle of Hallucinogens
All right, although I do agree that one should be careful and that many people do not respect opiates/opioids enough and/or have the responsibility to say "no" when it's needed... the portrayal of everyone who using an opiate going onto harder opiate use or becoming an addict is a little rediculous. If someone (even though I agree, this guy needs to study his shit) is responsible, they can use any drug within a safe margin and not have to worry about an addiction. But like I say, responsibility is the factor, not the drug itself.
kalublevi
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I have smoked it its pretty sweet i just felt like i smoked the dankest weed i could find you just feel fucked up high i have never felt addicted to it but then again i have never felt addicted to anything if you have a addictive personality be careful im not going to tell you not to do it thats a little hypocritical and i dont think all the people that havent tried it should tell anyone not to its straight its just a thing you do every once in a while mix it with some weed you will feel great im just going to say dont smoke like you smoke weed its not a everyday thing but have fun be safe