Opinions on green and cyan with whites

mauricem00

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Cree 470nm and 500nm mixed w/ lm561c 3000k & 4000k

Any thoughts?
white leds have plenty of green light. violet leds are very inefficient and don't last long. you would be better off supplementing 3000k with 660nm diodes and using these for violet, bright blue and UV https://www.ebay.com/itm/T5-BULBS-T5HO-HIGH-OUTPUT-FLUORESCENT-LAMP-2-4-ft-GROW-BLOOM-UV-1-4-8-25-packs/160895821950?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&var=460130683601&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649. UVA plus bulbs
 

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VegasWinner

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So, I actually am adding various spectrums as options. I currently have far and photo red options, uva 365-405nm options, and mostly Samsung 3000k/4000k .

I am adding 420nm , 500nm, 520nm and full spectrums to stretch the ir out to 840nm
Each spectrum, not wavelength, gets a switch and timer
I added Deep Red 650nm, Royal Blue 460nm, and UVA 385nm. I tried 365nm but not as good as the 385nm. UVA 385nm adds color flavor, etc. I use thbe DR and RB along with my Samsung white light; 3000k and 5000k board equal mix two channels, 192 diodes each channel.

I had my own Deep Red and Royal Blue boards using SunPLus 20 Horticulture diodes manufactured. I tested with stars I used to make a pcb first. I liked the outcome.

Based on my testing I am adding two channels; 48 Deep Red diodes, two channels Royal Blue, 24 diodes, and two channels of UVA 8 diodes to my 2x4 grow light for additional light spectrum not provided by white light.
 

Stephenj37826

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white leds have plenty of green light. violet leds are very inefficient and don't last long. you would be better off supplementing 3000k with 660nm diodes and using these for violet, bright blue and UV https://www.ebay.com/itm/T5-BULBS-T5HO-HIGH-OUTPUT-FLUORESCENT-LAMP-2-4-ft-GROW-BLOOM-UV-1-4-8-25-packs/160895821950?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&var=460130683601&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649. UVA plus bulbs
Violet leds are actually getting better rather quickly. The package material in the 5730 is the problem. I think they will have a 3030 that fixes these problems shortly if not already. I'm not advocating to use a ton of them. Maybe 5%. The phosphorous mixture specifically for the longer wavelengths. This way you still achieve the efficacy of the blue pumped white and just fill in the gaps with the violet pumped leds. We'll be building a few boards for testing in a month or two and I will of course share the results.
 

mauricem00

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Violet leds are actually getting better rather quickly. The package material in the 5730 is the problem. I think they will have a 3030 that fixes these problems shortly if not already. I'm not advocating to use a ton of them. Maybe 5%. The phosphorous mixture specifically for the longer wavelengths. This way you still achieve the efficacy of the blue pumped white and just fill in the gaps with the violet pumped leds. We'll be building a few boards for testing in a month or two and I will of course share the results.
I can only find data on white 3030smds.are these available in 470, 430 and 380 NM?where can I find a data sheet on them? who sells them? a few years ago TRW was working on a white diode using a UVA diode to pump a tri-phosphor blend that that provide full spectrum white light from 400-680nm. these were made for photographic work and had a very high CRI but had an efficiency of only 20%. until UV diodes can exceed 30% efficiency at a reasonable cost T5s will remain a more cost effective way to cover this portion of the spectrum.
 
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Stephenj37826

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I can only find data on white 3030smds.are these available in 470, 430 and 380 NM?where can I find a data sheet on them? who sells them? a few years ago TRW was working on a white diode using a UVA diode to pump a tri-phosphor blend that that provide full spectrum white light from 400-680nm. these were made for photographic work and had a very high CRI but had an efficiency of only 20%. until UV diodes can exceed 30% efficiency at a reasonable cost T5s will remain a more cost effective way to cover this portion of the spectrum.
Yuji
 
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