Opinions on Defoliation During Flower

CDubFMG

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just started a grow 3 days ago seed just sprouted ? is just a fem seed or Auto flower as diong auto flowerand was goingto give this a try ps how my time have you done this to your girl ,Bud
I decided a few years ago that I wanted to really get into growing Autos. Before that I was finding them hard to work with and was seeing a lot of failure. Now I've got a few tips. With Autos, I find I have time for 2 prunes maximum before they flip (usually around 2-4 weeks veg):
1) Top the Auto once when you've got enough nodes to do so (see pic). This is very important or you won't get any shape
2) Do one more snip once the nodes have grown out (if you're lucky)
3) Complete transplanting BEFORE/the moment you see pre-flowers. Do not transplant or snip once pre-flowering begins
*I've attached pics from an Auto snipped twice and transplanted just as pre-flowers appeared (Strawberry Cough Auto, Sonoma Seeds)
 

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wee_m

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I'm not growing auto's, so this probably wouldn't be ideal for them... honestly not sure.

It is ideal for keeping photo period mother plants manageable so one can take clones every couple weeks.
well thanks for the reply ,will defo do on my next run of fen critical purple kush fem seeds as said cheers for reply buddy happy growing :weed:
 

wee_m

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I decided a few years ago that I wanted to really get into growing Autos. Before that I was finding them hard to work with and was seeing a lot of failure. Now I've got a few tips. With Autos, I find I have time for 2 prunes maximum before they flip (usually around 2-4 weeks veg):
1) Top the Auto once when you've got enough nodes to do so (see pic). This is very important or you won't get any shape
2) Do one more snip once the nodes have grown out (if you're lucky)
3) Complete transplanting BEFORE/the moment you see pre-flowers. Do not transplant or snip once pre-flowering begins
*I've attached pics from an Auto snipped twice and transplanted just as pre-flowers appeared (Strawberry Cough Auto, Sonoma Seeds)
I decided a few years ago that I wanted to really get into growing Autos. Before that I was finding them hard to work with and was seeing a lot of failure. Now I've got a few tips. With Autos, I find I have time for 2 prunes maximum before they flip (usually around 2-4 weeks veg):
1) Top the Auto once when you've got enough nodes to do so (see pic). This is very important or you won't get any shape
2) Do one more snip once the nodes have grown out (if you're lucky)
3) Complete transplanting BEFORE/the moment you see pre-flowers. Do not transplant or snip once pre-flowering begins
*I've attached pics from an Auto snipped twice and transplanted just as pre-flowers appeared (Strawberry Cough Auto, Sonoma Seeds)
@ CDubFMG wee auto looking good ,,on last grow with autos topped 1 (wish i never) only 1 new flower grew and stunned the growth for least 4,5 day don't get me wrong have topped before with no prob ,but i prefer LST bent to 45 degrees tie each branch down bit each to to there own and yest plant sitting in toilet pan for the run off lol plant still have 3 weeks to good was Alaskan Auto happy growing buddy
 

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Don't Bogart

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No, don't do it. Defolition is a result of our loving a plant too much. Trying to beat mother nature is fools gold, regardless of how much human energy has been consumed to prove otherwise.
Do actual farmers go out and remove the solar panels from their plant, regardless of species? They dont. You shouldn't either.
O.K. So I've gone round and round about this defoliate thing. I generally do not. That's not to say I know what I'm doing. But I'm kinda siding with not defoliating. Oh I may remove some fan leaves from time to time but I feel you are removing solar panels. That's there job, right?
Recently I had a plant that developed an issue in which practically all the leaves browned up and fell off. The buds came out like pine cones. Great smoke. Gave some to a friend and he wanted to buy it all from me. But then, in retrospect, he buys everything I grow.
I just think, you cut, you stress.
You put all this loving into them. Checking nutes, lights, PH, heat. Then you cut there limbs off.
Now to argue the other way, I trim a lot of plants on my property. Rhododendrons I'll trim to fill in the bush. I'll trim trees to again have it fill in. I'll trim away trees around one tree I want to grow more.
But wait, the Rhodie, I know that if I trim properly I'll get more flowers next year. I also know, from experience, that if I trim too much the bush visibly stresses and the "yield" gets reduced. Worse yet, I'll kill it. It seems more effort is put into healing than flowering.
For most plants cutting away leaves and letting in light will promote growth to fill in that void to gather the light coming through it. Does that mean you cut away fan leaves to promote fan leaves?
Actually you’re wrong. If you don’t prune the suckers off tomato plants and excess foliage you get smaller fruit and it gets diseased faster. So..
But we promote that type of growth on pot plants. We top the plants in early development to push "suckers".
I'm not arguing or even just saying one way is better than another. I really want the best for my plants. I can only use what I do with my garden and advice on this site and cross my fingers.
But then, really, I don't want what's best for my plants, I want whats best for me.
 

wee_m

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O.K. So I've gone round and round about this defoliate thing. I generally do not. That's not to say I know what I'm doing. But I'm kinda siding with not defoliating. Oh I may remove some fan leaves from time to time but I feel you are removing solar panels. That's there job, right?
Recently I had a plant that developed an issue in which practically all the leaves browned up and fell off. The buds came out like pine cones. Great smoke. Gave some to a friend and he wanted to buy it all from me. But then, in retrospect, he buys everything I grow.
I just think, you cut, you stress.
You put all this loving into them. Checking nutes, lights, PH, heat. Then you cut there limbs off.
Now to argue the other way, I trim a lot of plants on my property. Rhododendrons I'll trim to fill in the bush. I'll trim trees to again have it fill in. I'll trim away trees around one tree I want to grow more.
But wait, the Rhodie, I know that if I trim properly I'll get more flowers next year. I also know, from experience, that if I trim too much the bush visibly stresses and the "yield" gets reduced. Worse yet, I'll kill it. It seems more effort is put into healing than flowering.
For most plants cutting away leaves and letting in light will promote growth to fill in that void to gather the light coming through it. Does that mean you cut away fan leaves to promote fan leaves?

But we promote that type of growth on pot plants. We top the plants in early development to push "suckers".
I'm not arguing or even just saying one way is better than another. I really want the best for my plants. I can only use what I do with my garden and advice on this site and cross my fingers.
But then, really, I don't want what's best for my plants, I want whats best for me.
i don't mind removing some bottom leave ,them amd only them if mother natural did wamt theses leave there they would be there ok prob end up with more pop corn but as i say if its green its keen then all is good ,amd what you say about takem to many off will hurt final yield if u go lightly all should be fine with no stunned growth .....PEACE
 

thegreywind

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But we promote that type of growth on pot plants. We top the plants in early development to push "suckers".
I'm not arguing or even just saying one way is better than another. I really want the best for my plants. I can only use what I do with my garden and advice on this site and cross my fingers.
But then, really, I don't want what's best for my plants, I want whats best for me.
Yes we do, to a degree. We also “lollipop” below the canopy which is getting rid of suckers that won’t produce bud that’s worth taking away energy from the main colas and other buds that get more light and will get denser and bigger than anything beneath the canopy. It’s all the same principle, it’s just up to the grower/farmer to decide how they want their plant to produce. Some people like two or three giant colas, other people like lots of dense, smaller buds.
 
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