Sgt. Floyd
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Its certainly not impossible. Somebody is making it somewhere. I think its just too easy to make meth instead.
opinion on LSD
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Inkslinger118
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Idk. I've always wanted to try it. But then again it's fairly hard to obtain, compared to my access to marijuana.
You know about 15 years ago you could find it everywhere.
hom36rown
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That is when William Pickard was still around.
Sgt. Floyd
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You'd think this would be an incentive to produce. And because doses are so small you can transport a large amount pretty easily.
Ganjaglutin
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Yah It's Possible To Synthesize With LSA. But Extracting Lysergamides From Ergot Is What _ Do. WAY More Ergotamine And Such. Annoying To Do But With A Large Enough Amount Of Ergot It Is Well Worth It.i dunno bout this one.... depends on where you live and what circles you hang in i suppose... but im with the other GG here... i am a firm believer that it is possible/practical to do a bit of research/guided-self teaching to produce a, maybe (well, most likely) not lsd-25, but a close enough rendition of the substance to produce the required effects... have yet to really dive into it yet, but it is all here....
http://www.drugs-forum.com/chemistry/chemistry/index.html
im thinking the easiest route would be to extract lsa from natural sources and then use that as the main precursor, go from there?? not too well versed in chemistry atm... but i learn anything i put my mind to very quickly...... maybe not acid, but im sure i can pull off some more simple hallucinogenic synthesis.....
theres allways the san pedro/mescaline extraction.... i KNOW i can pull THAT kitchen chemistry off.... and have yet to try mesc for some reason
gogrow
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but where does one get the ergot?? i know where to find LSA.......
and to the "needing expensive equipment and the degrees"... yes you need equipment, that does cost money.... but not a degree... most of our historical genius greats were self taught; take enough time and care, and you can learn anything.... the way i see it, i dont need to know exactly WHAT i am doing, just need to know HOW to do it... (much like the rednecks cooking up meth.... definately some decent chemistry going on, which most of them know nothing about... but anybody can follow a recipe... under the right conditions of course...... and for the precursors, that is the beauty of chemistry.... every chemical can be made, (precursors to precursors to etc), until you get down to a manageable (to find and use) chemical to use as your starting point......
do some research on my link above..... you may soon start to see my point of view..... the directions are there... just gotta use the wonderful resource that is the internet to help teach one's self the desired course topic
Sgt. Floyd
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Someone needs to get to work. The world NEEDS acid.
gogrow
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well come on bro... i need a partner.... from what i understand, TRUE lsd-25 cannot be made with just one chemist.......... yeah, i've been thinking hard about this for months
..... probably have to start with a simpler synthesis than lsd though
Sgt. Floyd
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I'll start reading up on the subject. More so than I have been. I've been thinking about this for a while now as well.
Ganjaglutin
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Where I Live There's ALOT Of Wild Ergot. I Could EASILY Go Right Now And With Some Work Procure Half A Pound Of Ergot With Some Driving, Looking, And Picking In An Hour. It's All Over.but where does one get the ergot?? i know where to find LSA.......
and to the "needing expensive equipment and the degrees"... yes you need equipment, that does cost money.... but not a degree... most of our historical genius greats were self taught; take enough time and care, and you can learn anything.... the way i see it, i dont need to know exactly WHAT i am doing, just need to know HOW to do it... (much like the rednecks cooking up meth.... definately some decent chemistry going on, which most of them know nothing about... but anybody can follow a recipe... under the right conditions of course...... and for the precursors, that is the beauty of chemistry.... every chemical can be made, (precursors to precursors to etc), until you get down to a manageable (to find and use) chemical to use as your starting point......
do some research on my link above..... you may soon start to see my point of view..... the directions are there... just gotta use the wonderful resource that is the internet to help teach one's self the desired course topic
The Equipment Needed To Make LSD Is What Detracts Your Common Tripper From Making It. But Alot Of People On Here Have The Money To Do It. There Problem Is The Precursor. Like You Said.
But With 10 Grams Of LSA You Might Be Able To Get A Third Of That Weight Back As LSD. 3.33 Grams Of Acid. Imagine.
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml
That's The Recipe For LSD-25. The One Hoffman Gave Shulgin To Make.
But This Is All Theoretical. You Have To Put It Into Practice.
Sgt. Floyd
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3,330,000 micrograms with dosages at what, 150-200 micrograms? Holy shit. What about growing ergot? I've only seen one article that tells how to do it. Everything else just says its nearly impossible.
Ganjaglutin
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Dude, You Don't Want To Try A Ergot Extraction, You'd Get Pissed, Then You'd Fuck It Up, Then You'd Really Get Pissed.
Ganjaglutin
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Yah, 150 Micrograms Is About The Perfect Dose.
Sgt. Floyd
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How were they making so much of the stuff in the 60's? I know the precursors were a lot easier to acquire in sufficient volume. What was it?
Sgt. Floyd
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It's too bad you can't run down to the hardware store and pick up a gallon.
Ganjaglutin
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Hoffman Was Making It, Owsley Was Making It, Ken Kesey Was Stealing A Lot Of It, Colledge Chemistry Proffesors Were Making It, The CIA Was Making It, Everybody Was Trying There Hands At It. Then In The Early 80's Pickard And Apperson Started Turning Out A Kilo Every 5 Weeks. There's Been Alot Of Acid Out There Man.
Sgt. Floyd
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1 kilo = 1,000,000,000 micrograms. 666,667 150 microgram hits. The numbers are pretty amazing. Hopefully there are a few pissed off, laid off chemist out there.