Open Show & Tell , Outdoors 2013

TWS

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Hey everyone its awesome to hear people have been using milk and it working out for them. I have a similar method i use for pm that I've adapted from "Korean natural farming".
Basically you make a rice wash, which can contain million of different bacteria some good some bad. then here is where the milk comes in! you add your rice wash to whatever milk is avail, cow, goat, human (have yet to try but remember this is natural farming in places without refrigeration and often times electricity!), can even be evaporated dry milk!
basically by adding the dairy we are isolating the lacto b cultures most beneficial in protecting our gardens from mold, blights, etc. once you mix the rice wash and milk in a 5 gal bucket, (i usually do about 3 gals of organic whole milk from grocery to roughly 1qt rice wash) you cover it with a CLEAN tshirt ;) or even cheesecloth if you have it and let it sit for anywhere from 24-72hrs depending on the ambient room temp. once you remove the CLEAN tshirt you will notice a giant floating CHEESE LOG in your bucket! CONGRATULATIONS YOU'VE JUST MADE FARMERS CHEESE!!! this can be mixed with herbs and kept for human consumption (kind of like cottage cheese that you can press the water out of and make a paste and flavor to eat as a spread on some crustinis), or you can do as i do most often and feed it to your livestock your chickens even your dogs! The end goal being that you have strained said "cheese" from the remaining liquid. What you are left with is nothing short of gods gift to growers in serum form! It is pure lacto culture without the fatty residual of milk, all created and obtained from natural sources. You take your serum (i usually get about 2 3/4 gal left over) and put pour it back into your gallon jugs and store it in the fridge. if you have no fridge you mix your strained cheese free serum 1:1 with molasses. This technique has been proven to keep lacto culture serums potent and alive but dormant for years!!
I keep mine in the fridge and when i go to use it i will generally make a 5 gal batch to foliar spray. The ratio of serum to non clorinated water is 1:20!!! Same shit as serenade but doesnt smell like shit!
When you mix your lacto be sure to use clean ph'd non-clorinated water, and add 5ml or 1 tsp molasses per gal of h2o as a food source for your lacto culture.
This method was taught to me by an organic cannabis grower who managed greenhouses for cancer and aids/hiv patients, who need pure 100% organic mold free medicine. Under his supervision I knew of 5 patients who lost there battle to cancer and aids, but they had as much organic meds as they could consume until the very end.
Fuck spraying Eagle 20 and telling your patients or buyers that its "clean". I'm so sick of that dg2f grower mentality.
EDUCATE YOURSELF! You AND your garden are WORTH IT!
Happy growing to ALL!

ps i will drink a shot of serum 1-2x a month and my guts could digest a whole cow in a day, also mix it in with my chickens water and it keeps their chutes clean ;)
most awesome ! :weed:
 

TWS

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Since thread title does not specify plant types, thought I would share my other trees. If I didn't have so many neighbors...these trees would be cannabis:

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Pic 2 is a rose bush I planted like 8 years ago, behind the ivy I put in to cover the neighbor's shitty looking garage.
Pic 3 is called bee balm, just walked through a field of it(native wildflower)watering my "other garden".
Pics 4 and 5 are appropriately called jack-o-lanterns...they stay orange all the way til' halloween.

I hate those evergreen shrubs, but need them for my Christmas display.

Happy Day!
You have some skills ! you'd be dangerous at home. :weed: :clap:
 

jpbeach28

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I need some help plz guys. We had a big storm last night and monsoon rain all night and well into the morning. I just went out and took some pics of my issues. Wondering what this bug is that been hanging out. Got a few fan leaves that don't look to good. Anyways need help with these issues plz. Two grows. Og#18 is the only one having these issues. The pineapple skunk in the 5 gallon bucket is also quite further along in bud formation. Its typically a quicker & bigger producer tho. Again help much appreciated.
 

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First pic. Abandon Rooftop, plant is almost 2 weeks into flower. Spot should pull though. No reasons for anyone else to climb to this location.
Second pic. Update on first tree set up. No flowers yet :/
Third +4th pics. Black widow clones, flash back 20 days prior. Middle clone in 3rd pic is now outside hardening in a temp location.
 

Bakatare666

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I need some help plz guys. We had a big storm last night and monsoon rain all night and well into the morning. I just went out and took some pics of my issues. Wondering what this bug is that been hanging out. Got a few fan leaves that don't look to good. Anyways need help with these issues plz. Two grows. Og#18 is the only one having these issues. The pineapple skunk in the 5 gallon bucket is also quite further along in bud formation. Its typically a quicker & bigger producer tho. Again help much appreciated.
Looks like maybe a couple things going on.
The second pic looks like mine when I have a Ca and a K deficiency, but pic one, do you see any bugs under the leafs or around the main stalk?
Or is that just an older leaf that started out like pic number 2?
I know all that didn't happen overnight, and not rain related........
 
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TWS

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I need some help plz guys. We had a big storm last night and monsoon rain all night and well into the morning. I just went out and took some pics of my issues. Wondering what this bug is that been hanging out. Got a few fan leaves that don't look to good. Anyways need help with these issues plz. Two grows. Og#18 is the only one having these issues. The pineapple skunk in the 5 gallon bucket is also quite further along in bud formation. Its typically a quicker & bigger producer tho. Again help much appreciated.
Gonna take a guess here, The first pic looks like caterpillars, the second pic since it is an OG which can be cal-mag pigs, could be the issue. Hope it's not leaf spot.
 

jpbeach28

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No just that one bug. None under the leaves. And yeah they were the lowest leaves on the plant exept for the one with the holes that's at the top. No catapillars. I looked hard for em b/c they destroyed my maters this year. So what just give it more nutes in general or C & K specific.
 

jpbeach28

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I gues it could be what you said about catapillars but they typically ravage things stems and all. Maybe the monsoon I mentiond washed em away?
 

fr3d12

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I need some help plz guys. We had a big storm last night and monsoon rain all night and well into the morning. I just went out and took some pics of my issues. Wondering what this bug is that been hanging out. Got a few fan leaves that don't look to good. Anyways need help with these issues plz. Two grows. Og#18 is the only one having these issues. The pineapple skunk in the 5 gallon bucket is also quite further along in bud formation. Its typically a quicker & bigger producer tho. Again help much appreciated.
Pic #2 looks like the leaf spot disease my plants have but I'm not saying that's what you have.
Apart from the storm has your weather been wet and humid?
Check other trees and plants to see if it's on them.
Sorry man not trying to spook you or anything but early detection is vital on the off chance that's what it is.
 

Bakatare666

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No just that one bug. None under the leaves. And yeah they were the lowest leaves on the plant exept for the one with the holes that's at the top. No catapillars. I looked hard for em b/c they destroyed my maters this year. So what just give it more nutes in general or C & K specific.
Sorry bro.
I know I got bad eyes, but I'm just not seeing a bug.
Your first leaf looks like my diesel's leaves that were Ca. hungry but I had a lot of rain so I couldn't feed, and now the yellow spots are old and the leafs look like shit.Aug10SDtops_zps55223ed7.jpg
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I know it's hard to tell, my pic is too far away, but they had started out just like your second pic.
Like you mentioned in next post though, it IS possible that the rain washed away the buggies.
 

jpbeach28

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Yes I live on the beach so this tine of the year we have small saily storms.how do I cure or remedy leaf spot desease? Also any suggestions on Ca & ka products?
 

jpbeach28

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Also why don't you feed on schedule when you've had rain. I have always just thought of it as nature flushing my plants.... is that a totally wrong way of looking at that?
 

jpbeach28

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My regular feed has just been the recipie for success by techna flora.. anyways the overall plant looks healthy so if I have problems I wanna act fast. So would really appreciate advice on determining if it is indeed leaf spot desease and if so what the curre/remedy is. Or if I just need more Ca & Ka and what would be good products for all the above mentioned issues. Sorry to be needy. I'm just still new. Much appreciated!
 

MojoRison

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My regular feed has just been the recipie for success by techna flora.. anyways the overall plant looks healthy so if I have problems I wanna act fast. So would really appreciate advice on determining if it is indeed leaf spot desease and if so what the curre/remedy is. Or if I just need more Ca & Ka and what would be good products for all the above mentioned issues. Sorry to be needy. I'm just still new. Much appreciated!
After doing some research on my problem I've found that the remedies they suggest for PM are the same for leaf spot and other plant issues {for the most part anyways}. So I think you could get some resolution by getting the product Green Cure as mentioned earlier in this thread by others, it's not available in my area so I'm trying something different.
 

Bakatare666

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Also why don't you feed on schedule when you've had rain. I have always just thought of it as nature flushing my plants.... is that a totally wrong way of looking at that?
Up until this grow, I've had a schedule, but this time I am trying to only feed when they want it and see how that works.
I am outdoors, with a LOT of, and frequent rain that shouldn't be here right now (we're already something like 26" over our norm, and one night I had a monsoon like you, and I got over 5 1/2" in under 50 minutes), but I don't like them to be wet constantly, so I'm at the mercy of the rain.
I AM in 5 gal. pots, but due to neighbor nosiness, I am limited as to where I can move them, and I keep thinking the rain will quit "this week", so I don't build a shelter.
 

Bakatare666

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My regular feed has just been the recipie for success by techna flora.. anyways the overall plant looks healthy so if I have problems I wanna act fast. So would really appreciate advice on determining if it is indeed leaf spot desease and if so what the curre/remedy is. Or if I just need more Ca & Ka and what would be good products for all the above mentioned issues. Sorry to be needy. I'm just still new. Much appreciated!
You can Google leaf spot, and cures, or maybe somebody here knows, but I've not had it that I know of.
As far as feeding, I would just up your bloom nutes a little, and add some Cal/ Mag, or for Ca, what I use is called Maxi-cal.
 

fr3d12

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Yes I live on the beach so this tine of the year we have small saily storms.how do I cure or remedy leaf spot desease? Also any suggestions on Ca & ka products?
Well be sure you have it first, as I said if one type of plant has it all plants in your garden will probably have it also.
I'm no expert on it having only noticed it recently on my plants but from what I've read and from experience copper based fungicides seem to work best at holding it at bay.
The link below will direct you to a very informative thread on it, many on there recommend liquid copper or copper soap.
I haven't been able to get either locally so have had to make do with copper sulphate and it has slowed it down.
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https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=184996
 
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