One Pink Lemonade - no-till cycle 7 in 4 foot diameter pot, 5x5 tent

Northwood

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Two more weeks!:D
Hey considering she survived all those days and nights of the torture, she might last more than 2 weeks now :P So not sure about 2 weeks, but I will guess 'bout a pound upon harvest. Lol

The snow has melted and the temperature got as high as 10 degrees C this afternoon, so spring might be coming after all! It might not even freeze tonight. I took this photo today:

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Not a scratch, mark, or spot on her. Even the cotyledons still look fresh. These plants never fail to amaze me even after all these years.
 

Nutty sKunK

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Well I tried to tell it... but that damn plant just wouldn't listen to me! Like WTF. -2 degrees C this morning.

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Maybe calmag might help? Lol
Mate they are crazy hard. Had a little guy battle -8c and all the nights are near freezing. Slow as fuck to grow but looks healthy!

I saw in your pot what looks like a weed I have in my garden. It’s a member of the pea family and it fixes nitrogen. Is that what you have in your pot? It’s the spindly plant which has little pink flowers when it flowers
 

Northwood

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Mate they are crazy hard. Had a little guy battle -8c and all the nights are near freezing. Slow as fuck to grow but looks healthy!

I saw in your pot what looks like a weed I have in my garden. It’s a member of the pea family and it fixes nitrogen. Is that what you have in your pot? It’s the spindly plant which has little pink flowers when it flowers
I think you're referring to the lentils in this grow? They're pretty spindly, also legumes that fix nitrogen, but have tiny white flowers. The seeds I bought as whole brown lentils (the tiny split red ones kind won't germinate). Walmart sells them for human consumption in a $2 bag with enough seeds to last about 100 grow cycles.
 

Maple Melt

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Thanks. It's the "outside" I'm trying to duplicate here so that's a good thing. People grow no-till for a lot of reasons, but for me one of the major ones is living in a part of Canada with miserable winters, and having a little piece of outdoor summer filled with life in my house when there's a blizzard outside. I'm addicted to it now, so being without it would negatively affect my mental health during those dark freezing months. Other reasons is because my wife doesn't like me spending more money on my hobbies than her own, and after reaching 60 years old I find myself getting more lazy than before. I'd rather not have to deal with issues or stress about pH or nutrients.
I love that, bringing the outdoors inside. Another reason I want to work my way up to living soil.

How's your bug situation in there, do you get any pests or do you use biologicals?
 

Northwood

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I love that, bringing the outdoors inside. Another reason I want to work my way up to living soil.

How's your bug situation in there, do you get any pests or do you use biologicals?
I had gnats to the point of being extremely annoying in my first cycle, but I haven't caught any fliers on sticky traps since cycle #3 and don't even bother monitoring anymore. There are predatory mites, nematodes, and lots of "banker" stock to feed them in the form of springtails and many other creatures when pests aren't available for them to eat. I know I have centipedes too, but I've only seen one twice so far which kinda worried me due to their habit of eating worms. Most of the beneficials came naturally from my worm bin that I keep in the basement that I mixed into the soil base in preparation for the first grow cycle.
 

Brandon137

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I had gnats to the point of being extremely annoying in my first cycle, but I haven't caught any fliers on sticky traps since cycle #3 and don't even bother monitoring anymore. There are predatory mites, nematodes, and lots of "banker" stock to feed them in the form of springtails and many other creatures when pests aren't available for them to eat. I know I have centipedes too, but I've only seen one twice so far which kinda worried me due to their habit of eating worms. Most of the beneficials came naturally from my worm bin that I keep in the basement that I mixed into the soil base in preparation for the first grow cycle.
It's funny that you say you had issues with gnats in your first cycle I had issues as well on my first cycle as well as the front half of my second until I introduced predatory mites lol I also had to back off on my watering a bit too
 

Northwood

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It's funny that you say you had issues with gnats in your first cycle I had issues as well on my first cycle as well as the front half of my second until I introduced predatory mites lol I also had to back off on my watering a bit too
I was proactive and introduced the mites and nematodes right before starting the first cycle and still had gnats. It takes at least a full cycle from my experience in a new setup for predators and their alternative food sources to become established population-wise. We're really trying to build a mini ecosystem where things self-balance and that simply takes a bit of time. I'd hate to think that there are people who try no-till and give it up after their first cycle because they had a gnat issue when it's really a transitional and temporary problem.

The first cycle for me is always the most challenging to get through with pests and nutrient supply, but each successive grow just gets easier.
 

Northwood

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Yikes it's a mess! The good news is that the tent is full. I've been really busy with other things lately so I went 3 days without checking or watering them. After I snapped the photo below I gave them 7 gallons of water to drink and not a hint of runoff. I've done literally nothing with this grow except tucking them under to the next available square and a bit of suckering over the last couple weeks. Tonight will officially be their first long night of 12 hours. I also cranked up the lights to about 80% today. Ahead I plan on just continuing to sucker any remaining lower crap, but keep all the leaves until buds start forming and need uncovering.

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Those 5 plants in the backyard are still alive and have started to grow faster now that daytime temps are well over 10 degrees C in the last few days. I'm not sure what to do with them now. I tried giving them away to my neighbours, but both have 4 plants each they started themselves already and they've been taking them out to harden them off each day. I've been giving them a little advice and help, but my neighbours mostly seem to know what they're doing. Aw... Canadian suburbia. What a paradise - well not really. Lol
 

Northwood

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All 5 little volunteer plants that popped up in early April survived. I potted up 2 of the plants in the backyard a few days ago because I needed the container they were growing in for food crops. 3 are still in the garden. They've done most of their growing in just the past couple weeks now that the warm weather has come. No more snow!

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Everything sensitive is outside now: cucumbers, tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, beans, even cucamelon. I'm still not sure what I'll be doing with those cannabis plants though.
 

Hollatchaboy

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Yikes it's a mess! The good news is that the tent is full. I've been really busy with other things lately so I went 3 days without checking or watering them. After I snapped the photo below I gave them 7 gallons of water to drink and not a hint of runoff. I've done literally nothing with this grow except tucking them under to the next available square and a bit of suckering over the last couple weeks. Tonight will officially be their first long night of 12 hours. I also cranked up the lights to about 80% today. Ahead I plan on just continuing to sucker any remaining lower crap, but keep all the leaves until buds start forming and need uncovering.

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Those 5 plants in the backyard are still alive and have started to grow faster now that daytime temps are well over 10 degrees C in the last few days. I'm not sure what to do with them now. I tried giving them away to my neighbours, but both have 4 plants each they started themselves already and they've been taking them out to harden them off each day. I've been giving them a little advice and help, but my neighbours mostly seem to know what they're doing. Aw... Canadian suburbia. What a paradise - well not really. Lol
Looks great man!
 

Northwood

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Looks great man!
I didn't post an update on my indoor plants today because they've stretched so much it's embarrassing. These grew in veg very much like the Pink Lemonade did, so I really didn't expect much stretch at all. Well I was wrong. They've grown way over a foot just in the last week and I haven't had the time to keep up with them. I'll post another update once they get to the cute fluffy early flower stage. One has started to develop some tufts of flowers on the tops, but it's still in transition for the most part. I hope they get to flowering soon, because I only have another 3 feet of useable vertical space in my tent!

Growing new strains from seed is always an adventure.
 

Northwood

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So on average, 3 of them stretched at least 150% so far from the time I flipped. The back left plant just doubled in size and height, and you can't see it from the front doors of the tent. Just that one side door. Lol

Yeah this is bad, but my excuse is that I've been busy with other things now that the weather has warmed up. Plus this is going to make a good quantity of quality bubble hash I think in the end. So I'm not going to complain, even if those poor plants do. I did a big defoliation today, likely over 50% of fan leaves and the plants looked a little shocked. They'll recover in a few days I think?
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Two out of four quantum boards I raised to their maximum height today, about 6.5 feet off the floor. I can't raise them much more. But I'm hitting everything full-blast. Surprisingly, they were not complaining ... at least before getting all their fan leaves plucked off.

So here was the plants before defoliation a couple days ago:
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Sorry about the shitty cell phone pics, but I'm lazy sometimes. Anyway, the bottom of the pot is now covered in a mulch of leaves. It should be good nutrients for the Pineapple Express coming up next.

Anyway, I harvested a bunch of lentil seeds for real! LOL Here they are:
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Yeah I know it's only about 5 cents worth of seeds that you can buy at Walmart. But these were grown organically! LOL Plus they're more than enough to combine with my next cover crop mix. I may as well give these seeds a chance at life, and who knows... even reproduction again. :)
 

loco41

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I had gnats to the point of being extremely annoying in my first cycle, but I haven't caught any fliers on sticky traps since cycle #3 and don't even bother monitoring anymore. There are predatory mites, nematodes, and lots of "banker" stock to feed them in the form of springtails and many other creatures when pests aren't available for them to eat. I know I have centipedes too, but I've only seen one twice so far which kinda worried me due to their habit of eating worms. Most of the beneficials came naturally from my worm bin that I keep in the basement that I mixed into the soil base in preparation for the first grow cycle.
I'm really hating centipedes right now. I flipped over an avocado skin in one of my worms bins and saw 2 centipedes on there. While holding it up for a couple seconds, I watched them devour like 20 springtails, just gobbled em up instantly. I've noticed my worm population down a bit, still healthy enough, but I may have to think twice about using my outdoor compost as the bedding moving forward. Maybe just screening it and being a little more proactive when bringing it inside is the ticket though.

I'll have to read up some more on those shots, cause they are fast and hard to grab when I see them. So far I've killed 4 between the three bins, but who knows if I got them all. Those little shits are fast though, good luck catching yours.
 

Northwood

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I'm really hating centipedes right now. I flipped over an avocado skin in one of my worms bins and saw 2 centipedes on there. While holding it up for a couple seconds, I watched them devour like 20 springtails, just gobbled em up instantly. I've noticed my worm population down a bit, still healthy enough, but I may have to think twice about using my outdoor compost as the bedding moving forward. Maybe just screening it and being a little more proactive when bringing it inside is the ticket though.

I'll have to read up some more on those shots, cause they are fast and hard to grab when I see them. So far I've killed 4 between the three bins, but who knows if I got them all. Those little shits are fast though, good luck catching yours.
I'm not worrying about it anymore. I haven't seen one during the current cycle, so maybe it died of old age? (Wishful thinking! Lol)

This spring while transplanting stuff in the garden I saw what I'm sure are the same kind outside, so I'm guessing it's a very common species for this area (Ontario). I'm not sure where the centipede(s) originally came from, but it's in there. Maybe every ecosystem needs an apex predator. Just enjoy the fact that it isn't lions or tigers or a wolf pack in your grow. ;)
 

Flowtrail55

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Finally finished reading this thread. Spaced out over 2/3 days.

Definitely following now. Awesome thread and spectacular grows! I'm still in my first grow.( lots of learning!) And I may try this grow style next grow or the grow after. Looks like it produces excellent results!
 

Brandon137

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Lol I thought of you Northwood when I took this picture clearly I've been to busy with the outdoor garden and have some volunteer melons growing 20210624_201214.jpg
Also the buckwheat just won't quit I keep snapping the stems and pacing it down but It just keeps coming back here's my veggie garden bet you can't guess which one I built with covid priced lumber 20210620_112541.jpg20210620_112528.jpg
 
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