one light one plant one pound....

horribleherk

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1. Here's the base mix 5-11-26 with all the needed micros (also available in smaller quantities);
https://hydro-gardens.com/product/hydroponic-special-formula-25lbs-bag-5-11-26/

2. They also sell calcium nitrate on the site.

3. They can sell you mag sulfate or you can get it yourself in the pharmacy section; 'epsom salt'

4. In peak bloom, add a dash of MKP, aka monopotassium phosphate; 0-52-32. A little goes a LONG way!

DONE! If you're running in soilless mix, coco, Tupur, etc, you can add humic/fulvic acid and microbial inoculants but they won't do you any good in deep water culture.

Your research is now complete. My consulting bill is in the mail.
so 1/2 oz of the base nutrient to 5 gal.water should be a good place to start?
 

ttystikk

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so 1/2 oz of the base nutrient to 5 gal.water should be a good place to start?
You need to follow a recipe based on ratios. The web page I linked above suggests 5 parts mix to 2 parts calcium nitrate to one part epsom salt by weight.

That seems a bit off to me for our favorite cultivar, I'm running 2:2:1.

Dissolve the calcium nitrate in a different container than the rest, then mix once everything is in solution. I suggest making a stock solution of known strength with the mix.

If you keep the ratios correct, it doesn't matter exactly how much nutrient per gallon, you just dilute the mix to the desired EC. It's easier than it sounds.

For example, I ran my base mix stock solution at 200g/gallon. To get 100g, I just stirred it up and decanted a half gallon into a bucket. I added 50g of epsom salt, added a gallon or two of water, gave it a stir and let it sit to dissolve. In a separate bucket, I dissolved 100g of calcium nitrate with a gallon or two of water. Now I have my 2:2:1 ratio.

I'd start filling a 32 gallon trash can with water and dump the two buckets into it. My EC meter would start out reading high and would drop as I added more water. When I reached the nutrient strength I wanted, in my case around EC 2.3, I shut off the water and my nutrient solution was ready to use. It would end up being about 28 gallons. If I wanted a lower EC, that would of course mean more water. My pH always came out to 5.9-6.0 and thus didn't need adjusting. That's due to the ratio of ammonium to nitrate in the mix, something the manufacturer does for convenience.
 

whytewidow

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I agree does pretty good on tomatoes & squash as well

Lol, yes it does. The picture on my avatar was grow with miracle grow. As long as you get a really good flush, that's all that matters really. But if you ask around here almost everyone will tell you NO DON'T USE MIRACLE GROW!!!! And I tell us what else it will grow. Is a weeping willow tree. My son, daughter, and I planted a weeping willow in our front yard in the beginning of April this year. It was 2 1/2 foot tall. And yesterday I measured it. It's 13' 5" tall. Which I mean they grow fast anyway. But I used miracle grow.on it. Plus whatever nute solution I have left after feeding I dump on it too.
 

horribleherk

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You need to follow a recipe based on ratios. The web page I linked above suggests 5 parts mix to 2 parts calcium nitrate to one part epsom salt by weight.

That seems a bit off to me for our favorite cultivar, I'm running 2:2:1.

Dissolve the calcium nitrate in a different container than the rest, then mix once everything is in solution. I suggest making a stock solution of known strength with the mix.

If you keep the ratios correct, it doesn't matter exactly how much nutrient per gallon, you just dilute the mix to the desired EC. It's easier than it sounds.

For example, I ran my base mix stock solution at 200g/gallon. To get 100g, I just stirred it up and decanted a half gallon into a bucket. I added 50g of epsom salt, added a gallon or two of water, gave it a stir and let it sit to dissolve. In a separate bucket, I dissolved 100g of calcium nitrate with a gallon or two of water. Now I have my 2:2:1 ratio.

I'd start filling a 32 gallon trash can with water and dump the two buckets into it. My EC meter would start out reading high and would drop as I added more water. When I reached the nutrient strength I wanted, in my case around EC 2.3, I shut off the water and my nutrient solution was ready to use. It would end up being about 28 gallons. If I wanted a lower EC, that would of course mean more water. My pH always came out to 5.9-6.0 and thus didn't need adjusting. That's due to the ratio of ammonium to nitrate in the mix, something the manufacturer does for convenience.
I studied their site some last night it's mind boggling they've definitely got the credentials
 

horribleherk

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Man I hit them with this stuff called Sea Crop 16. And they exploded. I think next run I'm only going to use it, and cali-magic. You seen what they looked like after I hit them with neem oil. This is 3 days after I hit em with the sea crop...

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they definitely look good & have a nice rich color to them have you fired up the new light yet? I'm really excited to see you get up & running I get countless hours of enjoyment out of my grows
 

whytewidow

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they definitely look good & have a nice rich color to them have you fired up the new light yet? I'm really excited to see you get up & running I get countless hours of enjoyment out of my grows
No not yet. I've barely had time to feed and water them. I worked Monday through Friday and worked over every day. Then worked Saturday for over time. And we worked 17 1/4 hours. So we got overtime on over time. Got 8 hours of time and a half. Then after 8 hours it was double time and a 1/4. I left Saturday morning at 5am. For work. And I got home last night at 127am Sunday morning. I just got up. LoL. Plus i got 2 kiddos. 5 year old boy and 2 years little girl. They take up most of my free time. When I'm not working. But I did manage to top my clone today. For 8 tops in the mainline.

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chemphlegm

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I've never had an issue yielding a pound of bud from any strain under one light with a sufficient veg following directions on any bottle of nutes lucky me
 

horribleherk

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No not yet. I've barely had time to feed and water them. I worked Monday through Friday and worked over every day. Then worked Saturday for over time. And we worked 17 1/4 hours. So we got overtime on over time. Got 8 hours of time and a half. Then after 8 hours it was double time and a 1/4. I left Saturday morning at 5am. For work. And I got home last night at 127am Sunday morning. I just got up. LoL. Plus i got 2 kiddos. 5 year old boy and 2 years little girl. They take up most of my free time. When I'm not working. But I did manage to top my clone today. For 8 tops in the mainline.

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when I hauled concrete we used to run like that & nights too was glad to see rain once in awhile
 

whytewidow

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All the construction trades kinda go hand in hand hauling ready mix concrete is a helluva lot easier than placing it lol... some of the labor end of electrical can be labor intensive like cleaning out trenching for duct banks & that sort of stuff
Yeah I'm past all that nonsense though. Duct banks n stuff. I've been doing it for 16 years. I'm a terminator. I just set on a bucket in front of bff drives and stuff. And terminate wires.
 

horribleherk

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The blurple tent got switched to royal gold tupur today & these 2 plants are next before I loose them nutrient temp @ 91.f is just cooking my roots they just aren't happy tonight or early in the morning I'll make the switch I'll go back to dwc after I get my room done & can control my environment somewhat better the smart pots are 3 gal I wanted 4 gal but they didn't have any , tupur is reasonable @ $11.00 a bag IMG_2310.JPGIMG_2311.JPG IMG_2312.JPG
 
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