Omega Garden Conspiracy?!

Okay. I have been to every Marijuana Forum on the Internet and I have not found a damn thing!!! I am so ready to get my grow op started but as soon as I am ready to order my supplies I see something that points me away from ordering. It is driving me crazy!!! I just want to see a single COMPLETE grow journal with an Omega Garden or Volksgarden that goes to harvest and yield amounts. I'm sorry to ask but I apparently have looked in all the wrong places. I have researched Omega Gardens for some time and I can see how it would work but I just want to see someone else's COMPLETE journey in the use of an Omega Garden growing one of earth's finest herbs. So please!!! Someone end my insane search and point me in the right direction. Many many many thanks in advanced for any journal links or personal experiences. Thanks again.

There aren't any journals but there is Omegagardener on here you can try to pm him or look up his past posts. Works for him.

Those are sure a lot of money though, and that amount of money can grow a whole lot more weed put to better use if you have space for more traditional methods.

Omegagardener has posted a picture here and there with buds in full flower. Looks nice, but the plants are very limited in size with that system so overall yield is limited in that way.

I was thinking about getting an Omega Garden but couldn't find anything either. I ended up going with a Cultivator Pro as it does a lot more and is more of a prooven technology...

omegagardener has some pics around here somewhere like OM was saying. I can't find them but they show like 3 omegas. Flowered out plants too. I know it is hard cuz a lot of the sites that do show the omega are non mj sites so they are saying 'you can harvest 10pounds every 25 days!!' yeah, of lettecue!

Good luck to you and if you get one of those you better make a journal.

Have you seen the carosel for the omegas where like 8 or 10 of em go around in a loop like 2 or 3 stories high, that would be nice. Imagine the electric bill!!! eacpe:

I wouldn't say omega gardener's information is particularly objective. He has a clear agenda and likes to bash anything not distributed by omega garden. If you question any of his un backed information he goes ape shit and personally attacks you. Plus, the guy is supposed to be experienced and have done multiple grows using this thing but only has 1 or 2 low res pics? Something is rotten in Denmark...

Anyway, this: Roto Grow - Bubbleman's Hideout
Is the best thing I have seen on the net showing pics of a successfull rotary garden grow. It's not an omega garden though, it's a knock off called roto grow.

The roto grow has 240 sites (3x that of the volksgarden), comes with built in 600w ballasts, water pump n timer, light timers, fan, 2xsunmaster hps 600w bulbs and costs as much as 2 volksgardens even though it grows as much as 3 volksgardens.

The factors preventing me from buying the volksgarden are: limited plant height restrictions (10-12" max) which limits the strains you should grow dramatically and ups the growing expertise required. Also, It sucks that for $2,000 Volksgardens don't even come with a reservoir, pump, ballast, or light and they only accommodate 60 plants comfortably. Last but not least, the roto grow, it seems like a better setup and value when it's all said and done.

oh please. Stop acting like omegafarmer is running for public office, and has some secret agenda. I've seen these "attacks" you speak of, it's called self defense. Everyone talks shit just cause he doesn't have a grow journal using the omega.

And btw, the roto grow retails at just under 6000. Sounds like a great alternative, plus it would be harder to manage with that many plants In one system.

oh please. Stop acting like omegafarmer is running for public office, and has some secret agenda. I've seen these "attacks" you speak of, it's called self defense. Everyone talks shit just cause he doesn't have a grow journal using the omega.

And btw, the roto grow retails at just under 6000. Sounds like a great alternative, plus it would be harder to manage with that many plants In one system.

have you ever seen the cage. seems pretty good to me. The cannabis cage

Blink said:

oh please. Stop acting like omegafarmer is running for public office, and has some secret agenda. I've seen these "attacks" you speak of, it's called self defense. Everyone talks shit just cause he doesn't have a grow journal using the omega.

And btw, the roto grow retails at just under 6000. Sounds like a great alternative, plus it would be harder to manage with that many plants In one system.

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Yeah well, judging from my most recent interaction with omega farmer/gardener, I'd say he probably earned all that animosity. The guy is a jerk. I defended him in a couple threads suggesting people "relax" with the "spammer" posts. Then, a day later he flames me for telling him what I don't like about the Volksgarden and suggesting he promote what he likes about the Volksgarden without putting other systems down. The guy gets attacked, because he goes on attack, A LOT.

Getting back on topic, You can get the roto gro 240 site for $5000 and the 312 site system for $5500 and both include FREE SHIPPING (4hydroponicsdotcom). AND roto grows come with EVERYTHING (lights/ballasts/timers/rez & pump). You can probably get close to 200 plants comfortably in the smaller system and 250 in the larger system. That is the capacity of 3-4 Volksgardens. 4 volksgardens would cost over 10 grand once you got lights and stuff. So, Roto Grow is about half the price of Volksgarden. Roto grow seems like the way to go for me.

omegafarmer said:

the volksgarden and the rotogro are the same diameter so there is no 10 inch height restriction you lying POS....oh ya i almost forgot you lieing POS

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See that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Why can't you say, "you're mistaken" and give me what you believe to be the facts? Why do you assume I'm intentionally "lying" to slander your beloved omega? You're stressed out with some serious anti social tendencies. (I'm guessing you're either an only child or Eastern European?) lol...

Anyway, on the Volksgarden, it is 17" or 18" from the grow tray to the bulb cover. If you call Omega they will tell you that your plants should be no more than 10-12" giving at least 6" space between the top of your plant to the light.(THAT IS WHERE I GOT MY INFORMATION, DIRECT FROM THE REAL SOURCE).

It's highly weird that this DISCUSSION has to have the tone of an argument. And that you're calling me a lying POS. Aren't we supposed to be laid back (ADULT) stoners?

i call you what you are cause you intentionally mislead people by what you write. you are a lying POS. and it looks like a racist and likely a diddler as well

omegafarmer said:

i call you what you are cause you intentionally mislead people by what you write. you are a lying POS. and it looks like a racist and likely a diddler as well

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I intentionally mislead people? How? By informing people that if they buy a Volksgarden they should expect to have 10-12" plants? I challenge anyone here to call omega garden 877-962-3278 and ask them how large they recommend you let your plants grow. The lady I spoke with on Friday told me 10" is best, 12" MAX.

What else have I "lied" about?

Billj500 said:

I intentionally mislead people? How? By informing people that if they buy a Volksgarden they should expect to have 10-12" plants? I challenge anyone here to call omega garden 877-962-3278 and ask them how large they recommend you let your plants grow. The lady I spoke with on Friday told me 10" is best, 12" MAX.

What else have I "lied" about?

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she is just trying to help your pathetic stupid ass. cause if you grow it into the cool tube then you not going to get the kind of yields you can get if you find the sweet spot.

obviously you can grow in all the way and fuck up every time if you are so stupid, but you say it like there is only 12 inches of space to grow your plants in.

i just measured my volks and its got 19 inches from the top of the media to the outside of the glass tube which is 1 inch more then the rotogro i believe

yours is the kind of attitude that keeps people from posting their grow shows

omegafarmer said:

she is just trying to help your pathetic stupid ass. cause if you grow it into the cool tube then you not going to get the kind of yields you can get if you find the sweet spot.

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Hmmm, well then why do you claim to only grow your plants to a max of 12" too? Check out post #16: https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/101973-popular-science-gives-omega-garden-2.html

omegafarmer said:

i just measured my volks and its got 19 inches from the top of the media to the outside of the glass tube which is 1 inch more then the rotogro i believe

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Really? How did you do that if you don't own a volksgarden? According to yourself, you have one of the older models but would PREFER a volksgarden. Check out post #31:
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/26630-omega-garden-4.html

omegafarmer said:

yours is the kind of attitude that keeps people from posting their grow shows

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Oh, so it's my attitude that keeps you from posting the awesome pics of your omega grow? LOL interesting argument (If you're 12), well I've been a member for about a week, and you've been here for about a year and a half, so you had plenty of time before I came along to post pics.

Based on the findings I have shown publicly here, I submit that you are the one who is a liar and a fraud. Maybe that's why you throw the term around so loosely!

you just dont have a good understanding of the problem with expanding into a diminishing diameter and no amount of educating is likely to get you there

look at the date that was posted asshole and you will see that it was a year ago - good luck next time POS

"your kind of attitude" believe me you POS attitude is not unique

omegafarmer said:

you just dont have a good understanding of the problem with expanding into a diminishing diameter and no amount of educating is likely to get you there

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I just think you're uptight and don't know how to use your words...

omegafarmer said:

look at the date that was posted asshole and you will see that it was a year ago

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What does the date of the post have to do with anything? You still said it. So, what, now you grow your plants higher? Again, use your words instead of getting all antsy in your pantsy and attacking.

Anyways, you and I are going to have to get a room if we go any further. We have totally derailed the OP's thread. I'm graciously bowing out of this "debate."

Billj500 said:

I just think you're uptight and don't know how to use your words...

What does the date of the post have to do with anything? You still said it. So, what, now you grow your plants higher? Again, use your words instead of getting all antsy in your pantsy and attacking.

Anyways, you and I are going to have to get a room if we go any further. We have totally derailed the OP's thread. I'm graciously bowing out of this "debate."

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the date has to do with the fact that i now have volksgardens, not about how tall i grow my plants.

get a room? you wish, how about 30 seconds in a cage match - you have no idea what grace means

Omega: I have read this entire thread among many others regarding you, and these grow cylinders. First I have to say, it seems as though you understand the design engineering and construction of these units, second it seems you know a little bit about using them to grow, and thirdly it seems that you exaggerate, lie, and abuse people verbally to prove your "points". You get very hot headed whenever someone posts any negativity about these units (a couple certain models in particular) which leads me to believe you have some connection to these models, or points out when you contradict yourself (which you don't even bother to edit out) which you have done many times and in many places (a few of them already pointed out above). Another contradiction that I noticed besides growing 12'' is there was a post saying you Couldn't post pics because it was the summer time and you don't use it during the summer (which doesn't make a whole lote of sense), and then on a different post you are describing how you have had the same unit going constantly for 2 years strait.

You are becoming very unpopular around the forums (just some info you may be interested in) not that I feel either way for you, because personally I think these units are a waste of time and money, indeed I KNOW they are, and don't know you so your opinion doesn't matter.

Bill: You seem to have a very well rounded attitude, and a good attention to detail, I commend you.

Yeah, I know Omega: "I am a POS too, and my attitude sucks too, and I don't know what I am talking about, and I can shove it, and you are the supreme OmegaGardener, and I shouldn't be stepping on your toes." So there is your post.... your welcome for me making it for you... honestly, I don't care what you write about me on here... as your opinion is worth less to everyone on here everyday so they don't care either... and anything more than this post is probably a waste of my time.... oh yeah I know exactly what the problem with expanding into a diminishing diameter is, as my dad has been a botanist for 30 years, and has used a unit like these before many times (lol, all the way back into the 70's).....

there are people about to spend 100s of millions of dollars on this type of tech to grow food in vertical farms across the globe so maybe you better speak up so they can hear you cause its such a waste. why are most dope growers so fucking dense?

your father used one in the 70s eh? well unless he worked at epcot with that 50 rpm unit then its not very likely

when you say something then a year passes by and you say something else then just maybe things have changed in that time or is that too far above your pay scale to comprehend. i dont care what you think at all of anything but when some POS is going to call me out or say the math is wrong then i will speak out. so uh...thanks for your concern and fuck you very much

theloadeddragon said:

Bill: You seem to have a very well rounded attitude, and a good attention to detail, I commend you.

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Thanks!

theloadeddragon said:

because personally I think these units are a waste of time and money, indeed I KNOW they are, and don't know you so your opinion doesn't matter.

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Can you please elaborate and give specifics? I am seriously considering dropping 5Gs on a Roto Grow or GI Grow in the next week rather than having 3-4 traditional ebb and flow tables under 4 or 5,000 watts for my first ever hydro grow. I would really apprecciatte some honest feedback from somebody who actually has experience and credibility growing WEED in a rotary garden. Thanks.