Ok, So I Want To Open A Dispensary, But How?

theloadeddragon

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yeah, this is easily the most touchy subject of all medical marijuana, its a taboo in the gray area of law and practical execution. That is the problem with medical marijuana (though I am a patient myself), the medical marijuana laws passed in the state, clashing with federal law, also making difficult to interpret which other laws you have to still correspond with, meshed with county and city laws/ordinances...... The whole damn thing is a big mess that is sucking tons of money, time, and putting in prison too many seriously ill. But wait.....
Take money out of the equation! Take the "Donations" out of the equation. A place that delivers for free, nah don't think so... but a shop that gives free meds to Qualifying patients, think about the image representation there, a completely Non Profit Organization that relies on Grants, not donations, to operate. These Grants having in place certain stipulations that make the whole operation agreeable to the areas public and private residents. The grants being self funded by public Fund Raising events, where portions of proceeds go to other local non profit organizations (in other words, equal portions of proceeds would be given to the qualifying Non prof organizations), that way there is even more good image, no harm done, people need their cars washed, to go to carnivals etc. etc. just don't make the pot leaf the big image, don't focus soooo much on how much the cannabis movement needs its communities, rather focus on what the cannabis community IS doing for its general community, respect is earned, ears perk, people listen, people act more.
Basically all of your financial documents show that NO MONEY gets spent to acquire your medical marijuana, it is all given to the organization, show that all of the grant money goes to cover the expenses of operating, and even falls short in places. Strive to meet goals set in the provisions of the grants! Keep it all perpetual, open many locations, advertise communities thriving! Word of mouth, appreciation.... mmmm another toke on the bong...... ok,... oh yeah, and a whole lot more (just kinda don't wanna sit here writing all day).... touchy subject indeed....
 

ta2drvn

Well-Known Member
^^^^
All nobel idea's...


But it realistically won't happen till there is legalization and a general acceptance of MMJ. Why is this something that always comes up? The people that open and operate these facilities currently take big risks to personal and family freedom not to mention the financial risks involved, in order to provide patients medicine. Everyone that has a recommendation and use these facilities IS SICK right? So discounts due to illness doesn't make sense. I think it is reasonable for these people to make money at it, nothing wrong with this and it is none of my business how much or how little they make at it, just like any other business. If I don't like the prices I don't have to buy it, I have options:

1) Grow myself and only pay cost of growing
2) Drive to another location that is less expensive
3) Go back to the black market and take the risks there
4) Find traditional medicine and use insurance card to get pills for $10-15 bottle


I'm just glad there are a few around me and they stick around a while longer, the longer they are open the better it is for the community. Those that don't abide by the law and sell out the back door and do things that are not legal, do so at the risk and peril of all the patients in the local area and I have little sympathy when they get raided over these issues. Still, it is wrong for these guys to get raided, but when you are walking a tight rope why make it thinner than it needs to be.
 

theloadeddragon

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I agree completely, accept that there is already a couple dispensaries that are doing things along the same lines as what I described above. They compare illness to income, to source of income, and ability to grow.... and they are both non profits. They get support from their local law enforcement, as the local Sheriff is a patient even!

the 1-4 you wrote is what Most patients do, I would say only about 1/5 of patients actually go through the clubs, and about 3/4 grow and go black market when they run out. Probably only like 1-3% go back to other kinds of medications...
Setting up legislation is easy, as long as you know how to lobby. I am still kind of figuring it out, but sooner or later I plan to put a lot of new pieces of legislator under our citizens noses.
 

FarmerDave

Active Member
What up everyone, and thanks for everyone's input, on a subject that i feel deff. needs more Information out there!! Please keep it up, you guys are really putting some good stuff out there!! Great ideas left and right, and some really usefull information.... :bigjoint:

Second to that, i also want to say big thanks to the peeps at Attitude Seed Bank! I ordered some Barney Farm 8 Ball Kush, and some Trainwreck by Greenhouse, and i just got them today. There germing right now, and you guessed it, i'm starting a journal to show everyone my expierence, so be on the look out! :peace:


Bong Tokes for Everyone!

FarmerDave
 

theloadeddragon

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man, I am so f'en skeptical about ordering seeds! I get mine out of ganja's from the clubs! That is also a good way to get a guarantee of the type and quality. Plus they are expensive, and the ones that come outta the buds are free... just used up all of my seedstock (18 seeds, 5 seedlings left, :( )
 

FarmerDave

Active Member
i know i was sketching too, but its all good and really discreet. I usually grow with clones from the local clubs in SoCal but, this time i decided to start from scratch. Also, i am just going to get some good moms started hopefully, and working them into my hydro setup
 

FarmerDave

Active Member
California Medical Marijuana Dispensary Owner Charlie Lynch Found Guilty in Grotesque Miscarriage of Justice

Nick Gillespie | August 5, 2008, 7:28pm
Charles Lynch, the owner of a medical marijuana dispensary in Morro Bay, California that was fully compliant with state laws, has been found guilty in federal court of pushing drugs. The grim details, courtesy of The Los Angeles Times:
The owner of a Morro Bay marijuana dispensary was found guilty today in federal court of five counts of distributing drugs.

Charles Lynch, the owner of the dispensary, faces a minimum of five years in prison.

His closely watched trial involved conflicting marijuana laws and went to a federal court jury Monday. Jurors were asked to determine if Lynch was guilty of violating federal drug laws.

During a week-and-a-half-long trial in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, federal prosecutors sought to depict Lynch as a common drug dealer who sold pot to teenagers and carried a backpack stuffed with cash.

Lynch was charged with distributing marijuana, conspiring to distribute marijuana and providing marijuana to people under the age of 21.
Whole news story here.
Lynch is one of the countless casualties of an idiotic and tragically long-running war on drugs. His shop scrupulously followed Golden State laws and when he opened his shop in Morro Bay, local officials attended the ribbon-cutting ceremony. And that kid he provided medical marijuana to? A high school athlete who had lost a leg to cancer and had a prescription from a Stanford-trained doctor (and in any case, Lynch only dealt with the boy's parents). Yes, a common drug dealer.
There's only one good possibility to come out of this verdict: That its manifest injustice and stupidity and inhumanity (to Lynch and his customers) will help spark a long overdue reaction to the drug war and its punishing toll on individuals and basic Constitutional rights.
reason has been covering this story closely. Its import goes beyond drug policy to questions about federalism and whether or not states can truly be laboratories of experimentation and it compounds the awful logic of the Supreme Court's dreadful ruling in Gonzales v. Raich (2005) which invoked the commerce clause in deciding that federal laws overrode state laws when it came to medical marijuana.
Click here for coverage, including video updates featuring key players in the case, of the trial of Lynch.
Click below to watch the Drew Carey Project documentary "Raiding California" that tells the truth about Charlie Lynch.




Check it out here...

Hit & Run > California Medical Marijuana Dispensary Owner Charlie Lynch Found Guilty in Grotesque Miscarriage of Justice - Reason Magazine
 

FarmerDave

Active Member
What Garbage, i'll let you make up your mind on the above story.

But, to me it seems pretty interesting that 12 jurrors found this person guilty. All it would have taking to be a hung jury is one vote. I mean, not even one of the jurrors considered the harmlessness in smoking?

F that....

FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!!

I will be deffinently dedicating myself to finding answers to the legal ins and outs of the dispensary bizz... But, what the hell is selling to minors under the age of 21!!! what a joke!!!

Just curious, a little off topic, but how old where you when you first smoked weed?

I was 14.


 

theloadeddragon

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8 years old, and at a great grandparents funeral no less... really sad to see that, but I can tell you why it came as guilty, imagine the leverage coming from a not guilty finding. Wish I was a private investigator, I would see how the jurors got threatened/bribed into voting like that. Seriously, members of MASSES asked people to take surveys, and 96% of people said they would pass the not guilty verdict on anyone for marijuana, whether they thought they were guilty or not, just because they know its harmless....
 

TetraHyC

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I live close to Morro Bay, this guy was selling to people w/o a scrip, what do you think happens when you sell pot to an undercover DEA w/o a prescription,its on our local news often.
 

MrFishy

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Well obviously the man was not tried by a jury of his peers.
In a sparsely populated state, like Montana, dispensaries only lead to monopoly. There's one, in the middle of the state. The owner was gonna help me get going until he saw that I wasn't interested in buying his clones and already have my own strain.
 

FarmerDave

Active Member
I live close to Morro Bay, this guy was selling to people w/o a scrip, what do you think happens when you sell pot to an undercover DEA w/o a prescription,its on our local news often.

Interesting... I'd love to read up on it and find out the facts of the case. Just curious, do you know for a fact he was selling to peeps w/o a perscription, or did the local news state that. Just wondering.....
 

ta2drvn

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It happens and it's not always the owner that is doing it or even knows about it. Until the other day, I was always kind of figuring duh, when ever I saw something like this. You know if you start selling to non-valid/verified people that come in, you know something bad is bound to happen; not that it is right either way, but if you are gonna own and run a dispensary you better toe the line when doing it, it's risky enough! I mean every time I have gone to a dispensary they are always so anal about you having your original recommendation every time it's not even funny.

But the other day I go to East LA and realize that I only have my mini-wallet recommendation on me, now it has the same exact verbiage, has all the same info on it, has the embossed Dr seal on it and wet/live signatures on it; the ONLY difference is, that it is the size of two business card that is folded over and on the back of it, it says Passport on it and the Dr's business info on it but I always have a hard time with it being accepted for some reason and this E.LA place gives me a hard time and I decided to go to Hollyweed and check out this place that had some special on OZ's. I get there and without even being asked about my recommendation the bud tender is making recommendations and asking what I was interested in... Now, I know I have a valid recommendation and instead of dealing with what I had to deal with earlier I just rolled with it.

Now I think it should not have happened (kinda like the first half of this Redskins game I am watching... LOL) but ONLY because it is IMO similar to Liquor stores checking ID, it's not that hard to comply with and if that is all that is needed to keep it 'legal' then let's not spoil a good thing and give the Anti's something else to try and make it look EVIL. As far as making people get a Dr recommendation for a substance that has NEVER killed anyone and can be grown like any normal house plant or herb, when everyday we can go to a convenience store and on the recommendation of a bum off the street, get a good bottle of ripple or good tasting hand-full of change a pack tobacco products and only need to be born before a date to purchase these obvious poisons that have been proven to KILL and/or cause cancer... All I have to say is LOL
 

herbologist

New Member
We dispensary owners have so much more to pay attention to.I had a manager selling weed to the streets last week.He decided he could make more there.Not out of our shop but referring people to his house.We let him go.
 
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