Oh my jesus...(worst seed experience ever)

Some of you here might remember me from a few of my grows but im officially having the worst luck ever...EVER (my first time went better than this)...

i planted 50 (yes 5-0) seeds. You will NOT believe how many sprouted....

guess....no really guess...take ur time...i'll wait...

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15! thats it!

i can NOT believe it. i planned an sog grow this time around starting from seed (instead of clone as you traditionally would). i have 2 600's so i figure if some sprout too soon and some sprout late i can put all the taller 1's under 1 hid and the shorter ones under the other (makes sense).

well now i cant do any of that.

im no n00b on growing anymore folks. in all my previous grows my lifetime germination record (before now) was 28/30 (i think thats 93% success rate)... today i found i got 15 out of 50 (30 some odd percent).

i have NO idea what went wrong. i planted them straight in the soil without any paper towel method, etc. just from breeder pack to soil. plant about 1 inch deep...lightly brush soil over the hole. keep soil moist/damp. room humidity was averaging 70%.

keep in mind ive have 28/30 success overall using this basic method (old school way). so im not sure what happened.

the seeds were a variety. a HUGE variety.

i had:
seedsman white widow (13 of these beans)
ceres orange bud (1)
kannabia white domina (1)
kannabia big band (1)
dinafem road runner auto (1)
female c99 hyrbrid (1 of these. it was female's newest c99 hybrid just came out)
female bubblegummer (1)
ch9 jack 33 (1)
big bang (10 of these)
master kush (10 of these)
mystery strain ive been working with from bagseed over a year 1/2 ago (10)


out of all of those strains only the ones above listed in bold sprouted.

i got 8-9 white widows... the bubblegummer the jack 33 and 3-4 of the mystery strain.

the mystery strain beans are my oldest ones (had them for year and a half and i obviously harvested those seeds personally and it was my first time making seeds back then) and they came up so i dont think i store them incorrectly since they popped and all my beans in the past have popped except for 2.

so wtf is going on? i dont see how i made an error and i cant blame the company i get my beans from as my own strains didnt come up (the master kush, big bang and mystery beans are all beans i grew out from breeders and bred the generation i planted all by myself)...but it wouldnt make sense to say i pulled them too early or anything because even my new beans direct from breeders didnt sprout...and from various breeders too.

so idk.

im hating life right now and gotta figure out if i should move these plants to 3 or 5 gallon pots...im thinking go with 3's as i will be able to keep all my plants (i plan on using 2 or so mystery plants for seed production via the silver method)...

thanks for hearing out my problem.

well it could be that you did not store the seeds properly..........fuck it just grow bigger plants now 15 biggg assss plantssss

Dude that sucks to lose all those..but it seems it failed on a full spectrum...so that says it was like 2000 said "bad storage" or it there was something wrong with everything you used or everything wrong with something you used.

idk i figure they were stored properly as ive stored every seed i ever got in the same place and they're treated the same way. kept in a cool (not cold) dark dry place just as ive always been told

i dug through my soil today looking for any possible sprouts that hadnt made it to the top yet and all i discovered was 1 of them (i didnt harm it...its alive and ok) and i found two that did sprout but died before the got to the surface.

idk.

i have them on a 24hr light cycle now...im going to use cfls right now but supplement with 1 hid (for all 15) 12hrs out of the day. normally id go balls out and use both lights 18-24 hrs a day but i dont see the point with the weather being warm and only 1 gal pot babies.

i think i'll transfer them in 3 gal pots and i want to use both 600w hid lights for flowering.

oh and i was careful about watering them. i used a spray bottle (so im careful no to disturb the soil with water from a pouring gallon) as always. like i said im really shoced. couldnt believe it

you germed in the soil?

next time put em in a wet paper towel..and then in a Ziploc baggie till a tap root sprouts

i gave a buddy 20 beans and he only had 3 seedlings outa those cuz he put em in the soil. ... its possible but i go for the for sure way

Dizzle Frost said:

you germed in the soil?

next time put em in a wet paper towel..and then in a Ziploc baggie till a tap root sprouts

i gave a buddy 20 beans and he only had 3 seedlings outa those cuz he put em in the soil. ... its possible but i go for the for sure way

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yeah i know. i was always paranoid about being too rough so i stuck with the soil method as it was working. idk what to blame it on. im sure i would have had at least a few more sprouts with the paper towel method but considering i only got 15 i wonder how many extra i would have had as i couldnt find any sprout in the soil except two of em.

what i do is i get the seed and eat it then i collect my poop for two days after that.......... you put the little turds in the soil (dont know about you guys but i poop like a hamster) then just watch the shitty majic happen

Clone them all, keep the female clones after their parent plants show sex. Keep the best female you grow and keep it as a mother then you can clone/grow/harvest forever and never need to buy another seed.

i had the worst luck with strait to soil germing.traded it in for peat moss balls and got 98%.i also bought my beans from attitude so i new it was my method that was off not the beans.also if some sprouted but died prob to much heat or not moist enough soil, hard to tell in some soil mixes.the ones that did sprout are gonna be some beasts though for sure.strong genetics to germ when the others wouldnt, keep some moms for sure.take clones from them and dont worry about sprouting seeds any more

also no need to go a whole inch deep 1/8 of an inch will be fine

sm0keyrich510 said:

im no n00b on growing anymore folks. in all my previous grows my lifetime germination record (before now) was 28/30 (i think thats 93% success rate)... today i found i got 15 out of 50 (30 some odd percent).

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yea he's no noob anymore folks..but he was ganna put 50 plants under two 600watters lol

thanks for the ideas. i forgot to mention all 50 of the beans were feminised

so much for all that though...all the beans i planted just one of were freebies i saved up over the last 6mos-a yr.

Cali.Grown>408 said:

yea he's no noob anymore folks..but he was ganna put 50 plants under two 600watters lol

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sorry. 50 plants in 1 gal pots will easily fit under 2 600w hid's. you probably didnt bother to consider that possibility. i could have fit 55-60 to be honest.

who knows what could have happened along the way. There a few weird things that can happen to seed.
They can become inviable because of bacteria. Treating them with hydrogen peroxide or chlorine before planting
is supposed to help that.
An inch deep seems a little deep, but strange cause you say you've had success before... Did you did up the ungerminated seeds to see if they even cracked or sprouted at all?
Sorry about the bad luck mate. Thems the breaks.
How long has it been? Some strains can take up to 30 to germinate, but usually grow really slow if they do.

Beansly said:

who knows what could have happened along the way. There a few weird things that can happen to seed.
They can become inviable because of bacteria. Treating them with hydrogen peroxide or chlorine before planting
is supposed to help that.
An inch deep seems a little deep, but strange cause you say you've had success before... Did you did up the ungerminated seeds to see if they even cracked or sprouted at all?
Sorry about the bad luck mate. Thems the breaks.
How long has it been? Some strains can take up to 30 to germinate, but usually grow really slow if they do.

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i didnt mean literally an inch...i usually just poke a small hole in the center with my pinky...i just say inch.

thanks for the peroxide tip i didnt know that!


yeah i dug up to find the seeds (of course i couldnt find them but i also couldnt find any sprouts either except for two but they were already dead...the one i found that was alive was probably no more than 12-24hrs from the surface of the soil.)


so im counting the 1 that i found just below the surface as one of my 15 (even though its only like barely coming above the soil now).


another funny thing is all my sprouts look healthy except my mystery beans..they came out looking nuteburned but i didnt use a hot mix. i used organic potting soil (black gold), fox farm, loads of perlite and some filler soil.

sm0keyrich510 said:

thanks for the ideas. i forgot to mention all 50 of the beans were feminised

so much for all that though...all the beans i planted just one of were freebies i saved up over the last 6mos-a yr.



sorry. 50 plants in 1 gal pots will easily fit under 2 600w hid's. you probably didnt bother to consider that possibility. i could have fit 55-60 to be honest.

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i'd love to see that grow..do it now..order more seeds lol

Cali.Grown>408 said:

i'd love to see that grow..do it now..order more seeds lol

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ok. you send me more seeds and ill do it but im not gonna stop my grow thats going (the 15 sprouts i have been left with) and order more beans...wait for them to show and germinate them. its not gonna happen and i dont dance to the commands of anonymous people on the internet.

if you dont think it would work then suit yourself. my 1gal pots are very narrow it would have fit...and it would have worked especially since i was gonna go 24/0 for 1 week (As the plants wont sex that soon anyway so i might as well keep the growth from stretching under 12/12) then 12/12 the rest of the way through. it would have worked.

im just fukin with u bro..do your thing..but i honestly would probably only put 15 one footers under each 600w..all to there own though..keep it green

ok guys guess what? looks like 1-2 of those sprouts may not make it...one wouldnt come up all the way and once i moved some dirt around lightly to see wtf is going on i seen that it was actually already dead...so that brings my total down to 14.

and i have one of my mystery strains that sprouted looking really warped...idk how to explain it but it has to be the oddest looking sprout ive seen.

i noticed that my mystery strain wasnt happy once it sprouted (they had a brownish/yellow spot on the leaves) those are turning green now but the one still looks jacked so ill have to let you know if it makes it...

i could end up with a crappy 13 sprouts...

keep ya head.it take time to lratn to pop seeds