Obama, Van Jones and the indoctrination of our children

Green Cross

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No this isn't a conspiracy this is actually happening.

September 3, 10:10 PM
Orange County Independent Examiner
Chad MacInnes


Looking for new and innovative ways to push his agenda, President Obama has adopted a different approach: market your message to the youth through the schools. This approach has become controversial as many see it as an attempt by the Administration to indoctrinate the children by targeting them with propaganda. Propaganda is generally dangerous not merely because of the content of message, but more so because the message is not the primary object of the propaganda – the person is. Thus the focus of such propaganda is to deify the messenger in the eyes of those being indoctrinated. But is Obama’s address intended as indoctrination?
Consider that The Salt Lake Tribune reports a disturbing video titled "I Pledge"

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was shown to students at Eagle Bay Elementary School in Farmington, Utah featured the usual Hollywood crowd of Obama-adoring celebrities making pledges to commit to working for Obama’s call to “summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other.” One of the participants in the video states: “I pledge to be of service to Barack Obama.” At the end of the video another asserts, “I pledge to be a servant to our President.” Then in unison: “together we are, and together we will be the change that we seek,” as the individual pictures of the celebrities morph into a mosaic of Obama. It is slightly disturbing to say the least.
Also, consider the “suggested” assignments related to President Obama’s address to schoolchildren on September 8 issued by the U.S. Department of Education:
Reading books about presidents and Barack Obama
Why is it important that we listen to the President and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress or the governor?
What is the President trying to tell me?
What is the President asking me to do?
What new ideas and actions is the President challenging me to think about?
What specific job is he asking me to do?
Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the President.
Consider that the White House has been pushing the National Endowment for the Arts to utilize art, artists and celebrities to push the President and his agenda.
Consider that there is a disturbing number of high-level advisors to the President like “Green Czar” Van Jones, FCC “Diversity Chief” Mark Lloyd, and ”Energy and Environment Czar” Carol Browner who are self-proclaimed and unrepentant Marxists, communists, or socialists and are outspoken admirers of Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez.
Consider, in particular, Van Jones’ “green” agenda. “Green” means something entirely different to Jones than to many other folks participating in the "green" movement. To Jones, the Administration's self-avowed Communist, "green" is code for "red." Jones has been actively involved as a leader with several radical Marxist organizations, including STORM, and has professed some radical ideas regarding race, economy, state, and environment:
Van Jones;
"Right after Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat if the civil rights leaders had jumped out and said, 'OK now we want reparations for slavery, we want redistribution of all the wealth, and we want to legalize mixed marriages.' If we'd come out with a maximum program the very next day, they'd been laughed at. Instead they came out with a very minimum. 'We just want to integrate these buses.'
"But, inside that minimum demand was a very radical kernel that eventually meant that from 1964 to 1968 complete revolution was on the table for this country. And, I think that this green movement has to pursue those same steps and stages. Right now we say we want to move from suicidal gray capitalism to something eco-capitalism where at least we're not fast-tracking the destruction of the whole planet. Will that be enough? No, it won't be enough. We want to go beyond the systems of exploitation and oppression altogether. But, that's a process and I think that's what's great about the movement that is beginning to emerge is that the crisis is so severe in terms of joblessness, violence and now ecological threats that people are willing to be both pragmatic and visionary. So the green economy will start off as a small subset and we are going to push it and push it and push it until it becomes the engine for transforming the whole society."
Consider that Barack Obama himself said just prior to his inauguration, "We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America." Unfortunately for the republic, Jones is only one of many high-ranking officials in the Obama Administration who seeks to fundamentally transform the whole society. Apparently the President shares his aspirations, otherwise Jones would still be working in Oakland at the Ella Baker Institute. Instead, he was observed and recruited by this White House.
To deny that a revolution is underway is insanity. It has been well planned, well funded and largely silent until recently. To think that so many radical revolutionary Marxists have been recruited to work in an Administration for a President who has surrounded himself with radical Marxists his entire life is mere coincidence is to deny the obvious. What is also obvious is that in order to succeed in their goal of transforming our society, these revolutionaries must naturally win over the next generation so as to perpetuate it. To think that they won't try is foolhardy.
AP Photo: Alex Brandon
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BadDog40

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If you wonder how McCarthyism occurred, just look to today. It's not McCarthyism today, it's Foxism - and people are just too stupid to know there is no difference. Fear mongering is fear mongering, period.
 

Green Cross

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If you wonder how McCarthyism occurred, just look to today. It's not McCarthyism today, it's Foxism - and people are just too stupid to know there is no difference. Fear mongering is fear mongering, period.
No American should pledge thier allegiance to any man, and we won't have our children brainwashed by this president or any other.

It's not a partisan issue
 

doobnVA

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GreenCross, I love you, but please let go of the old "i before e" rule. It's their, not thier.

Anyway, this is why it's important for parents to educate their children AT HOME, so they're less likely to buy into any nonsense they're fed at school.

I was shocked when my daughter's first grade class had a "mock election" last year. I understand the premise, but I strongly disagree with it. First graders are not able to understand politics, and they shouldn't be encouraged to "play" at it. I'm still having to explain to her why you can't just vote for the person all your friends are voting for.

I'm dreading the day when she comes home with a D.A.R.E. workbook...

Anyway, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that kids in public schools are already subject to these types of "indoctrination". It's our responsibility as parents to make sure they know the difference between fantasy and reality, propaganda and truth.
 

BadDog40

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No American should pledge thier allegiance to any man, and we won't have our children brainwashed by this president or any other.

It's not a partisan issue
Giving a speech to school kids about 'persisting and succeeding in school. The president will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning' has nothing to do with some made up crap about pledging allegiance to him.

Funny how some people have a problem with this but had no problem with

 

Big P

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obama seems to be trying to steal america and change it into Nazi germany,


any one who doesn't see this in even just a little bit is a fool, a mark and a do boy who deserves what he gets.


anything untoward and illegal by washington will be met with carnage and revolution if all avenues of recourse are blocked. Let me be the first to die in the service of my country and the removal of totalitarianism so my son can live free as I have

Hord your guns my brothers lets not take any chances incase we have to cull the government if they trample our rights. We will have to revolt all over again. hope its not anytime soon


the US army bases are chock full of pariots and they can never put the amry against us if they tried, the army will take up arms to free thier people from the communists like Van fucking Jones

his group wrote the cap and trade bill and most of the health care bill he is a 9/11 truther and a trojan horse, he wants communisum in american and has said so from his own mouth.

this slob better be fired.

or you may find the state governments of the south organizing,

if obama keeps harming america, we will have a huge republican majority in the congress this time next year and will impeach him.
 

Green Cross

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1 hour ago:

CONTROVERSY OVER OBAMA’S SPEECH TO YOUR CHILDREN CONTINUES

President Barack Obama and the U. S. Department of Education’s plan to address school children nationwide in the classroom has sparked an incredible amount of impassioned controversy and sent those who support the President’s classroom invasion to the internet scrambling to find examples of Republicans who may have committed the same onerous act.
The presumptive reason for the frenzy being the ability for Obama’s supporters to say, “You did it, now we can, too” or “Hey, it was okay then, but it’s not now”, or look “Two wrongs do make a right.” Which will most certainly be followed by cries of “Hypocrite!” and strings of unpublishable profanity from both sides. Let's face it, if the shoe were on the Republican foot, the Democrats would be just as angry. Enough. Here’s the deal folks.
Ronald Reagan addressed school children in November of 1988, as his two-terms in office were winding down. Why no outcry? Ronald Reagan’s address was delivered on national television via CSPAN. So what?
Here’s what: In delivering the address nationally parents were not separated from the event. Parents had the ability to be instantly included, not excluded, while someone (even the President of The United States) addressed their children without parental oversight. Please note, I said “parental” not “adult” oversight.
In addition, there was no “lesson plan” delivered to the children to follow, and no assignments issued to the kids as follow up to Reagan’s speech by finding ways to “serve” Reagan.
In 1991, George H.W. Bush also addressed children in the classroom. This time it was done as part of an event related to space exploration and was part of a National Space Science Symposium.
George H.W. Bush, gave a brief speech and then did Q & A with the kids, the entire transcript of which is HERE.
So, no problem from the left regarding this speech, right? Wrong! Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.), who was the House Majority Leader, said, "The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students."
Bush’s speech was a closed-circuit speech, not nationally or publicly televised. I don’t like that either. I don’t agree with it, and had I been a parent back in ’91 I would have been equally against such a speech outside of my ability to supervise it with my children as I am with Obama’s planned speech.
However, there was also still one major difference between George Bush 41’s address to the students and Obama’s planned address. Bush did not have a lesson plan follow up designed to encourage children to support him personally.
On to today and Obama. Since the controversy erupted, Obama’s people have moved quickly to change the language and focus of the planned September 8 speech. Why? If it wasn’t politically motivated, why change it? If it wasn’t indoctrination, why change it? If you were right, why not stand by your original plan? Should certain words have been calibrated differently? Again!
According to a report from ABC News Senior White House Reporter, Jake Tapper, The White House has changed the language in the original “Lesson Plans”.
Heather Higginbottom, deputy director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, said it was "inartfully worded."
"We changed it. The whole lesson plan speaks to setting goals in increasing their educational achievement," she said.
“Inartfully worded”? “I could've calibrated those words differently," – Barack Obama. What’s up with all the misspeaking and poorly calibrated inartfully worded info?
According to his supporters Obama has the greatest intellect of any person to ever walk the face of the earth. How can it be that such inartfully worded plans disseminate from the White House in such poorly calibrated ways so often, even when Joe Biden isn’t speaking? Doesn’t anyone there look at this stuff before it goes public? Or are they like children who think, let’s push the boundaries as far as we can and see what we can get away with?
For example: This current incident is not the first case of Obama targeting your children. Please see the following screen shot from Obama’s website. This particular language was removed quickly after a backlash from the people:
Under the heading “America Serves” was the following statement:
“Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school (that’s 11 year olds, folks) and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.”
Nothing wrong with public service. Our family serves, our 11 year old serves. There is however something fundamentally wrong with government mandated service for children.
Here’s the deal. This whole “let me speak to your kids without you present”, and without your consent…which no one asked for by the way…is not a Republican issue. It’s not a Democrat issue. It’s not a conservative, nor a liberal, issue. It’s not even a political issue for me. It’s a Daddy issue.
I want the President of the United States of America to uphold his oath of office, and to be the leader of our nation.I don’t care if that President is Ronald Reagan, either of the Bushes, Clinton or Obama.
Politicians have made a big deal about their kids being “off-limits”. From Clinton to the Bush twins to Obama, every sitting president and presidential candidate has said, “My kids are off-limits”. Guess what, Mr. President, so are mine.
Schools should be teaching reading, writing, math, science, and yes civics – not politics – not political ideology. Big Difference!
Please see the related stories below find out how your school district will be handling the President’s planned September 8 speech and “Lesson Plan”.The Cypress Times will update that information as it is confirmed.
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medicineman

New Member
You righties need to step back and look at how crazy this sounds. Obama trying to brainwash our children. The brainwashing occures every day in school, revisionist history they calls it, done by Jingoistic right wing freaks. I guess you righties can now claim the freakdom, "My Lawdy", freaks everywhere.
 

Big P

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You righties need to step back and look at how crazy this sounds. Obama trying to brainwash our children. The brainwashing occures every day in school, revisionist history they calls it, done by Jingoistic right wing freaks. I guess you righties can now claim the freakdom, "My Lawdy", freaks everywhere.

medi im more concerned about this van jones guy, he spent time in prison and is an admitted communist and obama put him in charge as green csar by appointment without being approved first by his own congress

this guy and his group wrote the cap and trade bill!!!!! he wrote most of the healthcare bill!!! i know you are a patriot medi.


read about this fucker, obama put this guy in power knowing all about his im almost sure about it!!!

im very very concerned, they are trying somthing very nasty my friend.


i cant believe we put a guy in office who is a fucking for real socalist not just like a funny thing to call a liberal he is a fucking for real socialist communist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







 

doobnVA

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Well, the public schools here have already issued a statement that they won't "require" students to watch the address, if they even chose to show it at all (some of them aren't planning on it, they have better things to do). If parents want their kids to watch it, they can record it and watch it at home, TOGETHER.

The day of the address is the first day of school for kids here.

It isn't as if he's FORCING schools to show this, it's completely voluntary. If you don't want your kid watching it, and their school has chosen to show it, then keep them home that day.
 

MuyLocoNC

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Giving a speech to school kids about 'persisting and succeeding in school. The president will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning' has nothing to do with some made up crap about pledging allegiance to him.
I think the problem came about from the packet that was sent out with assignments for the students to write about "what they can do to help President Obama" This has been removed due to the outcry.

Funny how some people have a problem with this but had no problem with
I have no problem with President Obama reading story books to our children.
 

medicineman

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medi im more concerned about this van jones guy, he spent time in prison and is an admitted communist and obama put him in charge as green csar by appointment without being approved first by his own congress

this guy and his group wrote the cap and trade bill!!!!! he wrote most of the healthcare bill!!! i know you are a patriot medi.


read about this fucker, obama put this guy in power knowing all about his im almost sure about it!!!

im very very concerned, they are trying somthing very nasty my friend.


i cant believe we put a guy in office who is a fucking for real socalist not just like a funny thing to call a liberal he is a fucking for real socialist communist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First, Yes I'm a patriot, but for maybe different reasons than you. I went to war, didn't like it at all. How anyone could like getting shot at is way beyond my reasoning.
Second, I'm for a smattering of socialism here in this capitalist hold out. I mean, SS and Medicare are already socialist Ideas. I'd like to see corporations owned by the employees, free single payer medical, free tuition to all colleges, status of which should be controlled by grade point averages. There are a few other "socialist" ideas I would approve, but I'd keep capitalism around in a modified manner.
As for Van Jones, here's a quick Bio, I really can't see the harm:

Anthony "Van" Jones (born September 20, 1968) is the Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at the White House Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ).[1] Appointed by Barack Obama in March 2009, the newly created position will find Jones working with various "agencies and departments to advance the administration's climate and energy initiatives, with a special focus on improving vulnerable communities."[2]
Jones is an environmental advocate, civil rights activist, attorney and author. He founded the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights in 1996, a California NGO working for alternatives to violence. During his tenure as the Executive Director for the Ella Baker Center, Jones signed a petition for 911Truth.org in 2004.[3] In 2005, Jones co-founded Color of Change, an advocacy group for African Americans.[4] Formerly based in Oakland, California, Jones founded Green For All in 2007, a national NGO dedicated to "building an inclusive green economy strong enough to lift people out of poverty."[5] His first book, The Green Collar Economy, was released on October 7, 2008, and reached number 12 on the New York Times bestseller list.[6]
In 2008, Time magazine named Jones one of its "Environmental Heroes."[7] Fast Company called him one of the "12 Most Creative Minds of 2008."[8]
 

hanimmal

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On to today and Obama. Since the controversy erupted, Obama’s people have moved quickly to change the language and focus of the planned September 8 speech. Why? If it wasn’t politically motivated, why change it? If it wasn’t indoctrination, why change it? If you were right, why not stand by your original plan? Should certain words have been calibrated differently? Again!
According to a report from ABC News Senior White House Reporter, Jake Tapper, The White House has changed the language in the original “Lesson Plans”.
Heather Higginbottom, deputy director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, said it was "inartfully worded."
"We changed it. The whole lesson plan speaks to setting goals in increasing their educational achievement," she said.
“Inartfully worded”? “I could've calibrated those words differently," – Barack Obama. What’s up with all the misspeaking and poorly calibrated inartfully worded info?
NNNNOOO!!!!!! You cannot ever revise anything Obama! Don't you get that by now, you think that you have worded everything too over the heads of the kids and want to change it tough! If you think they dumbed it down too much! So what, you cannot change anything, because what you could have possibly had before the change will instantly be something akin to forced mindreading, I think he used the machine from Josie and the Pussycats!

Under the heading “America Serves” was the following statement:
“Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school (that’s 11 year olds, folks) and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.”
Nothing wrong with public service. Our family serves, our 11 year old serves. There is however something fundamentally wrong with government mandated service for children.

Not community service!!!! I mean why would you want something that helps you be more apart of the community you live in and looks great on college applications and job applications! Whats next higher requirements for math and reading?? What is this world coming to?

Here’s the deal. This whole “let me speak to your kids without you present”, and without your consent…which no one asked for by the way…is not a Republican issue. It’s not a Democrat issue. It’s not a conservative, nor a liberal, issue. It’s not even a political issue for me. It’s a Daddy issue.
Or maybe a lazy parent issue, parents are allowed to help out schools. Infact teachers tend to love parental involvement. And if parents really had an issue they could just take them out to lunch during the presidential speech. But I guess that is too involved for a lot of parents.

Schools should be teaching reading, writing, math, science, and yes civics – not politics – not political ideology. Big Difference!
Please see the related stories below find out how your school district will be handling the President’s planned September 8 speech and “Lesson Plan”.The Cypress Times will update that information as it is confirmed.
Not history? I mean having an opportunity to have our children be able to say they had seen the first black president in history in a school speech would not be good. I mean whats next prime time cut ins that force us to not watch the simpsons and forced to watch the president talk! Not in my home!
 

hanimmal

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medi im more concerned about this van jones guy, he spent time in prison and is an admitted communist and obama put him in charge as green csar by appointment without being approved first by his own congress

this guy and his group wrote the cap and trade bill!!!!! he wrote most of the healthcare bill!!! i know you are a patriot medi.
I saw this on Beck the other day. They were guessing everything that he was involved with. And even said on that show that he is only in charge of developing the new green job initiative. He has had nothing to do with any bills. His only job is to help create green jobs which I don't care what they are that is not something that can be screwed up.
 

hanimmal

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No joke the only reason I somewhat enjoyed those stupid anti drug/STD pep rallies? that the way to happy god kids would do, was that they always would have a few really good looking girls that didn't go to our schools! The rest was not even in one ear to be let out the other ear.
 

MuyLocoNC

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All that scary anti drug stuff worked very well on me. I didn't smoke my first joint until I was 26 yrs old. Of course, it would have been difficult to smoke MJ at all during my term of service in the Army anyways, but I missed out on 5 good years I could have been after I transitioned out.
 
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