Nutrients for soil grows

En Sabah Nur II

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My grow is in a 2'x3.5'x4' area in my bedroom closet. my wife is very concerned about bad odors so feces fertilizer may be out of the question in my case.
 

En Sabah Nur II

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This is what Im going for. MG products because of price and simplicity. And the method came out fine with only MG products?

Nuthin fancy for me.. this is pretty representative for my norm of late using CFL and Miracle Grow 'All Purpose' from start to end. Only other thing I have in my bag of tricks is a simple PH litmus test, alcohol and h20.


Miracle Grow? Get's the job done. Cost? I dunno.. I bought a box last year for 6 bucks, I have harvested about a lb and a half/2 lbs since and still have half a box.

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I'm not a 'fan'. It's cheap and works and I use it. Had of Jacks or another all purpose been on sale that day I would of bought that instead. Like I said, I am simple and only do this for myself anymore, I don't like to bother with extra stuff and my plants don't seem to mind as long as they are getting their NPK and trace.
 

Joe Blows Trees

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Base Soil:

2cu ft Sphagnum peat moss
1cu ft manure/compost
1cu ft Organic potting soil
40 lbs EWC
Red Lava Rocks(aeration)


Amendments:

2 cups Rock phosphate
2 cups Greensand
2 cups Azomite
1 cup Oyster shells
1 cup Blood meal
2 cups Bone meal
2 cups Kelp meal
1 cup Diameaticous earth
1 cup Epsom salt
1 cup Garden lime
Handful of worms


Also use compost tea, coconut water, and molasses.
 

Rasta Roy

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My grow is in a 2'x3.5'x4' area in my bedroom closet. my wife is very concerned about bad odors so feces fertilizer may be out of the question in my case.
I love my wife. She is gorgeous and fun to be around and I don't know what I did in a past life to deserve her. But I would put her out on the street if she ever made me compromise the quality of my cannabis. Lol.
Bat Guano don't stink that bad tho! It will make your buds super stank tho!
But really my man do you not have a basement? Or do you live in an apartment? Or are you not in a legal state? Do you not have cash for a carbon filter?

MG totally works if you're into that. But when I'm in the smoker's circle, I like knowing my stuff is the best. Everybody is pausing to say something positive about my shit.

I buy peat moss, perlite, and compost at my local landscape supplier for super cheap. I do splurge on the roots organics worm castings at the grow store but I top dress with it and it's my only fertilizer I have to use for veg. Plus the cubic foot bag will last me about six months. I get Bat and seabird Guano at the grow store as well but they're not that expensive compared to how long they last and the quality bud they produce. I get Alfalfa Meal, kelp meal, fish bone meal, and gypsum from a local garden supplier for super cheap and mix em in my soil. I know it sounds complicated but those things replace every single hormone supplement, plant additive, growth hormone bullshit product the growstore will try to make you spend hundreds of dollars on.

Miracle-Gro will produce a plant that provides you with buds and if that's you're only goal then do your thing my man. But if you develop a passion for growing and understanding plants then you wouldn't even want to bother with it.

Think of it this way, you can make spaghetti with a can of prego sauce. But you aren't really cooking you know? You make a real sauce from scratch you don't buy it in a can.
 
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En Sabah Nur II

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I love my wife. She is gorgeous and fun to be around and I don't know what I did in a past life to deserve her. But I would put her out on the street if she ever made me compromise the quality of my cannabis. Lol.
Bat Guano don't stink that bad tho! It will make your buds super stank tho!
But really my man do you not have a basement? Or do you live in an apartment? Or are you not in a legal state? Do you not have cash for a carbon filter?

MG totally works if you're into that. But when I'm in the smoker's circle, I like knowing my stuff is the best. Everybody is pausing to say something positive about my shit.

I buy peat moss, perlite, and compost at my local landscape supplier for super cheap. I do splurge on the roots organics worm castings at the grow store but I top dress with it and it's my only fertilizer I have to use for veg. Plus the cubic foot bag will last me about six months. I get Bat and seabird Guano at the grow store as well but they're not that expensive compared to how long they last and the quality bud they produce. I get Alfalfa Meal, kelp meal, fish bone meal, and gypsum from a local garden supplier for super cheap and mix em in my soil. I know it sounds complicated but those things replace every single hormone supplement, plant additive, growth hormone bullshit product the growstore will try to make you spend hundreds of dollars on.

Miracle-Gro will produce a plant that provides you with buds and if that's you're only goal then do your thing my man. But if you develop a passion for growing and understanding plants then you wouldn't even want to bother with it.

Think of it this way, you can make spaghetti with a can of prego sauce. But you aren't really cooking you know? You make a real sauce from scratch you don't buy it in a can.
I live in a small house with a wife and 2 other adult housemates, none enjoy the smell of marijuana. Ive priced carbon filters, it too much for my budget. I would go complex, organic, expensive, but cash and other factors create limits. :sad: My entire grow has to be done cheap with minimal smell.

What about Fox Farms organic soil? Is much strong smell from that?
 
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Rasta Roy

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I live in a small house with a wife and 2 other adult housemates, none enjoy the smell of marijuana. Ive priced carbon filters, it too much for my budget. I would go complex, organic, expensive, but cash and other factors create limits. :sad: My entire grow has to be done cheap with minimal smell.

What about Fox Farms organic soil? Is much strong smell from that?
Fox Farm organic soil has all the things in it I told you I put in my soil. No matter what you're going to have a smell my man. Carbon filter, access to dechlorinated or reverse osmosis water, an exhaust fan hooked up to a proper outtake, room fans, proper air intake, temperature control (air conditioner and a heater if it gets too cold when they're in the dark), high intensity lighting. These are all things that are twice as important as the nutrients you would feed your plants and just as important as the medium you grow in. And you've got housemates to worry about getting in your shit? It sounds like growing is too much of a hassle for you. I would just buy weed if I was that restricted on what I could do. Work double shifts, save your money. Get your own place and get yourself set up properly. That or find a park or a relative with a place in the country and go throw some seeds outside then use that money to get yourself set up. You gotta work for the dream brother!
 

En Sabah Nur II

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Fox Farm organic soil has all the things in it I told you I put in my soil. No matter what you're going to have a smell my man. Carbon filter, access to dechlorinated or reverse osmosis water, an exhaust fan hooked up to a proper outtake, room fans, proper air intake, temperature control (air conditioner and a heater if it gets too cold when they're in the dark), high intensity lighting. These are all things that are twice as important as the nutrients you would feed your plants and just as important as the medium you grow in. And you've got housemates to worry about getting in your shit? It sounds like growing is too much of a hassle for you. I would just buy weed if I was that restricted on what I could do. Work double shifts, save your money. Get your own place and get yourself set up properly. That or find a park or a relative with a place in the country and go throw some seeds outside then use that money to get yourself set up. You gotta work for the dream brother!
Keep in mind we are not all able bodied though. Im on disability, money is tight. So leaving the house for a job isnt among my options. It must all be done on the cheap cheap.
I'll place pinecones soaked in oil fragrance in the room with the plants to lessen their smell. hopefully odor is masked enough.
 

Listetaa

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I am on my first grow. using GHE Flora series the starter pack with FloraGro, FloraMicro, FloraBloom and Mineral Magic, the store i by from more or less threw it after my at since i keep annoyin him, so im sticking with it till i learned my abc's (guess buggin them helps lol)

just ordered some more stuff. Diamond nectar and Bio Bloom to give it a bit more of a kick and the schedule is simple and easy to start off with.

Had a rough start with my Girls, they where having an attitude problem, in response i twice daily show them a picture of my former mother in-law, cut their music privileges and forbid them to see any males. that'll teach em!

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Cobnobuler

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If your concerned about smell, with the exception of a good carbon filter fan from about the 5th week of flower until the end, the smell will permeate nearly every square inch of the dwelling.
Believe it. Ya there are some lower odor strains and some will be far worse than others, but theres really no hiding it. I ran without a carbon scrubber for the first few years that I grew. At its peak you could smell it even outside of my house.
 

budman111

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If your concerned about smell, with the exception of a good carbon filter fan from about the 5th week of flower until the end, the smell will permeate nearly every square inch of the dwelling.
Believe it. Ya there are some lower odor strains and some will be far worse than others, but theres really no hiding it. I ran without a carbon scrubber for the first few years that I grew. At its peak you could smell it even outside of my house.
That is where an ozone generator can come in handy.
 

Biggchong

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I'm using Ocean forest and nectar for the gods for half of my grow and coco, AN Jungle Juice 3 part bas for the rest. Total of 5 in OF and 4 in Coco. 1K HPS
pics coming soon
 

Rasta Roy

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I'm using Ocean forest and nectar for the gods for half of my grow and coco, AN Jungle Juice 3 part bas for the rest. Total of 5 in OF and 4 in Coco. 1K HPS
pics coming soon
You know that you have to add extra calcium and magnesium if you use coco as a medium right? But I think that might only be if you're using ro water. Tap water you might not have to? But I think the pH is a little different too. But I'm not sure I don't need to mess with pH (organics) Coco has wierd rules. You should have mixed the coco and ocean forest together (or just saved your money and bought a bag of promix).
 

Biggchong

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You know that you have to add extra calcium and magnesium if you use coco as a medium right? But I think that might only be if you're using ro water. Tap water you might not have to? But I think the pH is a little different too. But I'm not sure I don't need to mess with pH (organics) Coco has wierd rules. You should have mixed the coco and ocean forest together (or just saved your money and bought a bag of promix).
promix is what Im using. I use distilled water. If I have to add extra calcium and magnesium, then the 3 part base of jungle juice would be worthless.
 
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