Nutrient companies are stealing our / your money. Lets talk about it!

hydroMD said:

Lmao

Only thing you have to worry about in organics are gnats?

Wtf you talking about!!!

Thrips, mites, aphids, gnats etc

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Milovan said:

What do you do when the available neuts in soil amended veg or flower grows
go flat (are spent) after awhile but you want to keep the plants in their current pots?

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You have to amend as you go occasionally. If you do, you can recycle without disturbing the soil (no-till)

hahaha to fucking funny here PK sorry i do not have anything flowering presently only vegging girls like i said doing seed run this time around with most of plants out door and as its coming into summer here i do not do indoor grows ,, but hey there will be about 8 plants harvesting buds
but Stay tuned there i will make sure to post pictures as they grow and most importantly show you 30 - 40 pound harvest green house style
some pictures i found on the internet you wing nut

owe fuck one more for you some purple kush grown like 4 - 5 yeas ago this is not my first BBQ

pk_boosted2 said:

Secondly those buds r long and appear big. But i guarantee soon as they were cut down and dried they shriveled up to nothing. They are very airy. And u can see all the fox tails growing off the bud shoots. He either let em bloom for too long or applied too much nitrogen and not enough pk during bloom period. Which u can see in the pic of the dried flower 2nd from bottom.

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You are wrong as can be those buds are pretty solid. I passed some cuts around to some guys that post on here lets see what they say about it when they bud her out. ..and she has a good flower to leaf ratio.

The 70s Afghani x Skunk grows a little leafy but the buds are solid as a rock w a very strong complex sat hi.

You can gro good buds w AN...you can w almost anything but is it the best for your money? I found w AN sensi AB by it self was best for me...but still I wasn't getting everything outa the plant. I had sone probs w AN before I knew about forums called fat mike several times on the phone. I ended up cussin his dumb ass out twice then he wouldn't talk to me any more LOL.

Nice grows bro each to his own...maybe a cut of that NYCD x OG K will get passed around some more and you can see for yourself if those buds are airy. Good yields of some killer sativa smoke. I'm gonna roll 1 now.

Take care man

ME? well i use a different soil system than most everyone on here.. my foods and shit are all at the base of my grows.. promix fills the rest of my container... as long as your in the guidelines grow wise your never going to "go flat" like i flower almost everything in 2 gallon buckets... i put albs of my soil at the bottom fill the rest up with promix .. plant my clone and water.. thats it.. with albs of my soil i can veg for 2 months and get through a full flower.. ... now say i start in a 2 gallon and decide instead of flowering it I'm going to keep it in veg.. once the plants at about 2-3 months veg time i pull it out transfer it into a 5 gallon where i have 5lb. of fresh new hot soil at the bottom... i put a few inches of promix on top of the hot soil so that my plants roots don't come into direct contact with the hot soil.. then fill in the sides and remaining area with promix..
its always hard to explain in words..

Milovan said:

What do you do when the available neuts in soil amended veg or flower grows
go flat (are spent) after awhile but you want to keep the plants in their current pots?

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heres a 2 gallon rooting system close to end veg . you can see where the roots stop thats the hot soil...



heres the same 2 gallon mid flower....





heres the 2 gallon at the end of flower day of harvest... you can see the how soil that was on the base has basically been utilized...

after my grows are done i take and dump all my loose soil .. shake off any on the dead roots .... into my garden and grind it in every year.... i also put my left over soil into my wives flower beds and crap.. i never reuse my soil..well i guess technically i do but i reuse it outside on my veggie gardens.

when i said i just pull them out and transfer this is one i pulled out to move to a five..

phil k said:

ME? well i use a different soil system than most everyone on here.. my foods and shit are all at the base of my grows.. promix fills the rest of my container... as long as your in the guidelines grow wise your never going to "go flat" like i flower almost everything in 2 gallon buckets... i put albs of my soil at the bottom fill the rest up with promix .. plant my clone and water.. thats it.. with albs of my soil i can veg for 2 months and get through a full flower.. ... now say i start in a 2 gallon and decide instead of flowering it I'm going to keep it in veg.. once the plants at about 2-3 months veg time i pull it out transfer it into a 5 gallon where i have 5lb. of fresh new hot soil at the bottom... i put a few inches of promix on top of the hot soil so that my plants roots don't come into direct contact with the hot soil.. then fill in the sides and remaining area with promix..
its always hard to explain in words..

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Not sure on what kind of power you are using but 2 - 3 months veg your going to need a hell of a lot more then 5 gallon let alone 2 gallon for 2 - 3 month vegged plant ,
IMO your plants would be seriously root bound????? at 3 weeks i am already in 5 gallon just saying
Also with the soil procedure you say you do,,, And most people use the runoff method being water to run off.
With that in mind and you having your hot mix at bottom.. it would leach out at a greater rate and nothing to stop it being, there is no other soil to catch some of the leached minerals. Personally i do not think that is a good or efficient way to go about it .. But again i am not here to judge your methods do what works good for your situation

bro... PK .. give it up and go on.. damn its been two fucking days of bickering on the post....and i don't wanna feed into it but they are right your making yourself look bad... just chill

Darth Vapour said:

Not sure on what kind of power you are using but 2 - 3 months veg your going to need a hell of a lot more then 5 gallon let alone 2 gallon for 2 - 3 month vegged plant ,
IMO your plants would be seriously root bound????? at 3 weeks i am already in 5 gallon just saying
Also with the soil procedure you say you do,,, And most people use the runoff method being water to run off.
With that in mind and you having your hot mix at bottom.. it would leach out at a greater rate and nothing to stop it being, there is no other soil to catch some of the leached minerals. Personally i do not think that is a good or efficient way to go about it .. But again i am not here to judge your methods do what works good for your situation

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no i veg and flower in two gallon buckets all the fucking time P. and before we even fucking argue.. I'm sure you don't know a 2 gallon pail holds the same media space as a 3 gallon smart pot.

so its not technically 2

every single photo you see posted in the "real growers bring your A game" by me ... EVERYTHING is in 2 gallon pails...

im lost on why people think they need all this fucking root space for flower.. i hit 3oz all the time in a 2 gallon bucket..

phil k said:

im lost on why people think they need all this fucking root space for flower.. i hit 3oz all the time in a 2 gallon bucket..

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So they can get more then 3 oz a plant. Thats in the newbie section bro. And its a fine read. Check it out!!!!

depending on the strain i hit 5 -8 oz on a 5 gallon grow ... but your not verging in a 5 gallon bucket for a month and hitting 6-8 oz.. you still need to utilize your root space or your doing nothing more than having wasted soil nd area...... i also stirp my plants mostly to main colas only .. point being if I'm going to do a 1.5 month veg I'm not going to have more production in a 5 gallon than i would in a 3 gallon as long as the plants needs are met.

a mongo frog said:

So they can get more then 3 oz a plant. Thats in the newbie section bro. And its a fine read. Check it out!!!!

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seriously what the fuck are you even talking about?

phil k said:

seriously what the fuck are you even talking about?

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Don't get angry phil....

Darth Vapour said:

Not sure on what kind of power you are using but 2 - 3 months veg your going to need a hell of a lot more then 5 gallon let alone 2 gallon for 2 - 3 month vegged plant ,
IMO your plants would be seriously root bound????? at 3 weeks i am already in 5 gallon just saying
Also with the soil procedure you say you do,,, And most people use the runoff method being water to run off.
With that in mind and you having your hot mix at bottom.. it would leach out at a greater rate and nothing to stop it being, there is no other soil to catch some of the leached minerals. Personally i do not think that is a good or efficient way to go about it .. But again i am not here to judge your methods do what works good for your situation

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Actually as far as leaching goes, microbes and fungal hyphae will bind with nutrient elements due to the cation anion relationship...

If you have a good soil web ya dont have to worry about leaching nutrients out of your soil