Nutes too much or not enough??

intenseneal

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Clone transplanted to soil about a week ago and it is not looking to happy. Just started giving them veg nutes. In the cloning tray it looked great nice and green with no nutes only straight RO water.
 

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hotrodharley

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Keep going and don't worry - yet at least. Feed, water, water. 1/4 strength nutes to start and check for response or the lack thereof. Do not overwater - the #1 killer of all plants "cared for" by man. The reduced strength is to allow for the plants root systems ability to take up what is offered and the ability to diffuse is limited from inside the plant itself. Next feeding increase to 1/2 strength and then water, water. Then 3/4 and repeat. Only after that do you feed full strength and generally by then it's bloom nutes and begin again. Doing that keeps you from overnuting which happens when forgetting and feeding too soon and thereby increasing the nutes toward lockout. It's hard to feed too little if feeding at all. It's extremely easy to overfertilize and then have to handle that.
 

spitsbuds

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when did you give them nutes as it takes 4 to 7 days to be broken down and taken up and moved round the plant, also this is only my opinion, then things, i forgot there name now, the pots you've got you're plants in, they always seem to cause problems,
 

squarepush3r

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honestly, looks like bug damage and possibly cal/mag deficiency too. So, to answer probably too little nutes.
 

intenseneal

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You know there was a little nute water splashed on the plants, getting lazy about watering with care. I did not know that would burn them but now that I think about it good point. I give all my plants camg from day 1 of veg so I really dont think it is camg issue. Even when I was not giving them any camg on my first round of veg plants I did not have these spots. No more bugs I fixed that issue.
 

intenseneal

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Read the first post I dose GO CaMg+ 5mls per gallon and when I start nutes I do start slowly. Pretty sure it is nute splash. Thanks superstoner1
 

|B3RNY|

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That's a pH problem. You answered your own question in the first post- looked good on RO but then turned to crap when it got fed. You need to flush the soil immediately and give them a very light nutrient mix, pH'd around 6 or 7. Look at the bottom leafs/older growth, you really think that's a 'splash burn'? They will eventually need Calmag with RO water because it contains none but those plants are waay too young to have a deficiency of any kind growing in soil... that's ridiculous. Adding nutrients is only going to hurt the plants even worse. Fix the pH and they will start growing again in a day or 2.
 

|B3RNY|

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I would recommend that if you have no way to check pH or no way to get a pH pen or test drops then just flush your soil very well, RO water is a pH that will be good for them, flushing should bring your pH to somewhere in between the pH it is now and the pH of clean water (which is about 7.) I didn't mean to sound like I was telling anybody what to do, if I did... but trust me man, that's a certain pH problem & it will continue to get worse until corrected. The big fan leaf in the left of the picture looks like it may have had a splash of something hit it but the fan leaf in the older growth in the right of the picture is being eaten by the plant, the only reason a plant that age (assuming it's not reused soil) would have deficiencies showing like that would be from a nutrient lock out. pH.

If it's a clone, then that's different but you'll still need to fix the pH, then start low with nutrients and work your way up. A deficiency is usually better than a toxicity.
 

Clown Baby

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No one seems to have a definitive answer, so I'll add my .02.

I've foliar fed plants in the middle of summer, 90F+ weather, and they don't burn like that.
I think people only get actual pH issues when they really fuck up and way overfeed a plant. A lot of people will blame pH when they don't understand what's going on. But unless you've been pissing in that soil or dumping shit in it before using it to pot your plants, i dont know that pH is the culprit. Where'd you get the soil? Like the guy above said, flushing cant hurt, but it's not going to remove anything unless there was something wrong there in the first place

I've got some sativas (Mau-mau from Blazing Pistileros) that get really finicky for calcium. They kind of start looking like that even as seedlings (as soon as 5 nodes), if I dont supplement their water with calcium nitrate.

If your tap water really that bad? You might want to just stop using R/O. Most people don't really need it, and guys at the hydro store just want you to buy stuff. All it's doing is filtering our your calcium so you have to add it back.
 

superstoner1

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there is a huge difference between a foliar feed and full strength nute water getting splashed on them. test it.
 

intenseneal

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Ph of my water is 6.0-6.5 even after nutes. If it was a PH problem then all my plants would be effected since they all get the same RO water. And I dont get why you guys think I am not feeding them CaMg cause I have said that I am a few times. Unless I am flushing the plants always get CaMg with a watering. The soil I am using is from HomeDepot and it is Kellogg Patio Mix potting soil, pretty decent soil for our uses and really cheap. Every plant gets new soil, it is pointless to reuse soil when it is low in cost. All my plants but one in veg are clones. I have 1 Sour Green started from bag seed. Oh and I have already given that clone I am having a problem with in the pic a good RO only flush. All new growth is green and healthy.
 

xxEMOxx

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It looks like a micro and ph issue to me........

I would start like a 1/2 dose of a good base nute. and add some cal-mag.... cal-mag always goes in first btw..... then ph it to like 6.0 and water with it.....

Splash Burn looks different then that..... splash burn looks more like k or p def. and is generally clearly noticeable not just small little almost flecking spots like he has there.
 
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