Nothing is working idk what to do day 43 flower

hotrodharley said:

Make sure it's not close! Most need minimum 18"-22". It's not the heat alone.

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What do u mean it’s not t

Blitz35 said:

That's a general statement. Plants will translocate nutrients in veg as well if it doesn't have it at the roots, it makes no difference whether it's in flower or veg. If he has a deficiency, which i mentioned to him a number of times but he ignores it, so i watch him struggle, then how is that a 'never-ending' losing battle? The plant is programmed to eat its leaves all the time..if it does not have the food available. It only takes 10% of an element to be missing for leaves to start showing signs. He has a clear deficiency that has been building for weeks, he keeps flushing for some reason and doesn't understand why his problem is getting worse.

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bro I listen, I’m feeding it’s not changing... I flushed earlier and started feeding. If the runoff of my plant is testing at 4.6 why wouldn’t I flush? Wouldn’t it be harmful to continue feeding? After the flush I started feeding and it’s not getting better.....idk what to tell you. You’re assuming that I’m ignoring you meanwhile I’m not and the plant is getting worse.

Leafylimbo said:

What do u mean it’s not t

bro I listen, I’m feeding it’s not changing... I flushed earlier and started feeding. If the runoff of my plant is testing at 4.6 why wouldn’t I flush? Wouldn’t it be harmful to continue feeding? After the flush I started feeding and it’s not getting better.....idk what to tell you. You’re assuming that I’m ignoring you meanwhile I’m not and the plant is getting worse.

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I mean IT'S NOT JUST HEAT that should determine distance.

hotrodharley said:

I mean IT'S NOT JUST HEAT that should determine distance.

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hotrodharley said:

I mean IT'S NOT JUST HEAT that should determine distance.

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I didn’t know that, I’m glad I do now. Thanks

Leafylimbo said:

What do u mean it’s not t

bro I listen, I’m feeding it’s not changing... I flushed earlier and started feeding. If the runoff of my plant is testing at 4.6 why wouldn’t I flush? Wouldn’t it be harmful to continue feeding? After the flush I started feeding and it’s not getting better.....idk what to tell you. You’re assuming that I’m ignoring you meanwhile I’m not and the plant is getting worse.

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Your common sense is working. I think they are over fed. that's why your PH is low. I would flush them with high ph water and feed them 1/4 strength next week. If they recover you may be able to feed a little more but they may never take what you were feeding them before.

70's natureboy said:

Your common sense is working. I think they are over fed. that's why your PH is low. I would flush them with high ph water and feed them 1/4 strength next week. If they recover you may be able to feed a little more but they may never take what you were feeding them before.

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That’s exactly what I did, I started feeding really low and I gave them an extra 2 hours of darkness. I figured I had nute lockout....the color of the plant is getting better. Unfortunately, the burned leaves are pretty bad but the rest of the plant is fine. I noticed within a couple days the buds are getting a little thicker.

70's natureboy said:

Your common sense is working. I think they are over fed. that's why your PH is low. I would flush them with high ph water and feed them 1/4 strength next week. If they recover you may be able to feed a little more but they may never take what you were feeding them before.

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Thanks for the advice!

Leafylimbo said:

Wtf is going on it’s gettig worse every day 43 flower top leaves are most effected bottoms have tip burn buds don’t seem to be fattening up fml

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Overwatered, for one thing. Hence the bloat and droop. You’re leeching P, K, and Mg or you are locking them out due to overly wet roots, maybe even lack of O2 in the root zone. Looks to be more recent. Are you flushing or something? Because stop flushing.

Ok .... first STOP FLUSHING ...all you are doing is continuously LEACHING the soil , while you are trying to fix.

PH everything you put in THAT SOIL at 6.5 only and always ( water and or feed mix )

You have the classic brown sawtooth look ... use TIGER BLOOM ONLY.
If you have Beastie Bloom ( even better for this ) mix up a feed of this only.
Your soil may have hit a depleting state ( flushing and length of grow ) so you can stop by increased
P and K.

Leaves WILL NOT RECOVER .... you are only trying to stop further progression

There is a fine line between flushing and drowning but you have to do what you have to do. Those plants are in toxic soil with too much P and K and low PH. Do not feed more bloom nutes. I hate to disagree with everyone else but but hey, that's RIU. Look at my signature lol.

Fox farm is garbage, get better nutrients next time around, the plants are too far in flower to try and fix.... flush a gallon of ph'd water and feed it at 1/4 or 1/2 strength nutrients till ya chop... Better results will come next grow once you change from fox farm garbage....

Budget Buds said:

Fox farm is garbage, get better nutrients next time around, the plants are too far in flower to try and fix.... flush a gallon of ph'd water and feed it at 1/4 or 1/2 strength nutrients till ya chop... Better results will come next grow once you change from fox farm garbage....

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Fox farm has been gold for me in the past....this plant is bagseed btw.

And once again someone buys tons of expensive shit, tons of nutrients, pours it all onto his plants on a soil grow and burns the flying fuck out of them. It never ends.

fox farm is an entry level line , It's fucking garbage and apparently its not so well for you now, the plant is deep into a lockout and threw all kinds of flags alerting you but you didnt notice. some strains are more sensitive then others, being an unknown its impossible to even begin to make an assertion as to it being the lineup or the strain... but being that line i'd bet safe and say the nutrients..... I rarely smoke anymore but you could fire up a joint and just by the smell i could tell if its grown with it or not..... Best of luck on the next one.....

Budget Buds said:

fox farm is an entry level line , It's fucking garbage and apparently its not so well for you now, the plant is deep into a lockout and threw all kinds of flags alerting you but you didnt notice. some strains are more sensitive then others, being an unknown its impossible to even begin to make an assertion as to it being the lineup or the strain... but being that line i'd bet safe and say the nutrients..... I rarely smoke anymore but you could fire up a joint and just by the smell i could tell if its grown with it or not..... Best of luck on the next one.....

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Just wondering...what do you suppose this so-called 'garbage' nutrient is locking out? A person who can grow well, can grow with dollar store nutrients! What exactly is being locked out according to you?

TacoMac said:

And once again someone buys tons of expensive shit, tons of nutrients, pours it all onto his plants on a soil grow and burns the flying fuck out of them. It never ends.

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Burning them? he has been doing nothing but flushing and barely feeding? What nutrient is causing so-called burns that you see?
Seems many people posting biases here...im curious..people are making bold statements..at least be accurate and back that statement up with actual evidence...what element according to you is causing this burn? The other poster...what element is being locked out? Seems people just throw major assumptions around when there is no evidence at all to support such claims!

My vote is that the op over watered his plants at some point maybe with alot of nutrients in it and either burnt up his roots or drowned them and developed root issues either way, causing issues like a lack of potassium uptake or maybe he flushed all the nutes out of his medium causing the deficiency. The 100 watt led isn't much to grow with and that makes things slow down as far as vigorous growth. Thats why I think drowned roots. I would suggest to add an enzyme product once or twice and microbes, with proper watering as in not to much and coast it in to the chop.

TacoMac said:

And once again someone buys tons of expensive shit, tons of nutrients, pours it all onto his plants on a soil grow and burns the flying fuck out of them. It never ends.

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You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about. I’ve been giving them barely any nutes. You sound extremely ignorant. Tons of expensive shit? 35$ is expensive to you? I think it’s time for u to look for a better career.

Budget Buds said:

fox farm is an entry level line , It's fucking garbage and apparently its not so well for you now, the plant is deep into a lockout and threw all kinds of flags alerting you but you didnt notice. some strains are more sensitive then others, being an unknown its impossible to even begin to make an assertion as to it being the lineup or the strain... but being that line i'd bet safe and say the nutrients..... I rarely smoke anymore but you could fire up a joint and just by the smell i could tell if its grown with it or not..... Best of luck on the next one.....

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You’re very mistaken my plant is booming rn. I flushed lowered nutes and it’s thriving. Thanks for the attempt on good advice, but I think you shouldn’t say what you’re feeling unless you’re 100 percent, it makes it seem like you don’t know what you’re talking about. Maybe your bad experience made your feelings get in the way? Idk I will upload pics when I’m home.

Blitz35 said:

The other poster...what element is being locked out? Seems people just throw major assumptions around when there is no evidence at all to support such claims!

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Look at the pictures the OP posted and then look up cannabis nutrients problems pics via google, It's not an "major assumption" ..... It's a general diagnosis that is easily seen via pic comparisons ..... And no I'm not telling you exactly which one(s) it is...... That's the problem with these forums is that everybody just wants it spelled out cause they dont want to do the oh so hard work of reading 2 paragraphs and comparing a pic to another.... There are several people here saying the same general thing who have been here for years (2011 here) telling you whats up...
And P.S. elements dont cause lockout , PH is in control of that department..... The nutrients are just a visual sign of the symptom of the real problem, figure it out and work backwards to clear the real problem...... It's not that hard and I have faith

Leafylimbo said:

You’re very mistaken my plant is booming rn. I flushed lowered nutes and it’s thriving. Thanks for the attempt on good advice, but I think you shouldn’t say what you’re feeling unless you’re 100 percent, it makes it seem like you don’t know what you’re talking about. Maybe your bad experience made your feelings get in the way? Idk I will upload pics when I’m home.

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Ok, I am quite aware the plant is in bloom, you did provide pics remember ? My advice comes from experience , both personal and community via my local area which is ongoing and had been since before MMJ was legal in MI..... There were no "feelings" ascertained in my above statement , I don't know where you are getting that from unless I hit you're feel bads and in which case I'm sorry you're taking it that way. The plant threw flags before it got that bad for at least 2 weeks telling you that you needed to change something in it's diet and you either neglected to do anything about it .... Or you're ignorant to the signs which is totally ok as you have to learn somehow ...... Either way you're plant is too far gone in bloom to worry about it now, more hours to the dark schedule is doing nothing but further killing you're already depleted yield ... Keep using FF nutrients if ya want to after this grow , it's your grow after all lol