not quite sure what it is still/ PICS

i just posted these same plants yesterday. but i tranplanted and re aranged. and the symptoms have seemed to change. i thought it was phosphate defi. butt now its looking different. idk if wut i;m doing helped or if my diag. was wrong using 1/2 peatmoss 1/2 perlite 2 65w cfl blue and red. and 2 42 w cfl's. the problems started almost imediately after sprout. there 2 1/2 weeks old and i started watering with 15-30-15 at half strength. sense i thought it was phosphate. let me know what you guys think thanks. anything would be usfull

what perlight are you using

it's mirical grow perlite and now in the new pots its more like 2/3 peat moss 1/3 perlite

if you look mg perlight has time release nutes you've got nute burn ,its always better to start out at 1/4 strength to see how the plants will react to the feedings

so even though the problem started before i added nutes you think its nute burn?? and so am i killing my plants more by now adding nutes

mg perlight has nutes added check the bag

the bag says 0.04-0.04-0.06 but it does not say time release

robert 14617 said:

if you look mg perlight has time release nutes you've got nute burn ,its always better to start out at 1/4 strength to see how the plants will react to the feedings

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I second this. Flush with pH adjusted water for a couple of waterings and it will clear up. Like Robert said; Start back with 1/4 strength nutes.

Another small tip. I use the same cheapo thermometer you use. Disassemble that sucker and drill some holes in the plastic housing. This will improve the accuracy of it. The only vent those things have is a tiny hole behind the clip/stand. I did 2 side by side and got up to a 5 degree variable and 8% on RH.

it just comes out all at once then and burns your delicate roots

okay see i thought this too 3 of them do look like nute burn for sure. but idk if you could see in pics but 1 i dark green in middle of leaf and very light green all around the edge and that cant be nute burn. and i also wondering about the one that is curling up ward does nute burn cause this??

over watering will and the dark green may be nitrogen toxicity

nitro toxicity means to much right? lol sorry

grower001 said:

okay see i thought this too 3 of them do look like nute burn for sure. but idk if you could see in pics but 1 i dark green in middle of leaf and very light green all around the edge and that cant be nute burn. and i also wondering about the one that is curling up ward does nute burn cause this??

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Why can't the one be nute burn? Once it is effected by nute burn it can show in many other ways. If a plant suffers from too much nutrients it effectively shuts down intake and this can show as other deficiencies. Up curl tends not to be a sign of nute burn as much as under curl is. I would lean toward pH for that. Are you checking your runoff?

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okay see i thought this too 3 of them do look like nute burn for sure. but idk if you could see in pics but 1 i dark green in middle of leaf and very light green all around the edge and that cant be nute burn. and i also wondering about the one that is curling up ward does nute burn cause this??

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Have you checked your runoff ph? What looks like a deficiency can often be caused by nute lockout.

yes too much

also for next time. what soil should i use at first in order not to burn them. and how big or old should i let them get before i put them in my perlite and peatmoss mix. i'm trying to get this down because these are just blueberry bag seeds. but i baught a seed online for $10 just for one seed so i dont want to mess that one up so i can use for mom for clones

run off from the drainage holes?? and no i've never checked it and i now started to water from the bottom of the pot. and the ph of my water and soil is at 7 if my ph meter is right

Nitrogen Toxicity:
Leaves are often dark green and in the early stages abundant with foliage. If excess is severe, leaves will dry and begin to fall off. Root system will remain under developed or deteriorate after time. Fruit and flower set will be inhibited or deformed.
With breakdown of vascular tissue restricting water uptake. Stress resistance is drastically diminished.
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the mix and timing were fine just check the labels for nutes no nutes for the first few weeks

nute burn mos def.... shitty im using MG Perlite too which means I'll have to flush the Perlite before i mix it into my soil! thank god i came across mthis thread! thanks guys!

well im glad my misfortune helped you out sunnkissedbuds. haha. to bad you didnt start your grow before me. than i'd be the other way around haha