Northeast outdoors

Hey all, I live up in the north east, beautiful New England where currently is 5 feet of snow outside. Besides that fact, I plan to make and outdoor grow and am inquiring in order to prepare for a least stressful and successful grow op. At when can a plant go out into the great outdoors , and if I start them indoors under a hid will the shock turn them right to flower, hands down beginner so tell me off if I sound dumb, I just want to know how I could start some girls indoors then move them outside into 5 gallon buckets, at what point and any suggestion greatly appreciated in advance. Thank ya
 

nomofatum

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By the time it's warm enough outside for them to survive the day lengths will be at least 13 1/2 hours where you are. That is the middle of April, so by the time you put them outside you won't have to worry about day length until fall. 5 gallons will be way too small unless it's an auto. I would plan on transplanting into the ground and amending the soil where you do this. Some people just drill holes in the bucket when they transplant so the roots can get out.
 
Thanks man, I have actually seen some nice plants grown in 5 gallons, but I see what your saying obviously the more room for roots the bigger it will get. Do you have a personal preference of soil or amendments to the soil and when preparing the soil how big of an area should I turn over and how deep? Will I need to sift for rocks?
 

nomofatum

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Thanks man, I have actually seen some nice plants grown in 5 gallons, but I see what your saying obviously the more room for roots the bigger it will get. Do you have a personal preference of soil or amendments to the soil and when preparing the soil how big of an area should I turn over and how deep? Will I need to sift for rocks?
Well, that depends on the soil you start with and how much you want to feed it via nutes vs soil.

At least get drainage/moisture retention and O2 content under control with peat, vermiculite, perlite. Then you can also add composts and other additives if you want to reduce the nute needs or go totally organic.

The problem with 5 gallons is they will be root bound long before flower is over, at least with most strains. They get big with 4+ months of veg time under the sun.
 

edolt

New Member
If you have a chance to start multiple seeds indoors, you also have a chance to find each plants critical dark time. I used to take clones and slowly decrease their light cycle until sexed. Then you know u got a girl, and u know when to expect flowering. I always shot for plants that flowered in 15 or more hours of daylight. Saves a lot of grief. I live in the way north, where its just too easy to grow a monster full of leaves that only sees one week of flower before the killing frosts come in September. So this method works great for me.
 
I've tried outdoors once but when the hole I dug and when I mixed the soil up and put it back it just sunk in more as time went on and poor drainage cause over watering. How do you find the critical dark time with indoors?
 

nomofatum

Well-Known Member
Check out RCMC or Peak Seeds BC. They have seeds breed to finish in Canada. I'm just starting outdoors and I got a few for breeding and a few for just growing outdoors, also got High Rise auto mix pack to play with outdoors for extra early harvest.
 

edolt

New Member
You could incrementally add darkness to a veg cycle and watch your clones. Just keep notes on where your timer was for each clone when it showed sex. Some folks subtract two weeks and mark that as the time. I just start at 16/8 and wait a week or two, then knock it back. But I'm working with known early genetics. May have to start at 14/10 with store bought seeds. Either way, it may not be worth the work if you have a later frost date like anytime in October. Your options are much greater if that's the case.......​
 
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