Northeast Outdoor ; 20 gal pots in Greenhouse vs straight in ground?

timbo666

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Allow me to start off by saying the area is sitting on an acre backyard, with plenty and plenty of direct sunlight all day... I'm just asking this question strictly for yield concerns (we're looking for max)

The seedlings were started early may, are approx 3 weeks old, 6 inches, on their 5th set of leaves in 5x5 inch square starters. They should get root bound within the next 2 weeks, and my concern is where to put them for their final homes.

I'm a little torn between a decision to dig straight holes in my greenhouse. The reason why we decided greenhouse is to try and battle the bug issue as well as we can ; the area has a slight bug problem and due to previous seasons with bud worm issues, we decided it was the best bet to keep the ladies enclosed. I've used this greenhouse previous seasons, i'll be buying it new again, due to the 2 i used last season being taken.

The dimensions are 20ft long x 10 ft wd . 10ft height.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Spring-Gardener-Gable-10-ft-W-x-20-ft-L-x-9-ft-H-Greenhouse-IS-71020/202197235

The previous season I utilized two of these next to each other, and since i was curious, one of them were straight planted in the ground by digging about 2x2 ft holes filled with ocean forest, and they loved the native soil. ( But this spot last season was about 10 miles east of this one. )

The other greenhouse were twelve 20 gal smart pots, and I did notice some significant difference between the inground vs the pots. The ones grown in the smartpots mostly grew stretchier, lankier, but were still pretty sturdy. The ones planted in the ground were monsters, bushy, but almost were a little too close to each other.. i had 12 holes dug , 4 rows of 3 about 2.5 feet apart or so. (not entirely sure if that was enough) perhaps it was a little overcrowded. the strains in the smartpots were also all of the same strain but different than the strain grown in the greenhouse that were planted in ground directly, so perhaps the growth had somewhat to do with that. They all did really nice, but never got around to comparing yields from either house due to them being taken.. =(

Anyway.. I don't want to do a disservice to myself this time around - because a lot of money were invested in fem beans, and some really good strains were grabbed this time around. Last year were just clones , good ones - but only 2 diff strains. This year I grabbed up some HSO blue dreams, G13 pineapple express, G13 Blue Ogs, DNA headband, DNA strawberry banana, and various freebies. I wouldn't want to spend the extra money to go with the smart pots - if my buddies native soil will be as good (its hard to tell .. its a little dry, but its a standard backyard with natural shrubbery and bushes doing ok in its surroundings).

For the unknown territory of the soil should I stick with the 20 gal smartpots for this greenhouse? Or should i take the chance and dig the same holes? Does is even matter? (yield wise)? I mean, i know its a silly question because its obvious.. more space, more roots, bigger plant. Im just worried about the native soil a little bit. And would anybody with some greenhouse experience recommend the proper spacing for a greenhouse of those dimensions? Especially if i went with the holes?

I appreciate in advance for all the input. I'm just trying to make the right decision for the ladies!!
 

Cuttdogg7

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Allow me to start off by saying the area is sitting on an acre backyard, with plenty and plenty of direct sunlight all day... I'm just asking this question strictly for yield concerns (we're looking for max)

The seedlings were started early may, are approx 3 weeks old, 6 inches, on their 5th set of leaves in 5x5 inch square starters. They should get root bound within the next 2 weeks, and my concern is where to put them for their final homes.

I'm a little torn between a decision to dig straight holes in my greenhouse. The reason why we decided greenhouse is to try and battle the bug issue as well as we can ; the area has a slight bug problem and due to previous seasons with bud worm issues, we decided it was the best bet to keep the ladies enclosed. I've used this greenhouse previous seasons, i'll be buying it new again, due to the 2 i used last season being taken.

The dimensions are 20ft long x 10 ft wd . 10ft height.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Spring-Gardener-Gable-10-ft-W-x-20-ft-L-x-9-ft-H-Greenhouse-IS-71020/202197235

The previous season I utilized two of these next to each other, and since i was curious, one of them were straight planted in the ground by digging about 2x2 ft holes filled with ocean forest, and they loved the native soil. ( But this spot last season was about 10 miles east of this one. )

The other greenhouse were twelve 20 gal smart pots, and I did notice some significant difference between the inground vs the pots. The ones grown in the smartpots mostly grew stretchier, lankier, but were still pretty sturdy. The ones planted in the ground were monsters, bushy, but almost were a little too close to each other.. i had 12 holes dug , 4 rows of 3 about 2.5 feet apart or so. (not entirely sure if that was enough) perhaps it was a little overcrowded. the strains in the smartpots were also all of the same strain but different than the strain grown in the greenhouse that were planted in ground directly, so perhaps the growth had somewhat to do with that. They all did really nice, but never got around to comparing yields from either house due to them being taken.. =(

Anyway.. I don't want to do a disservice to myself this time around - because a lot of money were invested in fem beans, and some really good strains were grabbed this time around. Last year were just clones , good ones - but only 2 diff strains. This year I grabbed up some HSO blue dreams, G13 pineapple express, G13 Blue Ogs, DNA headband, DNA strawberry banana, and various freebies. I wouldn't want to spend the extra money to go with the smart pots - if my buddies native soil will be as good (its hard to tell .. its a little dry, but its a standard backyard with natural shrubbery and bushes doing ok in its surroundings).

For the unknown territory of the soil should I stick with the 20 gal smartpots for this greenhouse? Or should i take the chance and dig the same holes? Does is even matter? (yield wise)? I mean, i know its a silly question because its obvious.. more space, more roots, bigger plant. Im just worried about the native soil a little bit. And would anybody with some greenhouse experience recommend the proper spacing for a greenhouse of those dimensions? Especially if i went with the holes?

I appreciate in advance for all the input. I'm just trying to make the right decision for the ladies!!
You pretty much answered your own question on whether or not to use the pots or to plant directly in the ground for sure the plants are going to have more root space and will be able to grow larger planting in either large boxes or planting directly in the ground. How many plants you can fit in a 10 x 20 greenhouse will be determined on how large you are going to allow these plants to get. I also cover my plants in the fall, I don't have them covered all season. I try to allow my plants to grow as large as they can be, so I grow in large boxes that are deep and open to the ground underneath (pic below) I personally can only fit three plants in a 10 x 20 greenhouse to ensure that no foliage ever touches the sides or top of the greenhouse. You most certainly could fit more plants than that but you would have to keep them smaller.
 
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