Nirvana's Jock Horror and Bubblicious CFL grow

Tokeroo

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So I got my new 16GB class 10 microsd card in, phone recognized it and let me take pics. Went to charge my phone and pull the pics off, and it said it can't find an sd card. I'm so fucking pissed right now. Two cards this stupid phone has apparently bricked. PC won't recognize either of them.

Anyhow, I chopped the other plant(s) and trimmed them last night. Maybe pics eventually....
 

Tokeroo

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OK nabbed the point and shoot camera and got a few pics. Sorry for the quality on the harvest shots. It doesn't do well in dimmer lighting.

The colas really do look bigger in person - they don't look impressive at all in the pics. But, it's my biggest harvest to date. Not bad for CFLs and having a myriad of issues.

Bubblicious is still looking bad. I am almost certain I have root rot, probably exacerbated by the bugs. I will probably let her dry out almost and then flush her with one more dose of spectracide. Not sure if there is anything I can do to "cure" the root rot though. I will have to put up a pic or two of her rootball once the soil dries some.

JH is looking good, despite the yellowing. I will be taking some more clones soon.

LSD is looking really weird. Bright yellow/green. One of it's first true leaves was stunted. Anyone else grown this strain (Barney's Farm)?

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lilmiggy2009

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What are the temps in your grow right now? I saw that you said around 90+ earlier in the thread but I wasn't sure if that has changed now. I know a lot of plants start to get really stressed whenever the temp's reach over 90+. A lot of people tend to agree that between 75-85 are good temp's but thats just what I've seen success with on these threads. You don't want them to be over-stressed or you wont have as high of yield's.
 

lilmiggy2009

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Thats not bad at all you can work with those temp's. My closet is getting warmer due to the good weather coming in. I have a mini heater in there right now regulating the temp for when the lights go off 20 hours on 4 hours off. I am actually thinking about doing a Nirvana Bubblegum strain for my next grow which will be in a couple of weeks so Its nice to see how yours were doing. Eventually I am going to have an AC in my room in order to regulate the temps in the summer havent gotten to that point though it should be interesting. Keep up the nice work here + rep + sub
 

Tokeroo

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Well, I made a spur of the moment decision. I killed Bubblicious. :(

But she lives on through the clones I took of her :) I have several running right now, along with a few new clones from JH#1

I should be transplanting the first Bubblicious clone in a day or two, she will become the new mom.
 

lilmiggy2009

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Well I would love to see how they turn out =D because I am really excited I cant wait till I get those seeds in the mail.
 

Tokeroo

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Well, I did some reconfiguring. I placed JH#1 into flowering on the 18th. the temps in this chamber we sitting at 95+ with only this plant and all the lights on. In my other grow, this chamber sat at a near constant 84 with two plants. I added a second exhaust fan, and the temps are sitting around 91 with one of the lights unscrewed.

Now the veg chamber only has a few plants - the new Bubblelicious mom, LSD #1 and the first two clones from JH#1 - one of which I just transplanted. She will be the new JH#1 mom. I added a second exhaust in this one as well, and temps are sitting at 88-89 with all the lights on.

I don't get it - why are my temps so damn high?

Anyhow, all the new clones are rooting (6 Bbl and 3 JH). Should be moving them all into veg soon, and probably toss a few directly into flower once they show a little growth.

The LSD#1 is responding to the feeding and greening up.

Gave the BBL#1 clone a watering with some spectracide, as I saw a few little bugs - and see a few more that survived. I am so over these damn things. One more watering with spectracide I guess. Got pics taken, just have to transfer them to pc.
 

Tokeroo

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Just ordered a Glow Panel 45 for flower. It's such a small chamber, this light might just be perfect - and it will help my temp issues, in the flower chamber anyhow. I will probably look at using a cfl or two as supplemental lighting as well, as I don't expect this panel to have major canopy pentration. But since I am LSTing or party-cupping everything, it should be fine. Should be in and installed tomorrow. :)
 

lilmiggy2009

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Still looking like everything is going alright. All I can say about the temp is to find other means of cooling down your area. I just know that usually +90 stresses the plants which low stress isnt always bad but you dont want long term problems or any watering problems because will the higher temps and low humidity you will have to water more.
 

Tokeroo

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Alright, so I decided to try LED for flowering. I went with one of the cheaper lights, mainly because my flower box is so small. I am going to see how this one does and then adjust my setup with either a stronger LED or supplemental lighting. The BIGGEST reason for me to switch to LED is because of the temp issues I have.

Right now in the house, the thermostat is off, house is 69, but the room the plants are in is probably 5-6 degrees higher, and the closet a few degrees higher still. Flower box is steady at around 76! Finally have flower temperatures that are within a normal, ideal range.

I am considering switching veg over to LED also, for temp reasons. I figure this one Glow Panel 45 (28w draw - it's tiny compared to some of the others) would be plenty for veg, in my small veg chamber.

A few pics - the 82 degrees you see is because I took the pic about 30 mins after installing the light. 30 mins and the temp had already dropped 5 degrees :)

Now, we shall see how this performs wrt to budding!

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Tokeroo

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And here's some more pics from today
You can see LSD is greening up after a shot of nutes. Last watering was spectracide I think, might dose it one more time with nutes. It's almost a month old, and this is how runty it is. sheesh.

The new BBL mom isn't looking so hot. She looked great until the last day or so. She's transplanted, and was dosed with spectracide last night - hoping she recovers - but we shall see.

The new JH mom is doing well.

Got a few seeds germming in the cloner. One Dinafem Blue Hash (quick flowering, hope this one sprouts!) and three Seedsman Seeds Purple Bud.

Also got a few bagseeds to pop. In the pic, the one on the left almost died. I was able to get her to recover and sprout though.

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Tokeroo

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4/24 - transplanted 5 of the 6 Bubblelicious clones and stuck two directly into flower - the rest are in veg and will veg for about a week or two and I will toss two more into flower. Jock Horror clones are not showing roots yet.

Jock Horror #1 is looking happy, despite the current yellowing. I noticed the JH Clone is bending a little towards the light, but not stretching.

BBL#1 mom is looking rough. Maybe this is just a runty pheno, or maybe I'm just a noob. I foliar fed her today with some nutes, and same for the LSD. I don't know what's going on with this thing, it's now showing dark spots. Just fed her again late yesterday I think.

Purple Bud #1 has sprouted (you can see it in the dome shot above. I transplanted today into a party cup and stuck in veg.
 

lilmiggy2009

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Glad to see you have your temps under control now. That can really be key...I hope that your other one does recover maybe you should stop using nutrients on it until it bounces back? how much do you water them? could be over-watering. Stick your finger in your soil about 1-3 inches deep...if its wet don't water...if dry then water them. Thats how I go on about it
 

Tokeroo

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Thanks Miggy. Well, the Bubblelicious I think is just a runty pheno. The original mom did this, now her clone is doing it. I think I have only fed this clone once, along with a foliar feeding. I did however dose it twice with spectracide. The droopiness seems to coincide with that this round, but the mom was already drooping/stunted by the time I dosed her with spectracide.

As for watering, I usually lift the pot to see if they need water. If I'm unsure (ie: pot is light, but not quite bone-dry light), I stick a finger down and if I feel any moisture, I wait to water at least 6-12 more hours.

I am determined to grow this bitch out though, so I am leaving her alone for a few days. She has plenty of water and she isn't drinking at all - the soil is staying moist/wet.

I will see how some of the other clones respond w/o spectracide to see if maybe that's the cause. The problem is, the MG Organic soil I am using is infested with bugs. The same bugs I have seen throughout my grows. Start off looking like little white lice or baby gnats that can't fly, then I end up with little "mosquitos" galore. The same Organic soil was used to start our veggies and the kitchen is crawling with these damn bugs where I am keeping the jiffy pots.
 

Tokeroo

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Some updated pics!

JH#1 in flower looks to be stabilizing. The yellowing/brown spots seemed to have stopped - but not going away - and not that I really expect them to. A few tips are yellowing/browning and may be indications of slight nute burn. I will take it easy with her on nutes for the next week.

JH#1 Clone 1- the new Jock Horror mom. She is growing just like the plant she came from, as expected. She's like a peen with a 70's bush around it, all the way up. She has some weird leaf formations, but I have seen other people mentioning this from Jack Herer, and I want to say it may come from the Skunk side? The leaves grow all lumpy, and twisted and then straighten out, or "grow out of it". Notice the original JH#1 in flower doesn't exhibit this as much, her leaves have straightened, but their are still real tight together. Notice the node spacing on JH#1 clone 1 (the new mom)? The original was a bitch and a half to top because it's so damn thick. Suppose this is a Indica trait?

LSD #1 is looking rough. She greened up after the first shot of nutes, then plateaued, so I gave her another shot. Now she's not looking so hot. Dark black like spots forming on the margins. Almost looks like late P def, but really? With two feedings that close?

Finally got a Purple Bud to sprout!

Bubblelicious #1 Clone 1 is still looking sick as hell. I wonder, I did just transplant her before she really looked bad. Could this be stress from that?

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lilmiggy2009

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Glad to hear they're starting to recover. Well as long as you dont keep spraying your plants with that stuff I'm sure they will be fine. I wouldn't spray it too much because I'm sure those chemical's aren't exactly safe to smoke if your plants some how retain those chemicals through out the whole grow and end up in your bud. Nirvana also has soil tablets as well which help your plants in the veg period, I didnt need those because FoxFarm soil has 30 days of nutrients in it so I just bought the flowering tablets. I'm a newb to all this as well since I only have this current grow under my belt but those tablets can help anyone. You should check them out
 

Tokeroo

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Some more pics from yesterday. BBL#1 is a gonner. I think either this is a runt pheno, or I am just that newb at growing. I expected this at some point, as I still have a lot to learn. She seems like she has stopped taking up water, but she has to be taking up *some* or she would be dead. The pot stays wet for like a week. I am sure she is super stressed.

Anyhow, I ordered a new pH meter, and this one actually works. Here is what I found out: my tap water is currently pHing high, 7.5-7.6. However, the lime I have added to the plants (and mixed in with some) is stabilizing most of the pH for the plants right at 7. I am still pHing my water down to around 6.5-6.8.

My "broken" pH meter also reads ppm and uS. ppm for my fert mix (remember, this is for soil) is only reading 260ppm, and that's a full dose of nutes. Is this low? Maybe I need to read how to calibrate the ppm meter? Tap water reads like 150 ppm. 1/2 dose nutes read ~240ppm.

JH#1 (the original) is showing some wicked rust spots. The progression so far seems to be: barely noticeable yellowing on the very tip of fan blades. Then dark rust spots appear in the MIDDLE of the leaf, then yellowing starts around those rust spots. Mg def? You can see it in the pics of the bigger flowering JH#1.

Pics are day 12 of flower for JH#1 and like day 9-10 of flower for JH#1 clone. I think the two BBLs have only been in there for about 5-6 days or so.

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