There stealth is better than some and not as good as others, but for their seeds I would rather get from them than other bank cause logic would lead one to think they would have the most fresh seeds. I ordered some AK48 and Afghan, germed 3 of each, afghans germed in under 12 hours, all the AK48 germed in under 32 hours. They are all growing pretty good, stretched some under the CFLs I had but they have been under a 400w MH for a few days and you can really tell the difference.